Olympus OM-D E-M5, E-M1, E-M10 - Mk1, Mk2 & Mk3 Owners Thread

Couple from my new kit in the wind and rain :eek:, one from each lens to test them,SOOC jpeg

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mikew said:
Couple from my new kit in the wind and rain :eek:, one from each lens to test them,SOOC jpeg

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Nice shots Mike. Have you tried shooting through a rainy window yet. I find on mine in AF mode it's very difficult to get it to focus in the distance - the camera always tries to focus on the window. My GX80 seems to work out which I want to focus on much easier and chooses the distance in preference. I realise that I can choose if using MF but just don't understand why the Panasonic GX80 and the EM10 mk11 should be so different.
 
hillwalkinggirl said:
Nice shots Mike. Have you tried shooting through a rainy window yet. I find on mine in AF mode it's very difficult to get it to focus in the distance - the camera always tries to focus on the window. My GX80 seems to work out which I want to focus on much easier and chooses the distance in preference. I realise that I can choose if using MF but just don't understand why the Panasonic GX80 and the EM10 mk11 should be so different.
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Thanks not tried much yet, when i had one before the focusing was great, i could do birds in flight and all sorts but i had the Panasonic 100-400 and the focus motor was very fast, i dont think it will perform any where near as well with these lenses.
 
akr said:
Thanks Alf - that's really helpful. I did start doing the rocking back and forth technique for focus in the end as but still lots to learn. Have headed over to the macro section for some further reading up.
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Al if you try the rocking technique with the standard half shutter press for the AF in an AF mode you will be constantly fighting the AF.
 
alfbranch said:
Al if you try the rocking technique with the standard half shutter press for the AF in an AF mode you will be constantly fighting the AF.
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Thanks - I was in MF for the rocking technique - have tried the AF and with windy conditions it's no help!
 
Hey all,

I've been stalking this thread (and forum) for a little while, and I'm looking for a smaller replacement for Canon 550D which I plan to trade in. The E-M10 has come up on my radar and seems like a nice step up in tech while also downsizing my gear at the same time. There's been several getaways I've been on recently where my camera has been too big and bulky to bring along regrettably.

Jessops have £50 off the 14-42 and 50-150mm kit with a free bag, seems like good value to me? Any thoughts?

https://www.jessops.com/p/olympus/o...silver-with-14-42mm-and-40-150mm-lenses-99226
 
Sarky said:
Hey all,

I've been stalking this thread (and forum) for a little while, and I'm looking for a smaller replacement for Canon 550D which I plan to trade in. The E-M10 has come up on my radar and seems like a nice step up in tech while also downsizing my gear at the same time. There's been several getaways I've been on recently where my camera has been too big and bulky to bring along regrettably.

Jessops have £50 off the 14-42 and 50-150mm kit with a free bag, seems like good value to me? Any thoughts?

https://www.jessops.com/p/olympus/o...silver-with-14-42mm-and-40-150mm-lenses-99226
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I think they've been extremely cheeky tbh as it's not the pancake 14-42mm, yet they're saying the RRP should be £619. Other stores have the kit with the pancake 14-42mm for £619. That being said, Jessops have that kit at £679 so it seems they're a bit over priced overall imo.

http://www.camerapricebuster.co.uk/...rk-II-Camera-with-14-42mm-and-40-150mm-lenses
 
Evening folks,
If anyone in here is thinking of shifting there E-M10 and 14-42 on to new pastures i have a wanted add in the classifieds.
Time to try M43 singe the Sony gave up the ghost.
 
Hi guys, bit of a decision to make. For birding and wildlife for max quality I currently use my Nikon D500 with either the 200-500 or 300mm F4 lenses (with converters if necessary). It's a great set up and has netting me some great images. However, I do love shooting with my much lighter Olympus OMD package (most especially my OMD EM1 MK II which I love), and It's much easier to carry around in a small day pack rather than my big backpack for the Nikon and lenses.

I have been toying with the idea for some time now of selling my Panasonic Leica DG Vario-Elmar 100-400mm F4.0-6.3 lens in favour of the Olympus 300mm F4 Pro lens (I already have the 1.4 converter for my 40-150 F2.8 pro). I know the Panasonic-Leica lens wins in terms of flexibility, but the F6.3 on the long end wide open (in the British winter when the birds are in shade), really does mean I'm usually pushing ISO3200-6400 to get a shutter speed fast enough to freeze bird movement (say 1/250 sec). I know the Panasonic lens is really sharp, but the added stop on the 300mm f4 (albeit shorter F/L) intrigues me and I was wondering if anyone had compared the two and more specifically against an APS-C camera (like my D500) and can comment on whether it's worth bothering, or should I just stick with APS-C for my birding ? I've heard really good things about the 300mm F4 and was wondering if it was everything it was cracked up to be ?
 
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Sootchucker said:
Hi guys, bit of a decision to make. For birding and wildlife for max quality I currently use my Nikon D500 with either the 200-500 or 300mm F4 lenses (with converters if necessary). It's a great set up and has netting me some great images. However, I do love shooting with my much lighter Olympus OMD package (most especially my OMD EM1 MK II which I love), and It's much easier to carry around in a small day pack rather than my big backpack for the Nikon and lenses.

I have been toying with the idea for some time now of selling my Panasonic Leica DG Vario-Elmar 100-400mm F4.0-6.3 lens in favour of the Olympus 300mm F4 Pro lens (I already have the 1.4 converter for my 40-150 F2.8 pro). I know the Panasonic-Leica lens wins in terms of flexibility, but the F6.3 on the long end wide open (in the British winter when the birds are in shade), really does mean I'm usually pushing ISO3200-6400 to get a shutter speed fast enough to freeze bird movement (say 1/250 sec). I know the Panasonic lens is really sharp, but the added stop on the 300mm f4 (albeit shorter F/L) intrigues me and I was wondering if anyone had compared the two and more specifically against an APS-C camera (like my D500) and can comment on whether it's worth bothering, or should I just stick with APS-C for my birding ? I've heard really good things about the 300mm F4 and was wondering if it was everything it was cracked up to be ?
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Can you not try it on the Olympus test and wow scheme or whatever it's called?
 
Good point Snerkler - never thought of that !
 
Sootchucker said:
Hi guys, bit of a decision to make. For birding and wildlife for max quality I currently use my Nikon D500 with either the 200-500 or 300mm F4 lenses (with converters if necessary). It's a great set up and has netting me some great images. However, I do love shooting with my much lighter Olympus OMD package (most especially my OMD EM1 MK II which I love), and It's much easier to carry around in a small day pack rather than my big backpack for the Nikon and lenses.

I have been toying with the idea for some time now of selling my Panasonic Leica DG Vario-Elmar 100-400mm F4.0-6.3 lens in favour of the Olympus 300mm F4 Pro lens (I already have the 1.4 converter for my 40-150 F2.8 pro). I know the Panasonic-Leica lens wins in terms of flexibility, but the F6.3 on the long end wide open (in the British winter when the birds are in shade), really does mean I'm usually pushing ISO3200-6400 to get a shutter speed fast enough to freeze bird movement (say 1/250 sec). I know the Panasonic lens is really sharp, but the added stop on the 300mm f4 (albeit shorter F/L) intrigues me and I was wondering if anyone had compared the two and more specifically against an APS-C camera (like my D500) and can comment on whether it's worth bothering, or should I just stick with APS-C for my birding ? I've heard really good things about the 300mm F4 and was wondering if it was everything it was cracked up to be ?
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FWIW I had a play with the 300/4 on an E-M1 mk2 at the bird fair in August and was well impressed. I was at the Park cameras stand buying a Fuji 100-400 at the time, and it really made me wonder if I should be buying the Oly kit instead :)
 
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The 300f4 IS all its cracked up to be. I have it as well as the PL100-400. My problem is that my D500 and 80-400 definately outperforms my Em1ii setup when it comes to the autofocus (tracking) and this has left me a bit in limbo as I was expecting to sell off the Nikon kit but I keep thinking that if I sell it I will soon be wanting to buy it back..... perhaps if I stop the bird photography things will get more simple.:(
 
Just had an email from Olympus announcing the new 17mm f1.2 and 45mm f1.2 lenses. Great additions to the Olympus line up but my only issue with these f1.2 lenses are the size and weight of them. I feel that they're having to create these f1.2 lenses to try and compete with the bokeh and shallow DOF of DSLR's but you're still only getting roughly the same DOF as f2.4 on FF. So you could get an f1.8 lens for FF that would not only give you shallower DOF, will be lighter and a lot cheaper :(
 
I don't get the obsession with ultra shallow DOF in general. It's all some photographers ever harp on about when discussing lenses. It's nice to have creamy 'bokeh' now and then, but I don't find any difference when viewing say, a portrait shot at 1.2 or one at 1.4, and often prefer more of a sense of backdrop in F2 - 2.8 portraits where at least the full face is in focus. These bokeh addicts going off out into the woods to shoot portraits at f/1.2, when they'd get the same backdrop effect in their back garden :D I see it more and more now I've begun looking into M43, every bloody topic or comment section M43 related is all "Jeez, loike, OMGeeeZ it's only a 5.6 in full frame terms! derp! and the noise at 3200 is like, totally unusable :crying:" [may or may not be an actual quote]

But, it's the generation where every nostril hair of their fav-bff-vlogster is sharper than a Japanese boning knife and the bokeh when they show off their lego starwars figures is shallower than Hal.
 
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GreenNinja67 said:
Derp? Pmsl
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"Derp is an expression associated with stupidity, much like the earlier forms of interjections like “duh” and “dur.” In image macros, the subject is typically portrayed with eyes that are pointed to each side and a caption that reads “DERP.” The words “herp” and “derp” are often used in rage comics to replace nondescript names or parts of conversation. "

:D
 
Cagey75 said:
I don't get the obsession with ultra shallow DOF in general. It's all some photographers ever harp on about when discussing lenses. It's nice to have creamy 'bokeh' now and then, but I don't find any difference when viewing say, a portrait shot at 1.2 or one at 1.4, and often prefer more of a sense of backdrop in F2 - 2.8 portraits where at least the full face is in focus. These bokeh addicts going off out into the woods to shoot portraits at f/1.2, when they'd get the same backdrop effect in their back garden :D I see it more and more now I've begun looking into M43, every bloody topic or comment section M43 related is all "Jeez, loike, OMGeeeZ it's only a 5.6 in full frame terms! derp! and the noise at 3200 is like, totally unusable :crying:" [may or may not be an actual quote]

But, it's the generation where every nostril hair of their fav-bff-vlogster is sharper than a Japanese boning knife and the bokeh when they show off their lego starwars figures is shallower than Hal.
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Yes. Many people get irrational ideas stuck in their heads. And seem unable to re-evaluate things and move on. This applies to lots of topics. Not just M43. Macs, PCs and software too.

TP has more than it's fair share of these. Who are often quite vocal. It's best to get into the habit of ignoring such posts.
 
ianp5a said:
Yes. Many people get irrational ideas stuck in their heads. And seem unable to re-evaluate things and move on. This applies to lots of topics. Not just M43. Macs, PCs and software too.

TP has more than it's fair share of these. Who are often quite vocal. It's best to get into the habit of ignoring such posts.
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I'm thinking more of youtube comment sections, not here. Every video I look up on M43 there's a mound of dumb comments about differences in apertures/dof/noise in comparison to full frame.
 
I used to get hung on sensor size, noise, DOF etc.

But my back said it's time to change and to change you need to compromise.

Am I selling massive prints / canvases all day every day?

Nope, I'm an amateur that has been lucky to sell a few shots in the past.

So I have high hopes of the EM5 mk2 and I shall try to get a chance to test it tonight.
 
Cagey75 said:
I don't get the obsession with ultra shallow DOF in general. It's all some photographers ever harp on about when discussing lenses. It's nice to have creamy 'bokeh' now and then, but I don't find any difference when viewing say, a portrait shot at 1.2 or one at 1.4, and often prefer more of a sense of backdrop in F2 - 2.8 portraits where at least the full face is in focus. These bokeh addicts going off out into the woods to shoot portraits at f/1.2, when they'd get the same backdrop effect in their back garden :D I see it more and more now I've begun looking into M43, every bloody topic or comment section M43 related is all "Jeez, loike, OMGeeeZ it's only a 5.6 in full frame terms! derp! and the noise at 3200 is like, totally unusable :crying:" [may or may not be an actual quote]

But, it's the generation where every nostril hair of their fav-bff-vlogster is sharper than a Japanese boning knife and the bokeh when they show off their lego starwars figures is shallower than Hal.
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Tbh I like shallow DOF for certain types of photography, and also the isolation it can give even when DOF might not be uber thin. However, you should buy the right tool for the job. Which brings me back to my earlier post.

Whilst these new lenses love superb the whole point of m4/3 for me is to be relatively compact and lightweight and so I don't get these new relatively heavy bulky primes. Obviously there's a market for them otherwise Olympus (and Panny Leica) wouldn't make them, but for me if I want a fast prime on my M4/3 I'm more than happy with my 45mm f1.8, which also suits the whole m4/3 ethos better imo.
 
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snerkler said:
Tbh I like shallow DOF for certain types of photography, and also the isolation it can give even when DOF might not be uber thin. However, you should buy the right tool for the job. Which brings me back to my earlier post.

Whilst these new lenses love superb the whole point of m4/3 for me is to be relatively compact and lightweight and so I don't get these new relatively heavy bulky primes. Obviously there's a market for them otherwise Olympus (and Panny Leica) wouldn't make them, but for me if I want a fast prime on my M4/3 I'm more than happy with my 45mm f1.8, which also suits the whole m4/3 ethos better imo.
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I saw an image of 3 upcoming 1.2 lenses somewhere? maybe one [25 I think?] isn't due till next year - but all 3 looked almost identical, they looked heavy and pretty beefy for M43. My first thought was - 'who will buy them?' - but there's obviously a market, or they wouldn't bother. Also, aren't these focal lengths more than generously covered already?

I like a 1.4 lens myself, but I'm not always using it to try achieve shallow DOF. And I know I could live without it.
 
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There's a market but at £1200 each ? No thanks. I love m43 but I agree with @snerkler that once the manufacturers go for shallow DoF lenses, they're too much money. 25mm f1.2 = ( roughly ) 35mm f1.8 on a crop. £1200 = £150.

Ok, I know that not exactly "fair" but the Pro lenses are silly money. The problem with such narrow DoF is that shots can easily be OOF. Not everyone is a portrait photographer and so wants / needs f1.2. If you shoot motorsport and do panning, quick lenses are a royal PiTA.
 
snerkler said:
I think they've been extremely cheeky tbh as it's not the pancake 14-42mm, yet they're saying the RRP should be £619. Other stores have the kit with the pancake 14-42mm for £619. That being said, Jessops have that kit at £679 so it seems they're a bit over priced overall imo.

http://www.camerapricebuster.co.uk/...rk-II-Camera-with-14-42mm-and-40-150mm-lenses
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Great spot cheers, it was sat in my basket while my missus actually encouraged me to press the buy button! I would've been one unhappy bunny if the non-pancake had showed up.

GreenNinja67 said:
That'll teach me to read it properly
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Likewise! Olympus do not make it too easy either to distinguish between the two lenses.

I'll keep looking and waiting to pull the trigger, the winter cashback deals should be just around the corner - along with Black Friday!
 
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