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So, what are you looking forward to this year? There are lots of rumoured releases in the pipeline. I have high hopes for the new XT6, I think that one is pretty much a given, but there is also speculation that Canon and Panasonic are due to release something new. I think a bit of a shake up is probably overdue, and sometimes it seems a long time coming. So, tell us what you are pinning your hopes on, and why.
 
Plain Nev said:
So, what are you looking forward to this year? There are lots of rumoured releases in the pipeline. I have high hopes for the new XT6, I think that one is pretty much a given, but there is also speculation that Canon and Panasonic are due to release something new. I think a bit of a shake up is probably overdue, and sometimes it seems a long time coming. So, tell us what you are pinning your hopes on, and why.
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Not so much looking forward as hoping that my two X-H1's continue to function. My understanding is that Fujifilm UK are no longer servicing that camera model.
 
A significant price drop on the RX-10v.
 
Viltrox were suppose to have announced MFT lenses this summer.
Hoping they will, liked them on Fuji, would be willing to give them a go on OM
 
Plain Nev said:
So, what are you looking forward to this year? There are lots of rumoured releases in the pipeline. I have high hopes for the new XT6, I think that one is pretty much a given, but there is also speculation that Canon and Panasonic are due to release something new. I think a bit of a shake up is probably overdue, and sometimes it seems a long time coming. So, tell us what you are pinning your hopes on, and why.
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The XT6 won't be much over the XT5 and has a ridiculous rumour price of £1950
 
I am interested in capturing photographs so I do not review new equipment until I am aware that there is something I cannot do that I want to.

Dave
 
I'm not especially waiting for anything, but as I enjoy using "rangefinder" style cameras (ie with an offset viewfinder), I'm certainly interested in seeing what the rumoured Nikon "compact" camera turns out to be.

As the rumours become more confident, it's looking like it might be a stills orientated Nikon ZR "with" a built-in offset viewfinder. And, unless Nikon mess it up, I could well be tempted by something like this: even if I don't need it.

I also suspect it's unlikely to offer enough to pull me away from my Zf, which, apart from the annoying articulating screen, is close to a perfect camera for me.
 
I'm pretty happy with my gear but I'd make changes to my A7cII so if a new camera comes out with those changes I'd buy one. I'd also like a couple of lenses but the chances of them coming along are remote.

BTW Graham. I assume you know that Sony make RF style mirrorless cameras :D

myotis said:
I'm not especially waiting for anything, but as I enjoy using "rangefinder" style cameras (ie with an offset viewfinder), I'm certainly interested in seeing what the rumoured Nikon "compact" camera turns out to be.
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Dave Canon said:
I am interested in capturing photographs so I do not review new equipment until I am aware that there is something I cannot do that I want to.

Dave
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I'm just a happy snapper but even I often push the boundaries of what the kit can do. Eye detect plus being able to focus accurately and consistently anywhere in the frame has been a revelation for me and I want more revelations. DR is still a limitation and I'd like better panorama features, a fully articulating and tilting and brighter screen and a faster mechanical shutter with automatic switching beteeen manual and electronic shutter depending upon the shot and conditions.

There's always room for technological improvement which gives us more and easier to access photographic opportunities.
 
woof woof said:
I'm pretty happy with my gear but I'd make changes to my A7cII so if a new camera comes out with those changes I'd buy one. I'd also like a couple of lenses but the chances of them coming along are remote.

BTW Graham. I assume you know that Sony make RF style mirrorless cameras :D
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Thanks.

I do indeed know about them, APS, FF, and fixed-lens models, as well as different sensor resolution options; over the years I've often looked at them.
 
myotis said:
Thanks.

I do indeed know about them, APS, FF, and fixed-lens models, as well as different sensor resolution options; over the years I've often looked at them.
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Despite some niggles and annoyances the Sony A7cII and 40mm f2.5 have come closest to being my ideal do it all setup.
 
woof woof said:
Despite some niggles and annoyances the Sony A7cII and 40mm f2.5 have come closest to being my ideal do it all setup.
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I can understand that, but...

I start from a biased position of having used Nikons for over 50 years, and although I've had Canons, Fujis, Olympus and Panasonics alongside my Nikons, whenever I have been in a position of buying a camera, the Sonys never seem to make it into my list of finalists.
 
myotis said:
I can understand that, but...

I start from a biased position of having used Nikons for over 50 years, and although I've had Canons, Fujis, Olympus and Panasonics alongside my Nikons, whenever I have been in a position of buying a camera, the Sonys never seem to make it into my list of finalists.
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I can understand you to an extent as I had a Nikon SLR for decades but I'm not loyal to any brand. If one of them was British I maybe would be to support British jobs and keep the tax revenue flowing but none of them are so why should I care if my kit is made in Thailand by Sony or Nikon or Vietnam by Canon?

I had Nikon for decades as Nikon was what the guy in the shop recommended at the time but when DSLR's came out I switched to Canon as they were the clear leaders. When MFT came out I bought that and when Sony brought out the A7 I bought one but not because I wanted a Sony but because they were the first to bring out a FF mirrorless.

It's just my own opinion but I do think finances allowing we should forget any notion of brand loyalty and buy what's best for us.
 
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woof woof said:
I can understand you to an extent as I had a Nikon SLR for decades but I'm not loyal to any brand. If one of them was British I maybe would be to support British jobs and keep the tax revenue flowing but none of them are so why should I care if my kit is made in Thailand by Sony or Nikon or Vietnam by Canon?

I has Nikon for decades as Nikon was what the guy in the shop recommended at the time but when DSLR's came out I switched to Canon as they were the clear leaders. When MFT came out I bought that and when Sony brought out the A7 I bought one but not because I wanted a Sony but because they were the first to bring out a FF mirrorless.

It's just my own opinion but I do think finances allowing we should forget any notion of brand loyalty and buy what's best for us.
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I'm not especially being loyal to Nikon.

The Canons, Fuji and Olympus were all bought with the view of replacing my Nikons, but in the end, the perceived benefits of switching brand didn't outweigh the disbenefits of moving from Nikon. So in my case I am just sticking with what has consistently shown itself to be the best brand for me.

Fortunately, I have been able to use other brands without getting rid of my Nikons. (not entirely true, I got rid of all my Nikon gear to get a Canon F1 back in the 1980s)
 
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myotis said:
I'm not especially waiting for anything, but as I enjoy using "rangefinder" style cameras (ie with an offset viewfinder), I'm certainly interested in seeing what the rumoured Nikon "compact" camera turns out to be.

As the rumours become more confident, it's looking like it might be a stills orientated Nikon ZR "with" a built-in offset viewfinder. And, unless Nikon mess it up, I could well be tempted by something like this: even if I don't need it.

I also suspect it's unlikely to offer enough to pull me away from my Zf, which, apart from the annoying articulating screen, is close to a perfect camera for me.
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I'm not familiar with that particular rumour, but that is something I'd like to see.
 
Plain Nev said:
I'm not familiar with that particular rumour, but that is something I'd like to see.
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There are several rumours floating about (from the better sources) of various options, so it could be almost anything that might be described as "compact",

The stills oriented Nikon ZR rumour was around before the "compact" rumour, and it isn't clear to me whether it's now part of the "compact" rumour ,which was meant to be a fixed lens body (without a viewfinder), or whether it's a totally different rumour. Either way, there might be one or two interesting Nikon bodies to look forward to.
 
myotis said:
I'm not especially being loyal to Nikon.

The Canons, Fuji and Olympus were all bought with the view of replacing my Nikons, but in the end, the perceived benefits of switching brand didn't outweigh the disbenefits of moving from Nikon. So in my case I am just sticking with what has consistently shown itself to be the best brand for me.
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Good but I'd always advise anyone drifting down the fanboy route to stop.
 
For a few years there were rumours of a Sony RX100 mark 8 which I was hoping (although not expecting) might arrive with a specific upgrade of a fully articulating screen instead of just the flip out screen. I also unrealistically wished for weather sealing as the cherry on the cake.
 
woof woof said:
Good but I'd always advise anyone drifting down the fanboy route to stop.
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I suspect that anyone drifting down the fanboy route doesn't realise they are doing it.

My recommendation is nearly always to just stick with the camera make you already have, unless there is an exceptionally good reason to switch. And there is hardly ever an exceptionally good reason to switch.
 
12 800 Black and White film with no grain.
 
myotis said:
I'm not especially waiting for anything, but as I enjoy using "rangefinder" style cameras (ie with an offset viewfinder), I'm certainly interested in seeing what the rumoured Nikon "compact" camera turns out to be.

As the rumours become more confident, it's looking like it might be a stills orientated Nikon ZR "with" a built-in offset viewfinder. And, unless Nikon mess it up, I could well be tempted by something like this: even if I don't need it.

I also suspect it's unlikely to offer enough to pull me away from my Zf, which, apart from the annoying articulating screen, is close to a perfect camera for me.
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That's what I'm hoping for as well. I've given a lot of consideration to a ZR but given it seems to have been quite popular with photographers I'm hoping that demonstrates there is a demand for a photo version of it rather than video.
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For a few years there were rumours of a Sony RX100 mark 8 which I was hoping (although not expecting) might arrive with a specific upgrade of a fully articulating screen instead of just the flip out screen. I also unrealistically wished for weather sealing as the cherry on the cake.
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I'm surprised they went with a new RX10 and not a new RX100. I know there's a place for the RX10 but I think there's definitely one for the RX100 since I bought a mk7 last year which I find to be a remarkably useful little camera. I had my doubts over whether the longer zoom was worth it over the faster shorter lens however it's what makes the camera extremely good as my phone camera is not bad at wide angle but the pocket sized RX100 just blows it out the window at telephoto ranges.
 
JohnMcL7 said:
That's what I'm hoping for as well. I've given a lot of consideration to a ZR but given it seems to have been quite popular with photographers I'm hoping that demonstrates there is a demand for a photo version of it rather than video.
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Ideally, I would like it to be a retro design based on the Nikon rangefinder cameras, which, although the Zf appears to have been a success for Nikon, might be too risky for them. But I also want some proper retro lenses from Nikon, that look the part and switch between AF and Manual focus like the Leica Q lens does, or through a clutch system like some of the Olympus lenses, and a proper aperture ring.

Maybe I ask for too much :-)
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I'm surprised they went with a new RX10 and not a new RX100. I know there's a place for the RX10 but I think there's definitely one for the RX100 since I bought a mk7 last year which I find to be a remarkably useful little camera. I had my doubts over whether the longer zoom was worth it over the faster shorter lens however it's what makes the camera extremely good as my phone camera is not bad at wide angle but the pocket sized RX100 just blows it out the window at telephoto ranges.
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myotis said:
Ideally, I would like it to be a retro design based on the Nikon rangefinder cameras, which, although the Zf appears to have been a success for Nikon, might be too risky for them. But I also want some proper retro lenses from Nikon, that look the part and switch between AF and Manual focus like the Leica Q lens does, or through a clutch system like some of the Olympus lenses, and a proper aperture ring.

Maybe I ask for too much :-)
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I think the success of the Zf and other similar retro style cameras would mean they're more likely to make another model designed that way more likely.
 
JohnMcL7 said:
I think the success of the Zf and other similar retro style cameras would mean they're more likely to make another model designed that way more likely.
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That would be nice, and of course I have no idea of the actual numbers, but I'm assuming that the market for a retro style body is likely to be smaller than the market for a compact "modern" styled body without the viewfinder hump, but with an offset viewfinder.

I would be happy with either.

Having said that, I think that if Nikon added to their full frame retro kit list, they could steal customers from Fuji.
 
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My Canon 500D does al I am capable of doing. Have never seen the need to upgrade.
 
I'm not really waiting for anything.

That's not to say that I won't be acquiring a new lens or body in the next year. But the decisions are based on my need at the time and how much I'm willing to pay. And those acquisitions would most likely be for existing already released products.
 
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