Why are people buying electric cars?

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At motorway speeds-70ish -my Honda is in 4K rpm territory, :eek: but I suppose having a 9k rev limit is a bonus, it’s my toy, on car club weekends it can see 15mpg. Better than I used to do, must be getting old.

Sounds like an S2000 or maybe an older Type-R?

I am finding myself slowly becoming less interested in cars, in particular performance. Roads are so busy and in recent years they seem to be inundated with God awful drivers (especially private hires) and the road surfaces are often too poor to enjoy, so what's the point. I'm looking to change soon into something more wafty to relax in.
 
Sounds like an S2000 or maybe an older Type-R?

I am finding myself slowly becoming less interested in cars, in particular performance. Roads are so busy and in recent years they seem to be inundated with God awful drivers (especially private hires) and the road surfaces are often too poor to enjoy, so what's the point. I'm looking to change soon into something more wafty to relax in.

In addition, the road signs now are getting more and more confusing and hidden amongst all the other signs and paraphernalia........I have no idea sometimes what the exact speed limit is. Earlier this week I had the mis fortune to drive into Hammersmith London.......after not driving there for maybe 20 years ..............the speed limit everywhere seems to be 20 mph ........I saw some signs but I did not realise it is almost a blanket 20 mph.........

The second week in September, 2 weeks after getting the new car I was "done" for doing 57 in a 50 ..........this was on a dual carriageway road driving into Winchester........I came off a single carriageway 60mph road which became a dual carriageway, I did not realise the speed limit changed to 50mph ...........apparently this happened a year ago presumably because it was thought necessary ........I missed seeing the new 50 mph sign, I assumed as it was a dual carriageway that it was 60 ..........I drove the same road later, the sign was there I just missed seeing it, so fair cop!!
 
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I managed to get a test drive of a VW ID7 finally. There's a lot I liked about it, from the outside its styling is quite subtle and understated which I think looks good and it feels quite special getting into it, with the minimal dashboard and decent sized HUD it felt more like getting into a shuttle from Star Trek. The spec was fantastic given it's the base model with blind spot monitoring (highly desirable for me), adaptive cruise, 360 degree cameras (which also showed a preview of the forward of the car when maneuvering through parked cars), seat massagers/heaters, heated steering wheel etc.

I didn't get a chance to get up to 60/70mph which was a real frustration but the car was really smooth to drive and with no gearbox there was never a feeling of being in the wrong gear. Something which appealed to me about the electric part is that it has 280bhp but without needing premium fuel or worrying about the turbocharger.

On the downsides though it's a big heavy car and really felt like it when driving it, my Mazda6 is on the big side for estates but the ID7 is even bigger and a good bit heavier. However it's smaller at the back than the Mazda, the boot entrance is smaller and it's down on capacity compared to the Mazda as well - I would have been fine with the bigger car for more space inside as the Mazda isn't great for capacity but not being bigger outside and smaller inside.

The dealbreaker for this particular car and perhaps inexperience with the dealer which wasn't a VW one was they had no record of the services, the current battery state of health (SOH) and no confirmation of the warranty either. I was shocked to find the servicing for this car is £400 a go although only every two years rather than one and this car is possibly due one, I see a lot of comments about how electric cars need less maintenance but this works out more than my annual services for my petrol car. The other issue with this car as with most of the original ID7's is that it doesn't have a heatpump although I still can't really work out how useful it is on this model, people are really split on it.

I found another ID7 which is a year newer when VW made the heatpump standard on the base model which suggests there is demand for it, this car is also from VW so had better documentation on its history (which admittedly there isn't yet) and not a huge amount more money. So I've been giving serious thought to his one although the possible repair issue is one of my biggest concerns, with a petrol/diesel car you mostly know where you are but with the electric cars while they generally seem reliable when they have problems they can be difficult to repair.

Handily I was also able to test drive an Octavia VRS with blind spot monitoring which is fairly rare. It immediately felt more agile and better to drive although beyond that I wasn't too taken with it, I'm not a fan of auto gearboxes and as usual this one didn't seem to really know what I was wanting to do with it. The throttle response for the 280bhp engine was pretty lackluster too, I think in both cases I'd need to set up driving modes to have the car respond as I wanted however it did put me off, my current car and my previous Octavia VRS drove well without needing any changes. The Octavia spec wasn't bad but it wasn't as good as the ID7 despite being a more expensive car second hand although I think the ID7 started off more expensive.

I do wonder as the market changes if electric car prices are going to climb as they become more popular making the ID7 a good buy at the moment as the depreciation to this point is horrific so if I bought one and didn't like it, I could potentially change to a petrol car later without losing out too much.

I'd decided it was time to get shot of the Mazda as it's feeling old these days at times especially at low speed when you can hear the suspension going over bumps. However after 5 hours of driving to see these cars and finding it drove much better than either of them, I'm starting to wonder if I'm being too hard on the Mazda. Its old 2.5 engine is quite thirsty and it's possibly due £1500 of repairs shortly but that's peanuts against the cost of even the cheaper ID7 I looked at. It's also huge inside with few estates that can beat it as I was reminded when putting big MTB in the back and it handled it easily.

I was out for a cycle this evening and chatting to a friend who has an EQB and was surprised I was interested in an electric car, he said he really missed his RAV4 as it felt bulletproof and he thought the hybrid drive gave the feel of the electric car but easy to keep refuelled. At the moment I'm feeling like hanging onto the Mazda for at least up to its MOT and assess it from there.

Service history is held on VWs servers and can be seen if you ask any dealer. It's also on the app if you are an owner which doesn't help you.
 
In addition, the road signs now are getting more and more confusing and hidden amongst all the other signs and paraphernalia........I have no idea sometimes what the exact speed limit is. Earlier this week I had the mis fortune to drive into Hammersmith London.......after not driving there for maybe 20 years ..............the speed limit everywhere seems to be 20 mph ........I saw some signs but I did not realise it is almost a blanket 20 mph.........

The second week in September, 2 weeks after getting the new car I was "done" for doing 57 in a 50 ..........this was on a dual carriageway road driving into Winchester........I came off a single carriageway 60mph road which became a dual carriageway, I did not realise the speed limit changed to 50mph ...........apparently this happened a year ago presumably because it was thought necessary ........I missed seeing the new 50 mph sign, I assumed as it was a dual carriageway that it was 60 ..........I drove the same road later, the sign was there I just missed seeing it, so fair cop!!

Similar happened to me on a recent trip to Wales, I forgot all about the 20mph and I'm sure I read it was all going back to 30mph, so wasn't looking out for it. It was easy to miss some of the 20mph signs because often the villages didn't look like villages, just a few houses at the side of the road and you'd be coming off a 60mph.
 
Sounds like an S2000 or maybe an older Type-R?

I am finding myself slowly becoming less interested in cars, in particular performance. Roads are so busy and in recent years they seem to be inundated with God awful drivers (especially private hires) and the road surfaces are often too poor to enjoy, so what's the point. I'm looking to change soon into something more wafty to relax in.
2009 S2000, luckily we live outwith big cities and can find ‘interesting’ roads within a mile of home, had a Range Rover from work and hated it, we don’t do ‘wafty’, we do fun or A to B in a CUV, one that still fits in parking spaces.
 
2009 S2000, luckily we live outwith big cities and can find ‘interesting’ roads within a mile of home, had a Range Rover from work and hated it, we don’t do ‘wafty’, we do fun or A to B in a CUV, one that still fits in parking spaces.

I always liked those S2000's, I mind seeing a YouTube video of someone who I think supercharged his. In my 20's I used supersport crotch rockets to get me around, you never really got the same rush from a car. Now I'm older, I'm happy to accept a lesser rush if it means avoiding being injured again! lol
 
I always liked those S2000's, I mind seeing a YouTube video of someone who I think supercharged his. In my 20's I used supersport crotch rockets to get me around, you never really got the same rush from a car. Now I'm older, I'm happy to accept a lesser rush if it means avoiding being injured again! lol
Yep, never fallen off my car, our last incident was when a bike rider attacked the passenger door on a motorway, guess he didn’t take a last look before changing lanes, so glad he stayed upright although he was very shaken when we reached the hard shoulder, he took one look at my wife who was close to tears or rage and kept the helmet on. Luckily we had a witness who stopped and the insurance fought my corner and we came out winners, most unusual in a 2 v 4 wheels incident nowadays.
We’re in the owners club a long time now and seen/tried some powerful S2s at club events, boss decided ours is fast enough thank you. :eek:
 
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At a car show back in the summer, 2 TVR owners were discussing the pros and cons of super versus turbochargers. The chap with the supercharger reckoned he had space to fit a turbo in as well as the supercharger!
 
At a car show back in the summer, 2 TVR owners were discussing the pros and cons of super versus turbochargers. The chap with the supercharger reckoned he had space to fit a turbo in as well as the supercharger!

This was done on the Lancia Delta S4, the use of a supercharger helped to elimiate turbo lag, and boosted performance at lower RPM, when higher RPM was reached the turbocharger became the dominant form of boost.

If you have plenty of power at low RPM (on a turbo charged engine) then the addition of a supercharger makes less sense, but in the early days of turbocharging it was common to lower the compression ratio, which in turn resulted in a loss of power at low RPM, so the principle of adding a supercharger becomes more viable. These days with turbocharged engines running at higher compression ratio's the off-boost/on-boost/lag issue is less important.

But the combination of a supercharger and a turbocharger in a TVR, esepcially if you added an anti-lag system would be quite exciting.

Mr Perceptive (an ex-multiple TVR owner)
 
"Exciting"! AKA "Exiting" the road? :P
 
I think it is Mercedes who uses a small electric motorattached to the turbocharger shaft to eliminate lag. Clever idea. Others might also do it, but it's Mercedes who rings a bell.

The XF I had used two turbos in a parallel sequential setup. It used a large viarable geometry one initially and then at around 2,800 rpm a smaller fixed geometry one would already be spinning up to match the large one for a seemless sync in to provide extra boost. It was apparently very innovative at the time.

I favour a supercharger over a turbo. Whilst it's not as fuel efficient, I find the linear power delivery more predictable and it tends to be more simple and reliable. But when it comes to lag, if it's an auto then I usually find transmission delays take away the advantage of a s/c anyway, during standard driving that is rather than sport or manual mode.
 
The XF I had used two turbos in a parallel sequential setup. It used a large viarable geometry one initially and then at around 2,800 rpm a smaller fixed geometry one would already be spinning up to match the large one for a seemless sync in to provide extra boost. It was apparently very innovative at the time.

Turbochargers in series can be even more exciting, use a small (faster) one to help spin air up into a larger (slower) one. Again another friend did this a Rover v8 powered 1970s TVR that he built for drag racing, the result was 650bhp and the ability to lift the front wheels on launch!!!
 
What about the Suzuki Hayabusa turbo: Exciting or scary? lol

I've read that modded ones can be over 700bhp. At ~260kg, that's a fair amount of horses per tonne. :oops: :$
 
My old Rocket III was around 150 BHP but with oodles (again, around 150 ftlbs) relatively low in the rev range. Arms were lengthened during enthusiastic acceleration! The lack of any sort of fairing kept any excesses short lived (but still fun!!!)
 
What about this lovely machine that can do wonders where EVs require attention. PS it runs on fossil fuel.
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