1D MarkIV+expansion points

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On my 7D if I use AF expansion points I can see them in the viewfinder. On my 1D although I have C.Fn III -8 2: enabled when using center point i can't see the surrounding points. So how do I know if they are active? Is there a way to switch from center point to expansion points.
Any help would be appreciated.

Dai
 
I've tried the same with mine and like you I can't see the surrounding points illuminated.
It seems though that enabling this function allows the camera to shift its focus from the central selected point to any of the surrounding 6 points should the subject move.
I saw this on another site:

One Selected Focus Point Expanded to Surrounding Points

A compromise between using all 45-points and using a single point is using a single focus point expanded to surrounding points via custom function III-8 (see below). This mode allows surrounding focus points to assist the selected focus point in achieving initial focus and also allows the camera to shift from the chosen point to any one of the six available surrounding points if the camera detects that the subject has moved from the selected point to one of those surrounding points. Similar to using all 45-points, initial focus must be locked in with the manually selected point to tell the camera on what it should be focusing, and, if the subject wanders beyond this smaller circle of surrounding points, focus will be lost. I like to use this option for much of my shooting because it gives me a bit of room for error if I am not successful in keeping the focus point on the subject. However, if the background is busy or if the subject is filling only a very tiny portion of the frame, this option can result in the surrounding points locking onto something other than the intended subject, and switching to a single focus point is likely to yield better results.

http://www.wildlifeimagesbyles.net/Technique/1DIV_focus_guide/1div_focus_guide.html

I hope this is what you mean. I sometimes feel the Mark IV Custom Functions merit an evening class course!
 
As far as I understand it you will not see the expansion points light up, as the expansion points are always actively assisting when required - the 'selected' AF point. The degree of expansion point assist will depend on what level you've selected in C.Fn III (8).

The only caveat I can think of and may have experienced myself is when you have C.Fn III (13) set to option 2 - AF point display on when focus achieved. Then, when the 'selected' AF point can't achieve focus and hands over to your selected assist group in C.Fn (8) which does then achieve focus, the assisting AF point will light up briefly denoting focus has been achieved.

On Canons CPN site, I found the below guide helped me start to get my head around the AF system and its customisation:

http://cpn.canon-europe.com/files/product/cameras/eos1d_mark_iv/1D_Mark_IV_guide_en.pdf

Hope that helps.
Sam
 
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