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I spotted this on the newsfeed . ...

www.bbc.co.uk

Remains of North Yorkshire WW2 pilot found during canal works

Sqn Ldr George Morley Fidler was shot down over France on 19 May 1940, historians say.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

It struck me that the legacy of, in this case WW2, both world wars still echoes down the century for those who don't have a burial place.
 
Box Brownie said:
It struck me that the legacy of, in this case WW2, both world wars still echoes down the century for those who don't have a burial place.
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It seems that there are still millions of victims of the fascist madness, who are buried in mass graves around the world.
 
As for religion...
 
Box Brownie said:
I spotted this on the newsfeed . ...

www.bbc.co.uk

Remains of North Yorkshire WW2 pilot found during canal works

Sqn Ldr George Morley Fidler was shot down over France on 19 May 1940, historians say.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

It struck me that the legacy of, in this case WW2, both world wars still echoes down the century for those who don't have a burial place.
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Like the merchant seamen, over 30.000 of them, without whom the war would have been lost, who are now almost completely forgotten.
 
Nod said:
As for religion...
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Thankfully some religions stopped killing en masse for religious reasons centuries ago. I've yet to encounter any acts of hate or hate speach at my local churches and at one there's even a room set aside for another organisation. Mostly what I see is genuinely positive with the only negatives being those brought by individuals with their own personal faults and failings as you get in any group of people.

Go to any church I've been to and ask for help with whatever troubles you have and I think you'll get it.
 
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AndrewFlannigan said:
It seems that there are still millions of victims of the fascist madness, who are buried in mass graves around the world.
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you always have to inject some hate into a comment, why do you feel you needed to add "fascist" to a perfectly decent thread from @Box Brownie and derail it onto your flight path?
 
Mr Bump said:
you always have to inject some hate into a comment, why do you feel you needed to add "fascist" to a perfectly decent thread from @Box Brownie and derail it onto your flight path?
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Because history shows that the Italian National Fascist Party influenced the Nazi party and a large part of the Japanese Meiji movement. As we are discussing a WW2 incident, I would have expected any normal person to recognise that my comment referred to that era.
 
AndrewFlannigan said:
Because history shows that the Italian National Fascist Party influenced the Nazi party and a large part of the Japanese Meiji movement. As we are discussing a WW2 incident, I would have expected any normal person to recognise that my comment referred to that era.
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you just derailed a very delicate story about a Yorkshire Airman , a man who's remains were lost for many years and have now been found.
A Yorkshire man as well, one of mine.

And the best you can do is drag it into the gutter.
 
Mr Bump said:
And the best you can do is drag it into the gutter.
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I did nothing of the kind, as any sane person must have realised.

I pointed out that he is just one of many millions of people who were tossed into unmarked graves for the crime of being different at the wrong time in the wrong place.
 
Not to want to add to the hate but the term Fascist was coined by Mussolini who was until WW1 a socialist. He later came to oppose both Marxism and Capitalism and headed off in a "third way." His manifesto is worth reading and I believe many people would vote for it today, it being full of workers rights, proletarian control of industries and services, reduction of the voting age and all that. Be careful if Googling as the AI may not always be completely accurate and impartial.

One story from history struck me and I still think about it when the dead are found and named. The story was about a family, a man, woman and child, who had been violently killed and thrown into a rubbish trench back in the days of Britons, Saxons and the rest. They showed evidence of malnutrition and then of an improved diet before death. The parents bore the marks of their death and the child had a hole in his skull which likely killed him. It was probably caused by being hit on the head with a shield, the boss causing the damage to his skull. That family will never be named and their story never fully told. Thankfully more recent bodies discovered are identified, treated with respect and their families informed.
 
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AndrewFlannigan said:
I did nothing of the kind, as any sane person must have realised.

I pointed out that he is just one of many millions of people who were tossed into unmarked graves for the crime of being different at the wrong time in the wrong place.
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To be honest it did seem a jarring comment, designed to take the thread in a particular direction, which it has somewhat done. I carefully chose not to respond.

Sometimes what we think and feel in our own heads isn't always carried over in the written word, and can be misunderstood.
 
ancient_mariner said:
To be honest it did seem a jarring comment, designed to take the thread in a particular direction, which it has somewhat done. I carefully chose not to respond.
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If the complaint had been couched in similar terms to what you have written, I would have replied in a more conciliatory manner. To be clear, I wasn't being dismissive of the pilot's death but drawing attention to how many other people across the world were the equally hidden victims of that war.
 
Whilst we rightly make attempts to find and identify those that died serving their country. We should also remember that those that died at sea have no such honour.
 
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