Am getting the Nikon f/1.8 50mm AF-D for my D7000

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And I have a totally noob question! :)

Do I have to select a particular aperture on the lens itself? Or will whatever I select on the D7000 override any setting on the lens?

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You'll prob need to physically lock the lens on its narrowest aperture (f22 or whatever).

After that the camera will tell the lens what aperture it want. Just like any other lens.
 
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There is a little orange switch that when f/22 is selected, can be toggled so to lock the aperture ring. Otherwise, an ERR message will appear on the screen. You can set some Nikon cameras to recognise the aperture ring as the control for the aperture, but it's an option that's not set by default (i think).
 
Just set the aperture to 22 on the lens and lock it. Then you can control aperture on your camera. Or go to setting for non CPU lens and programme f1.8 50mm to control aperture on your lens but I don't see the point to do that ......
 
There is no way I would set the aperture on the camera if it allowed it to be set directly on the lens!

I find it's a lot more intuitive and it's also less likely to get accidentally jogged to the wrong aperture.

I'm pretty sure the D7000 will support aperture ring control, but I think that is the only consumer body that will.
 
boliston said:
There is no way I would set the aperture on the camera if it allowed it to be set directly on the lens!

I find it's a lot more intuitive and it's also less likely to get accidentally jogged to the wrong aperture.

I'm pretty sure the D7000 will support aperture ring control, but I think that is the only consumer body that will.
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More intuitive compared to using the control wheel at the front in manual and shutter speed at the back. Being able to see what you selected in the viewfinder and top LCD.

You really think fiddling with the lens is more intuitive?
 
dejongj said:
More intuitive compared to using the control wheel at the front in manual and shutter speed at the back. Being able to see what you selected in the viewfinder and top LCD.

You really think fiddling with the lens is more intuitive?
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The selected aperture will still be fully visible in the viewfinder and the top lcd.

The advantage to me is that I can set aperture without even having to look at anything (eg if I want f/11 it's two clicks from the end stop).

I guess a sort of analogy would be driving a manual geared car with a conventional mechanical gear stick versus changing gear with an "atari gameboy controller like" gear selector.
 
boliston said:
The selected aperture will still be fully visible in the viewfinder and the top lcd.

The advantage to me is that I can set aperture without even having to look at anything (eg if I want f/11 it's two clicks from the end stop).

I guess a sort of analogy would be driving a manual geared car with a conventional mechanical gear stick versus changing gear with an "atari gameboy controller like" gear selector.
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Same as the clicks on the control wheels, after all that is why they are there :)

But hey if you prefer to do it that way, I'm not even trying to stop you.

redddraggon said:
Only if you (can) set the non-CPU settings. And then I don't think it shows 1/3 stops.
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For which there is a limitation to how many non-CPU lenses you can set.

To me, that technique made sense when there was no alternative, however some change can be good :)
 
dejongj said:
You really think fiddling with the lens is more intuitive?
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It seemed to work okay for 50+ years of film cameras. I prefer on the lens but jog wheel will have to do as well.
 
freecom2 said:
It seemed to work okay for 50+ years of film cameras. I prefer on the lens but jog wheel will have to do as well.
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Yup as said, it did...But that was because there was no alternative ;) No many lenses don't even have an aperture ring anymore...
 
I just had a look - it's custom settings> f6 > aperture setting. You want to select "aperture ring". You may prefer the ergonomics of this but most Nikon bodies are designed for command dial setting. Also, you lose the 1/3rd EV steps, it becomes 1 stop adjustment.

badboy1984 said:
Just set the aperture to 22 on the lens and lock it. Then you can control aperture on your camera. Or go to setting for non CPU lens and programme f1.8 50mm to control aperture on your lens but I don't see the point to do that ......
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This is incorrect, just to clean up the advice a bit. The AF-D lens is a CPU lens, so you don't need to enter the data for it manually. And even if you did do that, without setting the custom function it still wouldn't let you use the aperture ring.
 
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freecom2 said:
I just had a look - it's custom settings> f6 > aperture setting. You want to select "aperture ring". You may prefer the ergonomics of this but most Nikon bodies are designed for command dial setting. Also, you lose the 1/3rd EV steps, it becomes 1 stop adjustment.



This is incorrect, just to clean up the advice a bit. The AF-D lens is a CPU lens, so you don't need to enter the data for it manually. And even if you did do that, without setting the custom function it still wouldn't let you use the aperture ring.
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i never tried it myself since i'm happy to change aperture on the command dial. I only mention the non cpu method because it works on non cpu lens with aperture ring and i assume it works the same way on any lens that have aperture ring. You are right about the lens already have CPU so no need to do that.
 
dejongj said:
Same as the clicks on the control wheels, after all that is why they are there :)....
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I would be happier with a control wheel if it had a proper physical "stop" when it reached the highest or lowest f number that the lens will support. A Nikon control wheel will just keep spinning and spinning even when it has reached f/22 or f/2.8. This is sort of similar to some lenses where the focus ring will just keep spinning even after it has hit infinity or close focus - kind of annoying.
 
freecom2 said:
The AF-D lens is a CPU lens, so you don't need to enter the data for it manually. And even if you did do that, without setting the custom function it still wouldn't let you use the aperture ring.
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The only reason I brought up the non-CPU lens thing is that when I use my 50mm by the aperture ring on my D700 it throws up the Fee error, and need the lens details entered as a non CPU lens to get the aperture displayed in the viewfinder
 
redddraggon said:
The only reason I brought up the non-CPU lens thing is that when I use my 50mm by the aperture ring on my D700 it throws up the Fee error, and need the lens details entered as a non CPU lens to get the aperture displayed in the viewfinder
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Actually having just tried it, it seems even if I enter the lens as non CPU I get the fee error.
 
redddraggon said:
Actually having just tried it, it seems even if I enter the lens as non CPU I get the fee error.
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Indeed, it's the custom setting that does the trick (as entering data for a lens that already is sending data to the camera, like the 50mm AF-D, doesn't do anything) :thumbs:
 
Which is good in a way as it makes gems like the 105mm f/2.5 very cheap. And the D7000 is great to work with it, as reddraggon stated dial in the maximum aperture. command dials do the rest and metering works properly as well. Great at this consumer level.
 
LOL yes, I do like a shutter dial as well. That is why I just couldn't go to a camera without the top LCD in a range (i.e. not below the D90 currently). I would hate a) not having the control wheels and b) having to look in a menu constantly.
 
I'd actually like to see Nikon produce a full frame digital camera based on the F3 body aimed purely at enthusiasts.
It would have the F3 controls & body but with the sensor of the D4. It would be of course be fully manual focus like the F3 but would be digital.
The market would be tiny so it would never happen.
 
boliston said:
I'd actually like to see Nikon produce a full frame digital camera based on the F3 body...../SNIP/....
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They make a million different macro lenses that no-one wants so there's always hope :lol:

I'm still waiting for a D2s - DX pro body with video, basically a rock-hard D7000....
 
specialman said:
They make a million different macro lenses that no-one wants so there's always hope :lol:

I'm still waiting for a D2s - DX pro body with video, basically a rock-hard D7000....
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The problem is really that the D2 was the top of the line model, which was only DX because that was the top tech of the time. These days the top DX model (the successor to the D300s eventually) won't be built to the same level as the D4.
 
Freecom - It's unfortunate that there was the decision to ditch DX as a 'pro' format unlike Canon who ran two sensor formats alongside each other.:)
 
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Well the D300s is still considered a "pro" DX camera, and so was the D300. So certainly I don't think DX has been ditched as a pro format, more that their flagships have FX sensors.
 
freecom2 said:
Well the D300s is still considered a "pro" DX camera, and so was the D300. So certainly I don't think DX has been ditched as a pro format, more that their flagships have FX sensors.
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I know it is, but in terms of gripped bodies it's dissapinting to know there'll never be another DX-based body at the top of the tree. How long Canon users have the luxury of APS-H is anyone's guess I suppose now that the 1Dx is coming.
 
specialman said:
I know it is, but in terms of gripped bodies it's dissapinting to know there'll never be another DX-based body at the top of the tree. How long Canon users have the luxury of APS-H is anyone's guess I suppose now that the 1Dx is coming.
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That's just the evolution of digital bodies really; which, when we think about it, is still relatively in its infancy. The rate of development has been fantastically fast but there is still many years to go.
 
Freecom2 - too true. Where it will go we don't know but it's such a shame that I'm going to have to go full-frame :lol:
 
specialman said:
Freecom2 - too true. Where it will go we don't know but it's such a shame that I'm going to have to go full-frame :lol:
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I bet the number of people who want (and are willing to pay for) a DX camera with integrated grip are a tiny number.

For the vast majority of pro users either full (or half) body Fx or half body DX will suffice.
 
redddraggon said:
I bet the number of people who want (and are willing to pay for) a DX camera with integrated grip are a tiny number.

For the vast majority of pro users either full (or half) body Fx or half body DX will suffice.
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I don't doubt that many pros have moved over to FX, especially when the D3 arrived and spelt the end of the D2 series. But I do feel that if there was an alternative (i.e. a D3 but in DX format) it may not be so clear cut. Just my opinion of course but i see DX as being a much more versatile format to work with if only for the cost-saving factor.
 
Northstander said:
OK...thanks guys. So basically select f/22 and lock it. nice one.
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The long and short of it, yes. The most precise control and full compatibility with body is lock at f/22, but with the added option of being able to change it like an old film camera if you prefer that ergonomically (although of course with newer G lenses is an option you don't have). Enjoy!
 
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