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So far they've blamed films, video games, music videos, the lack of a database of the mentally ill on the school shooting. It's a wonder that we're not all serial killers.
Ricardodaforce said:"The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun, is a good guy with a gun"
How about a culture where the bad guy can't get a gun in the first place.
Never mind, I don't want to get banned
You can't expect sense from the NRA! Everywhere that has introduced gun control have experienced fewer shootings. That's the uncomfortable truth for them.
An escalation of weaponry is never a good idea.
I can't put it any better than that
Not sure if you are being sarcastic or not?
Hell no. No sarcasm intended. If I went off on a rant I'd be banned for an eon.
Ok cool, sorry to question you, just my opinion on this isn't what most people like.
Not a problem. We shall nurse our opinions quietly
srichards said:You can't expect sense from the NRA! Everywhere that has introduced gun control have experienced fewer shootings. That's the uncomfortable truth for them.
An escalation of weaponry is never a good idea.
The concept of armed people in primary schools makes me shiver. To offer this as a solution, to what is a ludicrous problem speaks volumes
I began reading the press release, reached the phrase "driven by demons" and decided I probably shouldn't read anymore. It couldn't have sounded anymore crazy if it was written as a spoof.
The fact that such an organisation has achieved as much political and cultural influence is deeply worrying.
Just watched the whole conference and its more bonkers than the satire..
Guns don't kill people, Morons do!!
Essentially it's a tool to do a job, the rifle doesn't fire itself.
Absolutely, and if the moron doesn't have a gun he won't shoot anyone.
Too late for that, and as I posted in the other similar thread, over here - a mass shooting stopped by an armed civilian has an average of 2.5 deaths. A mass shooting which is put to an end by either law enforcement or the shooter taking his own life has an average of 14. Of course, in a perfect world there would be no shooting in the first place."The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun, is a good guy with a gun"
How about a culture where the bad guy can't get a gun in the first place.
Davec223 said:Doesn't matter if they make all guns illegal, it will still happen.
Biggest supplier of Ammo in the states...Stop selling ammo?
Wouldn't work.Stop selling ammo?
Has it really? This country has some of the strictest laws on gun ownership, the stats on this reports paint a very different images to yours above
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6960431.stm
AndyB1976 said:The satirical site Newsthump suggests the NRA banning schools. I wonder how far away the NRA are from advocating this.....
Making your own ammunition does require some brain power though.
Supermarkets selling ammunition seems completely inappropriate to me. You have to be trained and responsible to use guns. They're not just for anyone. We have driver's licences and HGV licences as vehicles can be used to kill and do particularly if stupid people get hold of them. I don't see why guns shouldn't be restricted in similar ways. I don't think anyone would argue for total car ownership and no restrictions on cars and to allow just anyone to drive? Why would anyone argue the same for guns. They have one purpose, to kill things. Cars have alternative purposes, to get from a to b. Killing things can be a consequence but it isn't their sole reason for being. I'm sure the US restricts the sale of explosives so why are guns such an issue?
There was a 'gun' incident locally. It was a can of cillit bang!!!! Entire armed response unit came out and closed the whole road off for some nutter doing some cleaning.
Wouldn't work.
It works, up to a point, in the UK with our very tight controls, making it difficult for criminals to get ammo. But they still get it.
In the US,with virtually no controls of ammo, there will be untold millions of rounds in circulation. And even if that could be dealt with in some way, people could make it themselves. Here in the UK, anyone was able to buy the reloading equipment until a few years ago - that has now changed but you know what? ammo can be made even without a reloading press. All that's needed is primers, readily available, propellent, readily available, empty brass, readily available and a bullet (controlled sale but easily made out of a lump of lead).
How many perpetrators of the US mass shootings have acquired their munitions from criminal/underworld sources and how many acquired theirs via legally purchased means?
Making your own ammunition does require some brain power though.
Supermarkets selling ammunition seems completely inappropriate to me. You have to be trained and responsible to use guns. They're not just for anyone. We have driver's licences and HGV licences as vehicles can be used to kill and do particularly if stupid people get hold of them. I don't see why guns shouldn't be restricted in similar ways. I don't think anyone would argue for total car ownership and no restrictions on cars and to allow just anyone to drive? Why would anyone argue the same for guns. They have one purpose, to kill things. Cars have alternative purposes, to get from a to b. Killing things can be a consequence but it isn't their sole reason for being. I'm sure the US restricts the sale of explosives so why are guns such an issue?