Arca Swiss Lever Clamp

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Having had a near miss with a screw type Arca clamp. I was looking for people's experience with lever type clamps please and recommendations for those that won't break the bank.
It will be used for camera attachment rather than long lens tripod foot if that makes any difference
 
I've used both lever and screw-type arca clamps and I wouldn't say either is more secure than the other tbh. It's just as easy to not lock the arca plate in place properly with the lever type
 
I've used both lever and screw-type arca clamps and I wouldn't say either is more secure than the other tbh. It's just as easy to not lock the arca plate in place properly with the lever type
Thanks for that - my thinking was that a lever type would offer the reassurance of knowing it had locked in
 
Thanks for that - my thinking was that a lever type would offer the reassurance of knowing it had locked in
The problem with lever types is that arca swiss plates are not standardized so the clamp can be too tight or too loose. You can get lever clamps that are adjustable, but a lot of times that just makes it a "quicker releasing screw clamp" because the adjustment is the screw tightened opposing side. There are some where the lever side is adjustable for width/clamping force, with some of those the adjustment is pretty coarse (half turn minimum).

Screw clamps have the advantage of being fairly universal...
 
The ones I use are from Really Right Stuff and they are very secure, there is a half stop that still locks the camera not firm enough for phototaking but it won't fall off thetripod, so if you do catch the lever and partiially open it your camera is still safe. They're not cheap though and they are factory set for clamp grip (no DIY adjustment) so if you're using cheapo camera brackets they may not fit correctly.
 
Having had a near miss with a screw type Arca clamp. I was looking for people's experience with lever type clamps please and recommendations for those that won't break the bank.
It will be used for camera attachment rather than long lens tripod foot if that makes any difference
Not a lot of help, but I haven't had an issue with the screw type (good quality Kirk or Acratech and branded, but cheapish ones from Amazon) but I have had problems with clamp designs (branded but low price, not the cheapest, from Amazon) for the reasons @sk66 said. Both had locks on the actual clamp, so the clamp part was solid, it was the adjustment that was the problem.

I'm also a bit paranoid, and regularly check for tightness of the knob, but not conscious of it ever becoming worryingly loose between checks.

I also did this with the adjustment screw on the clamp style, but they would go from tight to slack very quickly., including one occasion when the camera fell out of it. Which I caught on it's way out :-)

I suspect this was because they were cheap, and it won't be an issue with a better quality make.

As an aside, Either Kirk or Acratech (I can't remember which) advised against using the clamp style with heavy lenses as they found the screw style more reliable.

My quick-release clamp of choice is the Novoflex one, but they fall into the break the bank category.

 
The ones I use are from Really Right Stuff and they are very secure, there is a half stop that still locks the camera not firm enough for phototaking but it won't fall off thetripod, so if you do catch the lever and partiially open it your camera is still safe. They're not cheap though and they are factory set for clamp grip (no DIY adjustment) so if you're using cheapo camera brackets they may not fit correctly.
Unfortunately, it isn't just the "cheapo camera brackets" that might have a problem.

Their is no standard for the Arca mount and the American made Arca plates are a slightly different design to the European plates, which are closer to the original Arca design.

Some of the very expensive and high quality novoflex plates/brackets won't clamp properly on RRS and Kirk lever lock clamps. Novoflex has modified the design on its newer plates to make them fit better, but some of its products still carry a warning about using them with lever lock clamps.
 
I am not sure how the near miss might have happened?

FWIW
I have used for some time a Wimberley C-12 scree version clamp and chose, in part, at the time for it's chunky screw knob compared to alternatives that in effect have a milled finish to the knob grip.

Now, for what ever reason when clamped tight I sometimes struggled to undo it. I then read on a forum (cannot recall which one?) a post by someone who asked the maker about increasing the grip by replacing the size of the knob.

They were kind enough to send me two off of their experimental production, 3D printed, knobs and they were great.

Latterly, (IIRC mid to late last year) I too was looking for a lever clamp and bought the Leofoto LR-70. I checked that my Wimberley &Surui plates 'played nicely' in regard to clamping pressure/tightness.
Now, though I would have preferred one with an auto-lock in the closed position, I think the Leofoto one with it's (as far as I can tell) good detente past TDC of the cam action plus it's half open position that when combined with a plate that has its 'slide stop screws' in situ should be as "safe" as one could be.

HTH

PS as mentioned by others above, you need to buy your plates wisely. IMO any of the good(?) manufacturers should be making them to tight tolerances........perhaps the same cannot be said for the budget brands???

Caveat emptor in all matters, especially when buying on a budget. Personally I would not trust my £1000's of camera gear to something that cost, say, £30 :thinking: :thinking: :thinking:
What is the saying 'penny wise, pound foolish' ???
 
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Unfortunately, it isn't just the "cheapo camera brackets" that might have a problem.

Their is no standard for the Arca mount and the American made Arca plates are a slightly different design to the European plates, which are closer to the original Arca design.

Some of the very expensive and high quality novoflex plates/brackets won't clamp properly on RRS and Kirk lever lock clamps. Novoflex has modified the design on its newer plates to make them fit better, but some of its products still carry a warning about using them with lever lock clamps.
I didn't know that Graham, I must be lucky because all my plates bar a couple (various sources) fit my lever clamps OK (I have 3 on different Tripods).
 
I didn't know that Graham, I must be lucky because all my plates bar a couple (various sources) fit my lever clamps OK (I have 3 on different Tripods).
I have only had personal experience of cheap plates not clamping properly, but it crops up every so often.
 
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I use these from Three Legged thing for all my clamps, four main reasons.
1. I hate screws as they are slow when shooting on the move (Wildlife)
2. Screws are prone to not being tight as you have seen and things fall
3. This one has a locking lever (the black inside the orange) that stops accidental opening
4. Hard to see but there is a tension screw so you can set for the right amount of grip for your specific arca plate (as has been said they are not all the same)

Hope this helps.
 
I am not sure how the near miss might have happened?

FWIW
I have used for some time a Wimberley C-12 scree version clamp and chose, in part, at the time for it's chunky screw knob compared to alternatives that in effect have a milled finish to the knob grip.

Now, for what ever reason when clamped tight I sometimes struggled to undo it. I then read on a forum (cannot recall which one?) a post by someone who asked the maker about increasing the grip by replacing the size of the knob.

They were kind enough to send me two off of their experimental production, 3D printed, knobs and they were great.

Latterly, (IIRC mid to late last year) I too was looking for a lever clamp and bought the Leofoto LR-70. I checked that my Wimberley &Surui plates 'played nicely' in regard to clamping pressure/tightness.
Now, though I would have preferred one with an auto-lock in the closed position, I think the Leofoto one with it's (as far as I can tell) good detente past TDC of the cam action plus it's half open position that when combined with a plate that has its 'slide stop screws' in situ should be as "safe" as one could be.

HTH

PS as mentioned by others above, you need to buy your plates wisely. IMO any of the good(?) manufacturers should be making them to tight tolerances........perhaps the same cannot be said for the budget brands???

Caveat emptor in all matters, especially when buying on a budget. Personally I would not trust my £1000's of camera gear to something that cost, say, £30 :thinking: :thinking: :thinking:
What is the saying 'penny wise, pound foolish' ???
Thanks for that. The near miss was totally operator error; it was early in the morning so I wasn't fully alert and I "thought" I had tightened the clamp fully. I went to move my tripod slightly and in that slow motion moment the camera slid out. Fortunately I managed to catch it before a potentially expensive connection with the ground !
This made me consider a lever clamp so I could have the reassurance of clicking it in place. My online search had thrown up the Leofoto so always good to get some real world feedback. May I ask if accidentally catching the release lever seems likely as suggested by online posts ? or is this more of a potential issue rather than a regular occurrence?

I'm assuming you are still happy with your Sirui plates ?
 
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I use these from Three Legged thing for all my clamps, four main reasons.
1. I hate screws as they are slow when shooting on the move (Wildlife)
2. Screws are prone to not being tight as you have seen and things fall
3. This one has a locking lever (the black inside the orange) that stops accidental opening
4. Hard to see but there is a tension screw so you can set for the right amount of grip for your specific arca plate (as has been said they are not all the same)

Hope this helps.
That looks very good. The tension screw seems a good idea in light of the earlier posts regarding non standard plates sizes
When putting the plate into the jaws is there a definite "click" for want of a better term to let you know it's in and locked?
 
1. I hate screws as they are slow when shooting on the move (Wildlife)
IDT a screw clamp is likely to cause you to miss a particularly good shot. Good shots are not typically rushed. IMO, rushing is more likely to cause you to not get a shot.

My online search had thrown up the Leofoto so always good to get some real world feedback.

When putting the plate into the jaws is there a definite "click" for want of a better term to let you know it's in and locked?
Leofoto is very good quality... I've switched to using a lot of their stuff (tripods, QD, etc)) over the years and moving away from the more expensive brands (Gitzo/RRS). And their LR60/70 clamps have allen adjustable clamping width. The main brandname offender I've encountered for being non-standard here is Smallrig (but I'm sure there are others as well).

There is a definite latching into place as the lever is moved over-center. IMO you would have to be pretty unlucky to accidentally unlatch one. And even then most have an intermediate "slide adjust" position which won't allow the plate to slip entirely out as long as it has stop screws installed.
 
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I standardised on RRS lever clamp plates and Kirk L brackets/camera plates/lens feet about 5 years ago, not had any operating or compatibility issues at all.

GC
 
I standardised on RRS lever clamp plates and Kirk L brackets/camera plates/lens feet about 5 years ago, not had any operating or compatibility issues at all.

GC
As far as I am aware both RRS and Kirk use the same specs, which is slightly different from the original Arca design.

At one time they started a campaign, along with some other American manufacturers, to make their sizings an "international" standard. But after a fair amount of initial press coverage, it seemed to fizzle out.
 
The problem with lever types is that arca swiss plates are not standardized so the clamp can be too tight or too loose. You can get lever clamps that are adjustable, but a lot of times that just makes it a "quicker releasing screw clamp" because the adjustment is the screw tightened opposing side. There are some where the lever side is adjustable for width/clamping force, with some of those the adjustment is pretty coarse (half turn minimum).

Screw clamps have the advantage of being fairly universal...
Even with the screw clamps I have some combinations of plates/bases that don't quite fit. I certainly wouldn't want to risk a clamp style base, with a 'compatible' plate from a different manufacturer.

Several of my clamps/plates have a safety catch, but those never seem to work with bases/plates from other manufacturers

I suspect I have Arca compatible base/plates from at least a dozen manufacturers in total, as well as a couple of similar idea that are considerably bigger... :oops: :$
 
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I use these from Three Legged thing for all my clamps, four main reasons.
1. I hate screws as they are slow when shooting on the move (Wildlife)
2. Screws are prone to not being tight as you have seen and things fall
3. This one has a locking lever (the black inside the orange) that stops accidental opening
4. Hard to see but there is a tension screw so you can set for the right amount of grip for your specific arca plate (as has been said they are not all the same)

Hope this helps.
I had this exact clamp. I have several plates, some from different manufacturers, some from TLT. As mentioned, the problem is that there are differences in the dimensions of the plates, even from TLT and if you need to adjust the clamp (and you will) when changing cameras/lenses, you need a hex key. That fact alone does away with the convenience of a quick release lever. Each to his own but I now use screw clamps only.
 
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