Are there any real Windows 11 problems?

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I have avoided it, but I have a new laptop on the way, and they will only install W11 on it.

I can install W10 as well with dual boot, but is there any need to?

I have a fairly new Dell laptop (i7 but pitifully slow on photo processing) onto which I installed W11 last week end, and apart from spending longer to remove all the M$ rubbish I don't want than it took to install windows, it seems to be OK, except for the task bar, but there is probably a fix for that, just haven't looked yet.

I'm one who believes the improvements are for M$ not for me :)


If only Affinity had been ported to Linux ! I have used Linux a lot in the past, and now the one and only reason for using windows is Affinity.
 
only problem I have is viewing directly RAW files in W11 with the Panasonic G9ii version. I believe this is not for this make either. If I try I et a pink screen so have to use an editing suite. They have not updated the list of cameras yet that can view RAW files directly
Raw Image Extension (Windows only) doesn't work in windows11.
 
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Couple more clicks here and there. But other than that it's fine.
 
Not noticed a difference since making the change (apart from a few screens looking slightly different.)
 
Adamcski said:
Yes, S5ii also brings up pink image for raw files on W11. Other than that, I haven't had any issues with it (W11).
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I think there is a simple answer to that, will mention it again if it works next week when I have had chance to try it for myself on a virgin W11 machine
 
That new start menu arrangement is bloody awful. Nothing wrong with the old one, they just changed it for the sake of it.
 
garry71 said:
That new start menu arrangement is bloody awful. Nothing wrong with the old one, they just changed it for the sake of it.
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I think they are going to have to back-pedal like they did with 10, otherwise there is no way they can stop support the 10 in less than a years time with well over half of windows users still using it.

I have been looking this morning, and it seems there are ways to make it more useable.
 
I have one on W11 and one still on 10 (it can't be updated even using registry tweaks).
After a few changes made there's hardly any difference I soon put start menu back where it ought to be though it is still not as good as on 10.
 
Only 2 issues: scroll bars are very narrow, and if you like to have a lot of windows open simultaneously then it hides the overflow instead of making them smaller.

Apart from that, as always you have to go through and set it up without the junk just like every other version. Then it's fine.
 
Of course the only changes are for the benefit of MS - they will maintain their market and so increase their turnover, Also by cutting off the support that the provide in the way of updates will they ensure a belt and braces approach to getting everyone to upgrade which of course means more profit for them. I for one am quite happy with Windows 10 and will continue to use it for the times I use PS which is getting less and less.

Does anyone ever use all the facilities that are available with W10 never mind W11. I too, had to go over to W11 when I bought a new laptop last year. I had no option! I don't use any of the 'extras' that come with the system that I did with W10 but I had no option. Don't get me started on the AI possibilities either that is one genie that should be crammed back into the lamp, and the sooner than later (but we all know that won't).

My desktop was custom made for me back in around 2006 with upgrades as and when they became necessary usually when the older components failed or were outmoded with new external technology. I currently have W10 which was a free upgrade a while back but I was actually quite happy with W7.

I even have a Dell laptop which is still rumbling away as reliable as ever using WXP (remember that?) I need it because without it I would not be able to run my Nikon Film Scanner. I scan with that (far better than any flat bed even today) I save the scan onto a memory stick and finish off with the desk-top. Slow - yes but It works for me and I am never in a hurry.

I even extend this ethos into my two motorcycles, both BMW's from the early 90's. I can do most of the work on them myself without having to ask a dealer and incur their atmospheric workshop labour costs. (around £120 per hour) The quality of engineering by BMW is very good but the electronic plug in bits can quite unreliable. There are very few on my 2 bikes.
I have toured Europe on both of them at one time or another and they have never been found to be lacking so why change? The added incidental bonus is I can get 'Classic' insurance which for both bikes this next year is £156 fully comp. Both bikes give around 60 mpg and if I wanted to will comfortably exceed 120mph
 
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garry71 said:
That new start menu arrangement is bloody awful. Nothing wrong with the old one, they just changed it for the sake of it.
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It is a new 'tweak' to attract the more gullible who use computers.
(the same happens with cameras for very little benefit but it is new, so must be an improvement, Really! and so increase their turnover. Sorry, I will press the 'cynic off button'.
 
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I am going to continue to use my win10 machine for photoshop and other photos programmes, however I will not use it for other online services.
I will use my tablet or phone. for all other online uses.
 
Terrywoodenpic said:
I am going to continue to use my win10 machine for photoshop and other photos programmes, however I will not use it for other online services.
I will use my tablet or phone. for all other online uses.
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I am thinking along those lines as well, although to get the updates for PS I will have to connect to the internet.
 
There's always been a good excuse for Windows updates causing problems: there are an awful lot of companies making computers and each has the possibility of some small deviation from the generally agreed PC specification.

To be fair to Microsoft (Errr, did I just write that?) they seldom have more problems than Apple, who have total control of the specifications for both hardware and system software. Over the last 12 months, I've had a major failure with the upgrade from Sonoma to Sequoia but no trouble with the upgrade from W10 to W11.

As has been said so often...

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZymBti7700
 
realspeed said:
only problem I have is viewing directly RAW files in W11 with the Panasonic G9ii version. I believe this is not for this make either. If I try I et a pink screen so have to use an editing suite. They have not updated the list of cameras yet that can view RAW files directly
Raw Image Extension (Windows only) doesn't work in windows11.
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Adamcski said:
Yes, S5ii also brings up pink image for raw files on W11. Other than that, I haven't had any issues with it (W11).
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Sangoma said:
I think there is a simple answer to that, will mention it again if it works next week when I have had chance to try it for myself on a virgin W11 machine
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Adamcski said:
I have download the windows raw extension or whatever it is called and it did nothing :)
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On the refurbished Dell ultrabook I bought for travel use I bought with W11 Pro

As part of my setup I did add in the Windows Raw Extension and I can see both OM1 & OM1 mk2 raw files using Windows Explorer.

NB not sure based your above experiences, I also installed FastRawViewer to duplicate my use of that program on my desktop, this was done before I even tried to view raw files in Windows Explorer. So perhaps part of the FRV install it 'affects' Windows function to view raw files too???
 
Have you tried Affinity under Linux with wine or similar? There seems to be mixed views on it with no support from the vendor but there seem to be comments it can be workable, I've been astonished how well the Steamdeck can run demanding Windows games through the proton layer.
 
JohnMcL7 said:
Have you tried Affinity under Linux with wine or similar? There seems to be mixed views on it with no support from the vendor but there seem to be comments it can be workable, I've been astonished how well the Steamdeck can run demanding Windows games through the proton layer.
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Haven't tried that with any programme for maybe 20 years, all the times I tried had issues.
No doubt things have improved now, but haven't felt like trying again :)
 
Rodinal said:
I am thinking along those lines as well, although to get the updates for PS I will have to connect to the internet.
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They are a trusted source so no problem. The bad guys need on line activity of some sort to take advantage of.
 
Adamcski said:
Yes, S5ii also brings up pink image for raw files on W11. Other than that, I haven't had any issues with it (W11).
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I have tried both W11 and W10 in the last couple of days, not gone into much depth because it was not the issue I was looking at.

Neither W11 or W10 will view the G9ii files using Windows Photo (this was before installing Affinity)
However, IrfanView worked on both faultlessly, which was one of the suggestions ages ago when this issue was first brought up.

Therefore there is no need to purchase any editing software just to view the files

So to me, the issue is a non-issue :) OK, windows doesn't view them, but so what, IrfanView is free and better, and much easier to use !

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An added advantage of IrfanView is that from the thumbnails, you can link an external programme to edit them (jpegs), ie paint.net is free and gives very good editing for .jpg


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Mentioned this a long time ago too https://www.isl.co.jp/SILKYPIX/english/p/ free, easy to use, and can be used to "batch develop" to jpg

It also allows you to apply the G9 (ii) camera settings to the raws too
 
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I'm not surprised Microsoft have given up trying to display the contents of Raw files in File Explorer. Each and every camera that come out has a different Raw file format, If camera manufacturers for whatever reason cannot decide on a standard file format for raw file images why should Microsoft try to second guess them and waste time and money
trying to hit the moving target that is raw file formats.?
 
redsnappa said:
I'm not surprised Microsoft have given up trying to display the contents of Raw files in File Explorer. Each and every camera that come out has a different Raw file format, If camera manufacturers for whatever reason cannot decide on a standard file format for raw file images why should Microsoft try to second guess them and waste time and money
trying to hit the moving target that is raw file formats.?
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Yes, agreed, but they don't have to do much. The use the libraw files, so they only have to update their package to include the new ones.
 
Microsoft has always had a choice. To either make the necessary ra w code available through an update. Or, let camera makers supply a file with each camera for users to add them selves.
I know in the early digital camera days that this was possible, as I did it my self.with the supplied codex.

However camera makers supply Microsoft with the necessary codex well before they launch a new camera so it should not be a problem. It is only a tiny file..
If irfanview can do it it. It says a lot about the efficiency of Microsoft.
 
Terrywoodenpic said:
Microsoft has always had a choice. To either make the necessary ra w code available through an update. Or, let camera makers supply a file with each camera for users to add them selves.
I know in the early digital camera days that this was possible, as I did it my self.with the supplied codex.

However camera makers supply Microsoft with the necessary codex well before they launch a new camera so it should not be a problem. It is only a tiny file..
If irfanview can do it it. It says a lot about the efficiency of Microsoft.
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Affinity use libraw's librarys, as did M$ raw extension, neither use anything supplied directly from Panasonic

About LibRaw | LibRaw

www.libraw.org www.libraw.org
 
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