back to 70-200 2.8 non IS :(

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I had little project going on where I was gonna upgrade my equip. One such thing was gonna be the over strectched 70-200 2.8 mk 2. Now all this went down the drain :( and Im back stuck with 70-200 2.8 non IS

Now before I commit myself I need it mainly for gigs, church theatre stuff and similar situation where low shutters might be required... saying taht all subjects are moving subjects.

Now how valuable is the IS in these situations? I have read many times u cant hand hold the full focal lenght at 300 shutter. Now that is not really helpful for low lights me thinks.

As have the buying fears that I might screw up big time in buying Im trying to find peace of mind that IS is useless for moving subjects in low lights thus justify the purchase of this lens.

I have recently sold my 70-300 and so I ended up without a long zoom and that is really uncool :dummy:

The f4 IS would look lovely but doubt if its any good at f4 for these situations.

Please :help:


Saying all this I have swallowed my pride in buying the Mk1 as they seem just slightly more exp the the non IS but they are not that easy to find and I need a lens by mid december
 
I find I have it on but don't set the shutter speed so you rely on it to get sharp results - you never know when your subject is going to move!

The Image Stabilizer is compensating for your movement so if you think about your technique you can make up for it. For example, you could invest in a monopod which will provide a much more stable platform, you can also brace yourself against walls, surfaces, or anything that will make you more stable! Breathing in and having a good stance when taking the shot also helps and carefully watching the ISO / shutter speed. These days you can get away with a lot higher ISO to achieve a good shutter speed at F2.8, a lot of professionals still use the non-IS and invest in a flash to freeze motion in low light
 
The IS, while useful in some situations, would be of limited benefit if your subject is in motion.

In your situation I would rather have the 70-200mm F2.8 non IS and the 135mm F2 than the 70-200mm F2.8 IS II
 
Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 EX DG OS HSM Lens


anyone ever used this if its up o standard with the canon line up?
 
The non IS lens you have is perfectly good if your camera is stable. If you use a tripod, you would normally turn off the IS anyway. If a tripod is difficult, then a good monopod as has been mentioned. Why wast the money on the same focal length lens, just get more stability in the camera.

Malcolm
 
good pionts of the above but a monopod in certain gigs is outta question though elsewhere it is ok... and I have both tripods and monos.

Now saying that see if this makes sense please for anyone you has ever tried it.


While a 70-200 2.8 non IS I would probs be able to shoot it at a bit less then 200 shutter taking everything in consideration (2.8, highish ISO)

How would the smaller 70-200 F4 IS compare?

Granted its slower but how many stops down do I have to take it to get it enpar with 2.8? Its def lighter and smaller and has a 3 stop IS. Granted it might not matter or just a little the IS. If one can manage to shoot a stop more down in shutter cause its lighter would it compensate for the difference between 2.8 and F4?

Sorry asking but I have no way to try it out in RL thus this is just my theory.

Tnx
 
Are you shooting with a 500D indoors with the long end of the lens? If so, 1/200 is not the speed you are looking for to avoid camera shake, it's 1/320 second as the camera has a 1.6x crop factor (I've tried this with 200mm lenses).

I haven't shot any gigs for a while, but I remember needing (on crop) at least 1/80th second at f1.4 on a 50mm lens @ ISO 1600 from distance to get sharp shots, and even then any shots with singer movement were blurred. If you're looking to shoot from the crowd, you will likely get barged around a bit as well, making it difficult to get a good stance.

The IS gives four stops worth of stabilisation I believe, and you will need every one of those stops with a slow, long lens, but remember that the IS won't help freeze action.

I'd suggest either a faster lens or to shoot wide, closer to the action. Happy for others who've used the 70-200/4 IS to prove me wrong though :)
 
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