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Best image quality in a Canon body for under £400
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I'm starting to think the 5d might be better for me because it's going to make me work harder and learn more about photography as according to what i'm reading the jpegs are not great so i'll be delving into the world of raw AND i'll have to be more careful when lining up a shot as the AF is not the best. Maybe this is the tool i need to get my photography to the next level and by that i mean to force me to learn more.
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Eh?
How is that different to the 50d, you can do all that, and more on the 50d?
Why would a 5d make you learn more about photography??
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In some respect and with no disrespect intended I feel as though that is like learning to fly before you can walk, and in my opinion that would leave me constantly disappointed with poor images that I would be getting through constantly battling with lack of knowledge of using that type of camera. By no means will i say that the 50d or any such like camera is the best and i know that it has its flaws but to me its a bit more then a point and click but not to much that i can still enjoy using it as a growing hobby.
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Because there is a bigger difference in jpeg straight from the camera so I'll have to learn more about raw to realise the full potential of the 5d which can only be a good thing. Also as I've said above the auto focus on the 50d is better so more likely to just fire away without too much thought. I can do all this whilst owning a 50d but I'm less likely to if the results are not too dissimilar. Makes sense in my head anyway !!!
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well apart from being FF i doubt theres much difference tbh. in fact i would go as far as saying there is little difference in any canon EOS camera thats currently out there.
sure some might have a faster processor, a few more focal points, shoot more fps. some might have a flip screen or video capabilities... BUT.. and this is THE most important aspect.. a camera is just a tool. pure and simple and a tool as only as good as the hands its in. to much emphasis is placed on a few extra MP or a frame per sec faster... its all just sugar coating and the only thing you need to understand about photography and camera's is the user.
forget about what camera has what feature. is this one better than that one etc its all meaningless if you dont understand composition and light. once you understand that you'll learn to shoot outstanding images with whatever camera is in your hands.
sure i use a canon 60D, but give me my old Praktica MTL5B and i'll shoot images equally as good.
the only thing that will really make any difference is quality glass.
sure some might have a faster processor, a few more focal points, shoot more fps. some might have a flip screen or video capabilities... BUT.. and this is THE most important aspect.. a camera is just a tool. pure and simple and a tool as only as good as the hands its in. to much emphasis is placed on a few extra MP or a frame per sec faster... its all just sugar coating and the only thing you need to understand about photography and camera's is the user.
forget about what camera has what feature. is this one better than that one etc its all meaningless if you dont understand composition and light. once you understand that you'll learn to shoot outstanding images with whatever camera is in your hands.
sure i use a canon 60D, but give me my old Praktica MTL5B and i'll shoot images equally as good.
the only thing that will really make any difference is quality glass.
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Amen to that.
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no HDR just makes all pictures look equally crap
Seriously, if you need to force yourself to learn, why not stop beating yourself up and do something you enjoy?
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when it boils down to it for 400 quid there's a few to choose from
the 5d mk1 is a bargain for a full frame camera at the current going rates this time 18 months or so ago you couldn't buy one for less than 500 quid
18 months on the camera hasn't changed but the price has fallen significantly
the image quality as long as you don't try to push the ISO to much is very good even for todays standards but at 4 frames per second there not the fastest cameras but people who buy them have no concern about FPS
focusing is fine i hear a lot of negativity about the focusing on the early generation bodies but there's a hell of a lot of photos out there that are perfectly in focus
saying that if you want to track wildlife or fast cars at multi frames per second then the 5d mk1 is not for you anything else it's a good camera
thats full frame covered
when we get to APSC bodies there's a whole more to choose from like the 40d , 50d , even the 7d is now approaching your budget
out of those 3 i would choose the 7d even if it meant spending a few extra quid
the 40d and 50d have very little to choose from apart from the pixel count
i know there's more differences between them but when you have the photo's in front of you the only real difference is you can crop a 50d image a little tighter and maybe print a little larger
some will argue the 40d resolves more detail despite the 50d having 5 million more pixels to play with
iv'e owned all the cameras iv'e talked about here i had the 40d , 50d and 5dmk1 at the same time
the 5d and the other 2 bodies are different and have different uses
you need to think what you want to do with your photography and choose a body ( full frame or crop ) to suite
if you are planing wildlife or sports you will be very dissapointed with a 5d mk1 if your planing on portrait then it would be ideal
i said i would choose 7d out of the cameras i mentioned because it wouldn't really limit you on what you choose to do and for the price it is a better camera than the 40d / 50d in enough ways to warrant the price difference and important or not it is the only one that does video which might or might not come in handy
i still own a 40d, put a quality lens in front of it and it still produces great results the reason for letting go of the 5d mk1 is the purchase of the mk2
the 50d was sold a while ago i couldn't really warrant keeping both 40d and 50d there too much alike in actual use ( forget the specs )
it's your money and we all have our own ideas on how to spend it for you
the 5d mk1 is a bargain for a full frame camera at the current going rates this time 18 months or so ago you couldn't buy one for less than 500 quid
18 months on the camera hasn't changed but the price has fallen significantly
the image quality as long as you don't try to push the ISO to much is very good even for todays standards but at 4 frames per second there not the fastest cameras but people who buy them have no concern about FPS
focusing is fine i hear a lot of negativity about the focusing on the early generation bodies but there's a hell of a lot of photos out there that are perfectly in focus
saying that if you want to track wildlife or fast cars at multi frames per second then the 5d mk1 is not for you anything else it's a good camera
thats full frame covered
when we get to APSC bodies there's a whole more to choose from like the 40d , 50d , even the 7d is now approaching your budget
out of those 3 i would choose the 7d even if it meant spending a few extra quid
the 40d and 50d have very little to choose from apart from the pixel count
i know there's more differences between them but when you have the photo's in front of you the only real difference is you can crop a 50d image a little tighter and maybe print a little larger
some will argue the 40d resolves more detail despite the 50d having 5 million more pixels to play with
iv'e owned all the cameras iv'e talked about here i had the 40d , 50d and 5dmk1 at the same time
the 5d and the other 2 bodies are different and have different uses
you need to think what you want to do with your photography and choose a body ( full frame or crop ) to suite
if you are planing wildlife or sports you will be very dissapointed with a 5d mk1 if your planing on portrait then it would be ideal
i said i would choose 7d out of the cameras i mentioned because it wouldn't really limit you on what you choose to do and for the price it is a better camera than the 40d / 50d in enough ways to warrant the price difference and important or not it is the only one that does video which might or might not come in handy
i still own a 40d, put a quality lens in front of it and it still produces great results the reason for letting go of the 5d mk1 is the purchase of the mk2
the 50d was sold a while ago i couldn't really warrant keeping both 40d and 50d there too much alike in actual use ( forget the specs )
it's your money and we all have our own ideas on how to spend it for you
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I do enjoy it Jenny but I prefer spending time with my toddler so the photography takes a back seat most of the time. Learning is all well and good when you have the time and the last 3 years I've just not had the time. I was having a think about this last night and I'm going to plump for the 50d as I really won't have the time for editing lots of raw files and I'll end up regretting buying the 5d if I don't putties time in to learn about the camera. Thanks for all the replies guys.