Best landscape lens - This post is slightly different from the norm!!

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OK, so today I have had my new 10D IR modded camera delivered to me. Had a little play and charged the battery and all looks fab.

BUT ............... Imagine my annoyance when I went to put on my EF-S 17-55 :bang::bang: ................ This damn thing doesn't take EF-S lens's!!!

So, my question now is that I am after a fairly cheapish landscape lens that is an EF. I don't really want to spend L money as for the limited use it will get I can not justify the expense.

Damn damn!! My EF-S 10-22 and 17-55 are useless for the IR lark!!

Recommend me a decent alternative - No budget in mind, but not too much to get me taken to the divorce courts!!!!

BTW - I feel a bit of a nit now!!!
 
BTW - I feel a bit of a nit now!!![/QUOTE]

Is it itchy? :D

I've only ever had a Canon 17-40 f4L and it's really good for the money..

Not sure what your budget is, but you could pick up a used one for around £350ish IMHO...
 
Yeah, nits are itchy and I'm a tad bit pee'd off now. I didn't want to spend a few more hundreds of quid on a new bloody lens!!

I accept that the 17-40 is more loverly than the others, but will I really notice this on stunning (:lol:) IR shots?

What am I looking for with Tamron and Sigmas to make sure they are not EF-S?

Will have to scour those classifieds!!
 
Sara

If money was no object I would say that the best landscape lens for a Canon DSLR would be the 17L TS-E.

The cheapest option is to actually adapt your Efs 10-22 lens to fit the 10D quite easily, just remove the baffle at the back and don't use below 12mm.
 
what about an old manual focus lens?

Something like an old M42 fit fisheye maybe? These can be had for around £120 ish on e-bay.

Don't think normal wide angles go much wider than 24mm on the old manual lenses (could be wrong though)
 
swag72 said:
This sounds painful Ed!! Does it involve a screwdriver? Also I would still be wanting to use it on the 7D
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It's very easy actually, no screwdriver, turn the focus ring to move the rear element away from the baffle, just insert the rounded end of a spoon or fork into the gap away from the contacts and gently prise the baffle from it's housing (it is held in by four plastic sprung grips). Once out it looks like the innards of the lens are exposed although they are normally always like this just partially covered by the baffle.

The adapted lens will continue to work on 1.6x crop cameras as normal.

Seen here with alternative EF baffle fitted

Here it is in stages although he took the mount off to remove the baffle (slightly safer but not actually necessary).

I also used a EF 75-300 baffle to cover the electronics but did not need to adapt it, it fitted perfectly first time.
 
Get an M42 adapter and a load of cheap glass from Ebay! You don't need perfect colour rendition here do you, your IR is way above 800nm anyway.

Arthur
 
As already suggested, give an M42 / Canon adapter a try - I just picked one up for less than a fiver. It looks nicely machined but not had a chance to try it yet.
MIke
 
swag72 said:
What am I looking for with Tamron and Sigmas to make sure they are not EF-S?
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To the best of my knowledge only Canon manufacture EF-S lenses. These can only be mounted on an EF-S compatible body and the 10D is not compatible as you've found out. The 10D only supports the traditional EF mount. All Canon crop bodies after the 10D have the EF-S mount, starting with the 300D.

Sigma, Tamron, etc. manufacture crop lenses but again to the best of my knowledge they should all mount on a normal EF mount. For example, I can mount my Sigma 30 f/1.4 DC HSM on my Canon 400D (which has the EF-S mount) but also on my Canon 5D (which has a traditional EF mount). On the 5D it will not throw a full image circle so the corners will be black but physically there's nothing stopping you from doing this.
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It'll mount but at the wide end, you'll get heavy vignetting.

I spent a lot of time searching for a wide angle for my 5D2. Tried a 17-40 and thought(considering it's an L lens), it was a bit soft at corners....well softer than i expected, but reading views did state this. Plumped for a Tamron 17-35 and been overly impressed by it. It's maybejust as soft at the corners, but sharpness in the centre was just as good as the 17-40.

http://nododo.home.comcast.net/~nododo/ultrawide/

There are more comparsions, but this was one i found before buying the lens.
 
Hi, just wanted to chip in and say that if it's for IR you should see if it has any issues with 'hotspots' before you buy. Some lenses get a fuzzy foggy area in the centre of the pic because the inner coating of the lens doesn't absorb IR like it does regular light.
 
Sara, I would contact Advanced Camera Services http://www.advancedcameraservices.co.uk/ I guess you know them? IR specialists.

They should be able to advise on lenses and do any modifications necessary. I think getting your existing lenses modded to fit is prolly the best option, and there should be no problem at all using them on the 7D. Or converting them back if needs be.

Using cheaper old M42 lenses is also a good option, as you'll be working fully manual anyway.
 
Get a Tamron 28mm f2.5 and an eos adaptor and have a whale of a time! I love my little 28mm tammy. Sharp as a sharp thing and cost me a song.
 
A 28mm lens on a crop has an AOV of 45 degrees on FF which is just a standard lens.
 
Just an idea, but how much would you loose selling the modded 10D and getting a 20D modded? Might turn out to be less than getting a new lens and you get a better camera to boot.
 
Cheers folks - Just bought a Siggy 18-50 F2.8 off Jonathan_Ed on here. Mmm, interesting about the coating - Hope it'll be OK. The test pics looked in the thread looked fine, don't know if that means the IR will be OK.
 
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