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I have one BT socket on the wall in entire house but want another one upstairs so I can plug mac directly into my sky router ..

How much will it cost? Ish ..
 
technically youre not supposed to open up the BT socket to alter the cabling. anything behind the faceplate is BTs property and can land you with fines etc.

that said its really easy to run an extension if youre confident with that sort of thing. all you need is a run of phone cable and a faceplate from your local electrical part supplier. sub £20?
 
how much would BT charge to come and carry out the job?

or would they do the exact same i would?
 
lol okay

DIY it is then

so what do i need a length of cable and a spare socket?

open up master socket connect wires and then run cable upto new socket and fix like a lego brick?

all done?
 
Another option, involving no diy work, is to buy a set of homeplugs.

Keep the router where it is, plug one homeplug in an electrical socket, ethernet cable to router, then other homeplug in electric socket near the mac.

Job done :)
 
You typically don't need to open the master socket up.

Generally the cable supplied plugs in to the master socket and this allows the existing device to 'piggyback' onto it.....meanwhile the other end is a bare wire that is punched or 'krone'd' into the supplied faceplate.
 
Danny has the main socket got 2 screws in the front that appear to fasten more than half the faceplate in. If you remove them it should leave you with a wirable socket on your hand that plugs into the main faceplate.

If so just get a secondary socket, it has no components other than a socket in it and some 6 core phone wire and do it yourself.

You mustnt remove the faceplate thats left behind when you take the front off but it's perfectly okay to wire to the secondary faceplate.
 
Just get an adaptor that you can plug 2 phones into.

Then run an extension into whatever room you require.

Poundland is a good place to look
 
Can I ask why you are doing this, does the Sky router not have WiFi ?
 
if youre going to run an extention at least do it properly and hardwire into the box and add in a proper faceplate at the remote end.

other option is homeplugs, i use 200mbps ones and theyre great.

Scotty Pro said:
Can I ask why you are doing this, does the Sky router not have WiFi ?
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sky only supply routers with a max wireless speed of G if i remeber rightly. also you cant replace the routers without faffing around cloning MAC addresses.

also could signal issues for the OP, thick walls/floors wont help speeds etc.
 
Easy to add an extra socket, buy an extension socket and some phone cable.

You only need to connect three of the terminals between the two sockets, they are numbers 2, 3 and 5.

Take care with the cable, there are three pairs - Blue with white stripes, white with blue stripes, then the same idea with green/white and white/green, and orange/white and white/orange.

You will also need a plastic terminal insertion tool (50p plastic thing to push the wires into the terminals, no screws here.

Alternatively buy an extension lead which gives you a socket at the existing, then another socket at the end of the cable.

HTH.
 
:lol:

The cable in the Maplin pack plugs into your existing socket just like any other BT plug - however it also accepts a plug or two into the back of it. So plug the new Maplin cable/plug into the existing socket, then insert your home phone or ADSL filter into the back of the new plug. This should be all you need to do with the existing socket.

Now run this Maplin cable to the destination of your choosing i.e. upstairs. Cable tack or staple it along the route.

At the destination..place the new wall socket on wall and estimate where to cut the cable - leave a wee bit extra cable here, DON'T trim short.

The sockets generally comprise of a face plate and back box. You usually screw the back box to the wall and feed this new wire into it from the side or underneath. Then you pull this wire through. This 'bare' cable is then punched into the back of the faceplate (follow colour code) - often you'll be supplied with a little plastic punch tool to do this - if not the correct tool is a Krone Tool. Then attach the faceplate to the back box.
 
I would have thought that it would make more sense to run cat5/cat5e from the router to the upstairs PC than run the router off an extension, as I would think that adding anything to the BT cabling could possibly give a lower sync speed, wheras anything AFTER the router cannot affect this.
 
boliston said:
I would have thought that it would make more sense to run cat5/cat5e from the router to the upstairs PC than run the router off an extension, as I would think that adding anything to the BT cabling could possibly give a lower sync speed, wheras anything AFTER the router cannot affect this.
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if youre wireing it direct into the master socket (i.e. not a plug in extention) then essentially all you are doing is adding a few extra meters to the cable with a direct termination to the original BT cabling.

one of my colleagues has his router in the loft with servers and he gets about 20mb sync which he takes great delight in telling me...
 
Ok then so a CAT5 cable to the mac .. Will it improve my speed or not?

My mac is directly above the router about 5M max distance with just the ceiling between then. I only get 4mb with sky but when I do speedtest @ peak time sometimes I get 500kb!!!!!

Awful :@
 
I spent over an hour on phone with there tecchy and I ended up gettig new router but still pushing less than 1mb alot of the time
 
so do you get a better speed while plugged in direct to the router via a network cable?

if not then it just sounds like a plain slow internet connection, there wont be much you can do about that other than move closer to your local telephone exchange, or switch to BT's fibre internet if its in your area (be aware they throttle BADLY).
 
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if not then it just sounds like a plain slow internet connection, there wont be much you can do about that other than move closer to your local telephone exchange, or switch to BT's fibre internet if its in your area (be aware they throttle BADLY).
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omg i would NEVER go with any isp that throttled me - that would suck :eek:
 
if you plug the router in to an extension you'll likely get worse speeds IIRC. I am pretty sure you are better off connecting the router to the master socket, doesn't sound like you are having wireless problems so I'd leave it at that.

What Sky package have you got ? The "Connect" product uses BT ADSL lines, which is by all accounts a bit poo. The "Unlimited" product uses their own ADSL2 equipment and is much better. Connect is throttled I think, Unlimited is not.
If speed drops during busy periods its likely a contention issue at your exchange.
 
neil_g said:
technically youre not supposed to open up the BT socket to alter the cabling. anything behind the faceplate is BTs property and can land you with fines etc.
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Unless the master socket is very old it will have a removeable faceplate which the consumer can legally add their own wiring to the back of. The BT engineer that installs the master socket leaves instructions on how to do this with the consumer - at least they were doing this six months ago when mine was installed.


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What Sky package have you got ? The "Connect" product uses BT ADSL lines, which is by all accounts a bit poo.
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It's only poo if Sky make it poo. It is entirely possible for an ISP to deliver a quality product with no throttling using the BT wholesale ADSL connectivity service.

neil_g said:
if not then it just sounds like a plain slow internet connection, there wont be much you can do about that other than move closer to your local telephone exchange, or switch to BT's fibre internet if its in your area (be aware they throttle BADLY).
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For clarity, it is BT internet (the ISP) that throttles, not BT wholesale that provide the infrastructure services to ISPs, of which BT internet is just one - use a different ISP with FTTC and they won't (necessarily) throttle.
 
Ok so the original q lol ..

What do i need to run a proper extension with a new box upstairs ..

Cable and a box/faceplate? So can be done for under £10?
 
Why do you want to put in a phone extension for your Sky router if you are switching to Virgin?
 
Talk about flighty. This thread was only started on Saturday and Danny last posted to it yesterday morning with no hint that he had changed his mind and was going to switch to Virgin. Meanwhile there is another thread, also started on Saturday, about switching to Virgin. This is not exactly a glowing example of joined up thinking. It reminds me of other threads where the thought process may have drifted off track.

Surely the decent thing to do would be to close this thread.

FWIW I'm signed up to Sky Unlimited for broadband and I'm more than happy to get sync and download speeds of "only" 8Mbps. This certainly beats the forecast performance from the SamKnows broadband checker, and at 1.4km from the exchange as the crow flies I don't see why I should expect faster speeds than that. From SamKnows....

According to BT Wholesale, houses at your postcode should be able to support

up to 2Mbps via ADSL
5Mbps or greater ADSL connection via ADSL Max
6Mbps or greater via ADSL2+
Standard ADSL RAG results

* You can receive 2Mbps ADSL
* You can receive 1Mbps ADSL
* You can receive 512kbps ADSL
* You can receive 256kbps ADSL

You are approximately 1.40km from the exchange. Note that this is the straight line distance - the actual cable length will be longer!
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Receiving 8Mbps is fine by me.

I did have a period of miserable performance while on Sky broadband and after considerable effort on their part to find the cause of the problem it was finally traced to a damaged phone cable on my property where some muppet installers (not from Sky or their subcontractors) had driven a nail straight through the phone line. Once I fixed that little faux pas my broadband service from Sky has been fast and steady ever since, and it only costs me £7.50 per month.
 
i only ordered virgin last night .. up until then i was open to sugestions on extending bt wire upstairs (this thread) and the other thread was should i leave sky for virgin ..
 
Yes, I get that, but now that you have made your decision you might think to close this thread so that people don't waste their time posting further, in good faith, trying to help you out.

As for you getting 0.5Mbps from Sky, well, something sure as hell isn't right, but since you're leaving (or have now left) the point is moot.
 
wel no because if they answer the question ill learn how to do it and gain some more life knowledge as we all will ..
 
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