Bugatti Veyron EB 16.4

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Just a little run around for trips to the shops and casino.

I grabbed these shots outside the Monte Carlo casino using my D300 and Tokina 11-16.

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Wow nothing much to comment regarding this car don't you think?
 
TBH, if it's CC you're after then IMO these are just holiday snaps of what is a very desirable car. Yes, there are some wide-angle capers going that are 'of the genre' but without being about to control the light (i.e. being able to use flash etc) and the surroundings (i.e. the people) this is never going to be the ideal situation to shoot a car.
 
Pah thats nothing compared to the new veyron! :)
 
Thats the one car i wanted to see while i was there but missed out, lucky !
 
johnaalex said:
Why not? I am always looking for C&C.

Thanks.
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specialman has summed it up nicely I think. These are just snaps so there's no point giving C&C on them.

specialman said:
TBH, if it's CC you're after then IMO these are just holiday snaps of what is a very desirable car. Yes, there are some wide-angle capers going that are 'of the genre' but without being about to control the light (i.e. being able to use flash etc) and the surroundings (i.e. the people) this is never going to be the ideal situation to shoot a car.
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I'm no expert my my c&c would be that no 4 & 5 work well but shame about the people and both need straightening imho (or the perspective/framing is not totally central). no6 is a nice angle but shame the back of the car is cut off and looks like the light was difficult for all of them.
 
specialman said:
TBH, if it's CC you're after then IMO these are just holiday snaps of what is a very desirable car. Yes, there are some wide-angle capers going that are 'of the genre' but without being about to control the light (i.e. being able to use flash etc) and the surroundings (i.e. the people) this is never going to be the ideal situation to shoot a car.
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But what is the fun shooting in ideal situations, trying to get the best results in challenging situations is much more fun. And any tips to do so would be useful to me at least.

Dal said:
specialman has summed it up nicely I think. These are just snaps so there's no point giving C&C on them.
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Thanks for nothing.

ned.c said:
I'm no expert my my c&c would be that no 4 & 5 work well but shame about the people and both need straightening imho (or the perspective/framing is not totally central). no6 is a nice angle but shame the back of the car is cut off and looks like the light was difficult for all of them.
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Thanks, numbers 4 and 5 are like that as a result of using an Ultra Wide Angle lens. I did try to correct the distortion with PP but I could not really get them to look much better. Light was either full on sun or shade :(
 
johnaalex said:
But what is the fun shooting in ideal situations, trying to get the best results in challenging situations is much more fun. And any tips to do so would be useful to me at least.
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There's challenging and there's simply bad environments to shoot; a busy Monte Carlo in the middle of a sunny day is definitely the latter.

I like the enthusiasm you have for this kind of shooting (I notice you have more images on show in another thread of similarly exotic cars) but the reality of the situation is you will always be at a disadvantage when you have not one iota of control over anything. If you're trying to create stunning illustrations of what these supercars are then you're fighting a losing battle in this case.

Pros who specialise in shooting these kinds of cars do so with years of trial & error behind them and with a raft of ideas regarding lighting, shooting angles and location.

You've replied to another comment with this....

johnaalex said:
Thanks, numbers 4 and 5 are like that as a result of using an Ultra Wide Angle lens. I did try to correct the distortion with PP but I could not really get them to look much better. Light was either full on sun or shade :(
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...doesn't that sum things up? You've used a UWA lens to get everything in and the lighting has been rubbish, despite processing and tweaking, in the end you've had to accept that they can't be recovered back to something that's more appealing.

I understand this car obviously appeals to you and you see it as something special - no argument there from me - but this is just holiday snap car porn and not interesting photography.

Now, in terms of improving then I think you need to look at the basics, the fundamentals of shooting cars; do you want to shoot statics or actions (or both)? Do you need to be able to control light? How can I control the angle from which I shoot and the background I'm shooting against?

I know getting hold of a Veyron might be a hard job but surely you know someone with a vaguely appealing car, be it a souped-up hot hatch or a luxury saloon. Why not practise on that first and get a feel for what you want t achieve? Then you can experiment with lighting and new locations and I guarantee you'll have results that are 10 times better with little effort.
 
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Had the back end not being slightly clipped, I would actually have quite liked #6 as it shows a bit of the buildings in the background, but cuts out the mass of people visible in the other shots
 
specialman said:
There's challenging and there's simply bad environments to shoot; a busy Monte Carlo in the middle of a sunny day is definitely the latter.

I like the enthusiasm you have for this kind of shooting (I notice you have more images on show in another thread of similarly exotic cars) but the reality of the situation is you will always be at a disadvantage when you have not one iota of control over anything. If you're trying to create stunning illustrations of what these supercars are then you're fighting a losing battle in this case.

Pros who specialise in shooting these kinds of cars do so with years of trial & error behind them and with a raft of ideas regarding lighting, shooting angles and location.

You've replied to another comment with this....



...doesn't that sum things up? You've used a UWA lens to get everything in and the lighting has been rubbish, despite processing and tweaking, in the end you've had to accept that they can't be recovered back to something that's more appealing.

I understand this car obviously appeals to you and you see it as something special - no argument there from me - but this is just holiday snap car porn and not interesting photography.

Now, in terms of improving then I think you need to look at the basics, the fundamentals of shooting cars; do you want to shoot statics or actions (or both)? Do you need to be able to control light? How can I control the angle from which I shoot and the background I'm shooting against?

I know getting hold of a Veyron might be a hard job but surely you know someone with a vaguely appealing car, be it a souped-up hot hatch or a luxury saloon. Why not practise on that first and get a feel for what you want t achieve? Then you can experiment with lighting and new locations and I guarantee you'll have results that are 10 times better with little effort.
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Thanks for some food for thought, sorry you do not find the shots interesting. I post this shots to get some feedback, and whereas I do not intend to try and make a living taking photos of cars, or anything else for that matter, I do try and record what I see and find interesting in the best visually engaging way possible.

AshD said:
Had the back end not being slightly clipped, I would actually have quite liked #6 as it shows a bit of the buildings in the background, but cuts out the mass of people visible in the other shots
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Thanks Ash, good point about the clipping of the rear end :).
 
John I can understand why you took these even given the limitations of the surroundings.
Being positive and if it were me, I'd take the car and remove it from its busy surroundings. The reflection of the building adds to the whole busyness in the original picture but when reduced to the reflected buildings only can compliment the cars form, IMO.

This picture isn't perfect by any means but it does represent a quick cop out with minimal work and a better result, perhaps.

Always good to see others pictures. Thanks John.


 
S4S said:
John I can understand why you took these even given the limitations of the surroundings.
Being positive and if it were me, I'd take the car and remove it from its busy surroundings. The reflection of the building adds to the whole busyness in the original picture but when reduced to the reflected buildings only can compliment the cars form, IMO.

This picture isn't perfect by any means but it does represent a quick cop out with minimal work and a better result, perhaps.

Always good to see others pictures. Thanks John.


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S4S

Thanks for doing that, I think it looks great and gives me food for thought. My PPS skills are a notch above above basic, but my main problem is seeing the potential in the shot. Feedback like this is useful for me.

Dal said:
If you really want harsh C&C then I'll give you it but you won't like it at all.

These should really be in the fluffy kitten section of the board.
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I do not mind harsh C&C if it is constructive and well intended, otherwise I would not post anything.
 
I have to say that it's better to take the shots than to say "well it's not ideal so just ignore it" As a record shot it's one I know I would love to have in my collection and I don't think you have done a bad job John under the circumstances (y)
 
The other option of course is a liberal dose of cheat.


engine by TCR4x4, on Flickr​
 
ohhh catty comments on here, love the car, thanks for posting as never seen one aprart from TV and this does it justice to show what car really like
 
Pretty much agree with Darren on these, they're nothing but holiday snaps of a car.

The compositions are pretty much none existent, they're just full frame. What I have learned over the past couple of years shooting for mags is, if there are people close by or stunning buildings in the background, then include them, it helps put the picture into context. An organised car shoot is all about the car and the location you decide to put it in. A car parked at a show, event or in a public place needs something else other than just full frame shots of the car, bring in the surroundings a little and tell a story, otherwise they just look like snapshots. This is the big difference to me between taking a 'picture' or composing a 'photograph'.
 
justinitus said:
Is that a Spyker parked next to the Veyron?
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that's what I was thinking - looking at the couple of pics it's in, then I'd say it definitely is. Would have been nice to havea few shots of the 2 cars side by side - both about as rare as each other - would still have the Veyron if I had the money though :D
 
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