Canon 50D

jackbauer said:
no offense but if i looked around i could prob find just as good quality picts using the canon 30d or even the 350d. would be nice to see some proper test pictures using same lens.
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You can also get a good blu-ray picture from a 720P LCD TV.
However, do you think the picture quality on a 1080P LCD TV would be worse, the same or better?
You are arguing for the sake of it.
Please pay attention to the views experienced 50D users have told you.
I think you'll find many of these are previous owners of a 350D, 400D and the 450D.
However if you believe you are correct, just stick with you 450D and your 18-55mm IS lens and be done with it.
No offense intended but your comparisons are just so wrong.
 
oh and this is an iso 6400 pic

so 2 full stops above where a 450 even goes and I think a stop above where a 40d goes but that could be wrong
 
jackbauer said:
Euan yes i would like a suggestion to a good walkabout lens as an alternative to the 50d.
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I like my set up with the 17-55 IS & 70-200, i had a 24-105 but as good a lens as it is, it wasnt quite wide enough. the only thing id add at the moment is a 100-400 IS for the extra reach.

So for me the 17-55 is very good walkabout lens.
 
TBH the picture of the fisherman is just too noisy and the coulored lines are terrible and thats only a 800 pix image- OP stick with the body you have and get some glass you will gain nothing from a 50D, the glass you have will be even worse on the 50D body as the larger pixel count will cause the images to look softer with more CA.
 
yeah but its about as noisy as my 450 was at 1600 and its 2 stops faster

and I would recomend a tamron 17-50 f2.8 as a budget alternative to the 17-55IS
 
Bear in mind there is microadjustment and 920k dots LCD and the dial is silver (LOL) on the 50D.
My 50D back to jacobs atm, and its been with them longer than I had it.
 
I think you need to ask yourself a Question
What is wrong with you set up NOW?
What is it you can not do with you Kit?
The photos you take are more about the person behind the camera then the camera itself.
Why do you want to upgrade your body?
What kind of photos do you take? Wildlife, sport, portraits, landscape?
When you answerer the questions you can then see if you need to get any new equipment or not.
So far you have had a lot of info yet you are still in the same place.
 
Chaz Photos said:
I think you need to ask yourself a Question
What is wrong with you set up NOW?
nothing really, i would like to take super sharp picts though
What is it you can not do with you Kit?
dont think there is anything
The photos you take are more about the person behind the camera then the camera itself.
i know that (most of the time anyway)
Why do you want to upgrade your body?
would like a new model
What kind of photos do you take? Wildlife, sport, portraits, landscape?
bit of everything
When you answerer the questions you can then see if you need to get any new equipment or not.
So far you have had a lot of info yet you are still in the same place.
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Chaz Photos said:
I think you need to ask yourself a Question
What is wrong with you set up NOW?
What is it you can not do with you Kit?
The photos you take are more about the person behind the camera then the camera itself.
Why do you want to upgrade your body?
What kind of photos do you take? Wildlife, sport, portraits, landscape?
When you answerer the questions you can then see if you need to get any new equipment or not.
So far you have had a lot of info yet you are still in the same place.
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:plusone:

I upgraded for the sports AF and FPS, and the better high iso for gigs
 
OK why are you photos not sharp? You need to ask
I had a 300D up till the begin of the summer and I won 5 CUP last year at two of my camera clubs some member having the likes of 5D and D200 and a lot of others I hade old Tamron lens form my film days and the 18-55 kit lens.
But I know how to use them and get sharp photos. Where is some of your work we can see and I hope your EXIF is intact so it will give some info about them
One last question are you shooting in RAW or Jpg if JPG what settings have you set.
 
I moved from a 400D to a 50D. recently did my first wedding but my main subjects are wildlife and landscapes.

First off, inside shots at the wedding were at 1000iso with no flash and the results are pretty amazing. Lens used was a 28-105mm F4 L canon. They are just so much better than I could have ever hoped.

As for Live view, I've used this to photograph tawney owls in fairly low light while a friend was with me with a 40D. The 50D's screen improvements made it better and easier to use in the light conditions and the results, once cropped on both cameras were comparable but we both agreed marginally better on the 50D. We used the same lens (300mm F4) and swapped the body while the lens was on the same tripod. A fair comparision really.

Overall though, I wouldn't swap the 50D for anything at the moment. My friend now has a 5DmkII and really feel for what I want, the 1.6x magnification from the sensor meets my needs much more than being full frame.
 
i think we all agree then that to use the 50d u need a decent set of lens to get the best out of it! might be abit of problem for me as only have a budget of about 750ish
 
jackbauer said:
i think we all agree then that to use the 50d u need a decent set of lens to get the best out of it! might be abit of problem for me as only have a budget of about 750ish
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To get teh MAX out of it yes BUT to get good photos No I use both L glass and a 17-85 is usm and both give good photos
 
jackbauer said:
i think we all agree then that to use the 50d u need a decent set of lens to get the best out of it! might be abit of problem for me as only have a budget of about 750ish
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I've used the 300F4 L on both a 400D and the 50D and on both cameras it makes a real difference. The 28-105 makes a real difference over the kit lens on both again. Using the kit lens (18-55mm) on both cameras, the 50D is the winner by a country mile and them some!

I think it becomes the old thing of you get what you pay for! Whether its the camera body or the lens you use.
 
jackbauer said:
i think we all agree then that to use the 50d u need a decent set of lens to get the best out of it! might be abit of problem for me as only have a budget of about 750ish
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I think we all agree that decent glass is relevant no matter what body you choose.
 
Chaz Photos said:
well it would help if you pointed to the full size ones so the EXIF can be read
Your 450D take 4272 x 2848 you can print to A3 with this.
You also did not say if you use Jpg or not if so what settings
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u say i can print a3? is that without expanding? not sure if that is possible.
sorry
the one of my nephew:
Exposure: 1/60
Aperture: f/3.5
Focal Length: 23 mm
ISO Speed: 400
hand held

the cat one is:
Exposure: 0.013 sec (1/80)
Aperture: f/5.6
Focal Length: 250 mm
ISO Speed: 100
hand held
 
jackbauer said:
u say i can print a3? is that without expanding? not sure if that is possible.
sorry
the one of my nephew:
Exposure: 1/60
Aperture: f/3.5
Focal Length: 23 mm
ISO Speed: 400
hand held

the cat one is:
Exposure: 0.013 sec (1/80)
Aperture: f/5.6
Focal Length: 250 mm
ISO Speed: 100
hand held
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Well there is one problem hand holding a 250mm lens at 1/80 You need to have at least 1/250 ie same as the mm of the lens to hand hold it unless you have IS
As for tehother one too small to see
And yes you can print A3
 
Chaz Photos said:
Now you talking about a 5D this is now moving to a differant place
What do you what to use it for?
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Moi?

Landscapes, portraits, gigs (low light) and anything wide.

I already know FF is perfect for my needs, but I'm not sure the added expense is worth it over, say, a SH 40D.

Not to mention requiring L glass to get the most out of the sensor, I don't own any.
 
Chaz Photos said:
Well there is one problem hand holding a 250mm lens at 1/80 You need to have at least 1/250 ie same as the mm of the lens to hand hold it unless you have IS
As for tehother one too small to see
And yes you can print A3
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The cat one looks like it is suffering from camera shake.
 
Chaz Photos said:
And yes you can print A3
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is that without cropping and expanding? just tried pasted a picture into p.shop. on a A3 background at 300dpi. To fill the page i had to expand it. which then crops some of the pict out as its a different ration.

Edit: just read that i need to print at 360 for decent quality.
 
erm all dslrs have the same aspect ratio it has to be 3x2, so will NOT fit A3 properly

360 dpi do you mean?

10 MP is plenty for A3

On that budget I would replace a 450d and 18-55IS with a 40d and tamron 17-50 f2.8
 
david1701 said:
erm all dslrs have the same aspect ratio it has to be 3x2, so will NOT fit A3 properly

360 dpi do you mean?

10 MP is plenty for A3

On that budget I would replace a 450d and 18-55IS with a 40d and tamron 17-50 f2.8
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seriously 40D? i mean i heard alot of good stuff about it, but dont u think its abit old?

also how is 10Mp possible to fit a3 at 360dpi without resizing?!??

size of my 12mp picts: 4272 x 2848
size of a3 at 300dpi: 4961 x 3508
 
jackbauer said:
seriously 40D? i mean i heard alot of good stuff about it, but dont u think its abit old?
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It's only just been discontinued.
You really do have to get out of this mentality of thinking just because it isn't the latest release that it is 'old'.
Does the 500D mean the 450D is old even though the 450D is still on the market?
 
hashcake said:
It's only just been discontinued.
You really do have to get out of this mentality of thinking just because it isn't the latest release that it is 'old'.
Does the 500D mean the 450D is old even though the 450D is still on the market?
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sorta... its one of the reasons i want a new cam...even though money is an issue lol
 
jackbauer said:
size of my 12mp picts: 4272 x 2848
size of a3 at 300dpi: 4961 x 3508
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Will you be constantly viewing the A3 image from 1cm away?

In real world terms (a couple feet away) you wont see the degradation in quality.

At the end of the day it's your money and your choice. But the 40D is far from an obsolete camera, some people regard it as a better camera IQ wise than the 50D because it has less pixels.

Hell, there's still people who use a 20D as their main squeeze and couldn't be happier.
 
Ok, I don't know how to put this without offending you so please don't take it the wrong way..
You've been told by another member that the shutter speed on your cat shot is way to low and I pointed the camera shake.
Now, with these easy to identify errors, that would tell me that I need to improve my photograhy skills.
In what way will a 40D/50D with your current lenses do to improve the photo?
 
hashcake said:
Ok, I don't know how to put this without offending you so please don't take it the wrong way..
You've been told by another member that the shutter speed on your cat shot is way to low and I pointed the camera shake.
Now, with these easy to identify errors, that would tell me that I need to improve my photograhy skills.
In what way will a 40D/50D with your current lenses do to improve the photo?
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look thanks evryoine for ** advice but as a few have mentioned. i think i will stick tome 450d at the moment...until i get it back from the repairs. who knows in 4weeks time i might have enough money just to buy the 50d even if it does have alot of problems...it might not help me with my camera shake...but as many on ere mentioned its a decent camera! and i should be able to print at 360dpi without much problems.
 
jackbauer said:
seriously 40D? i mean i heard alot of good stuff about it, but dont u think its abit old?

also how is 10Mp possible to fit a3 at 360dpi without resizing?!??

size of my 12mp picts: 4272 x 2848
size of a3 at 300dpi: 4961 x 3508
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erm about the resizing you won't use 360 dpi, there are plenty of things that will hurt your image at A3 before pixels

its the lens that makes the difference, a 40d and tamron 17-50 f2.8 kicks the hell outta a 50d and 18-55 IS. If your budget is 750+the resale on a 450d kit I would consider the 50d or maybe upgrading your tele to a 70-200 f4L
 
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