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30mp!? I don't even make use of my 10mp!
I would hope that improving still further the high iso should take priority over any increase in resolution.
MKIII definitely on its way, maybe even Dec/Jan. Relayed directly from a Canon employee.
Why all the MP bashing? I would kill for 30MP in the studio, or even more!! Just much more flexibility and no need to worry about up sizing for the rare time I do want a SUPERSIZED print. If I pull off a lazy crop on the white BG, I might have already lost half my pixels to that featureless white wall.....as such I always shoot tight, try and leave little around the subject, but with groups of young kids it can be really difficult to keep up with action...I would love to be able to shoot a bit wider, from a bit further back, and know that I have a good 15 to 25 MP of detail....at the moment? It's probably 4MP of white wall, and 6MP of actual detail.
G.
NOISE! Bigger the more MP you put on a sensor or equivalent size the more noise you'll see. Same goes for 40/50/60MP Hasselblads though because the sensor size is much larger they can get away with it a bit more.
I don't really see why they would improve the AF to the standard of the 7D! A full-frame body, with advanced AF...... surely that would be starting to tread on the 1Ds 's toes?
The 5D is most suited to studio and landscape stuff I always thought, so improving the AF I don't think would really do much for it's buyers. What could the 1Ds mkIV offer that a 5DIII couldn't, apart from build quality and higher frame rate?
i dont mind the AF on the MKII, i took 700 shots yesterday in a hectic indian wedding. Some of them 1-2 seconds apart, and the AF was spot on every time. Inbetween that I hand to adjust zoom and recompose, so personally im well pleased with the AF.
Why all the MP bashing? I would kill for 30MP in the studio, or even more!! Just much more flexibility and no need to worry about up sizing for the rare time I do want a SUPERSIZED print. If I pull off a lazy crop on the white BG, I might have already lost half my pixels to that featureless white wall.....as such I always shoot tight, try and leave little around the subject, but with groups of young kids it can be really difficult to keep up with action...I would love to be able to shoot a bit wider, from a bit further back, and know that I have a good 15 to 25 MP of detail....at the moment? It's probably 4MP of white wall, and 6MP of actual detail.
G.
Does it need the 7D's AF? If we think of where the 5D sits between other models, it's positioned as a landscape/portrait camera, not a sports camera. Do you need the 7D AF system?
Presumably though, for base ISO operations (50 / 100 / 200) whatever it may be, the noise is not going to be an issue? Appreciate D3S style functionality & 40MP is probably a pipe dream, but for me, I am thinking STUDIO only for now...I would keep my D3 for those other types of shoots.
G.
You would have thought so, but have you seen the noise on the 7D at low ISOs? It's mental!
So can someone explain the maths,
If I've got a 15mp camera and print to 10x8, surely a 30mp camera printing at 10x8 will have twice or more detail condensed into the print. Will this show up any noise more or less?
Surely the 7D is capable of a noiseless shot? Even on it's base ISO?
G.
Hi Gary,
The 7D's ISO performance isn't all it's cracked up to be... I've sent two back now and changed to the 5DMKII. I was getting noise at ISO400 that certainly shouldn't have been there. My girlfriend does my second shooting at weddings and took a few shots with her 1000D over my shoulder at the same settings (as near as damn it) and had smoother images... I certainly don't expect a £300 camera to outclass a £1200 camera!
I know lots of people are really happy with their 7D's so maybe I just got unlucky but my experiences aren't good!
Si
in order to cram more and more into pixels into a sensor size that is fixed, the pixels need to be smaller in size, and a by product of this is image noise. I think the only way this trade off can be balanced in a newer MKIII with more MP's, is if Canon come up with better algorithms for ISO handling. A straight increase in MP's with improvements elsewhere would be a step backwards.
My 2 cents.
... I read somewhere it has the SAME ISO PERFORMANCE ...
a 5d2 with pro series af would be lovely, a 5d2 with pro series af and even more cropping power would be amazing
Ok I can understand that. I know in the 40 to 50d they went to gapless microlenses to pack it all in, perhaps they'll do the same in the next sensor for the 5d.
The 50D has a 22.3 x 14.9 mm CMOS sensor at 15mp, the same size as the 7d which is 18mp.
The 5D mk2 a 36 x 24 mm CMOS sensor at 21mp, same as the 1Ds mk3?
30Mp probably isn't too much of a jump upwards of a full frame sensor, or maybe they'll make the sensor bigger?
But how far do we need to go before we get to the same resolution as film or have we passed that already?
Does it need the 7D's AF? If we think of where the 5D sits between other models, it's positioned as a landscape/portrait camera, not a sports camera. Do you need the 7D AF system?
Why all the MP bashing? I would kill for 30MP in the studio, or even more!! Just much more flexibility and no need to worry about up sizing for the rare time I do want a SUPERSIZED print. If I pull off a lazy crop on the white BG, I might have already lost half my pixels to that featureless white wall.....as such I always shoot tight, try and leave little around the subject, but with groups of young kids it can be really difficult to keep up with action...I would love to be able to shoot a bit wider, from a bit further back, and know that I have a good 15 to 25 MP of detail....at the moment? It's probably 4MP of white wall, and 6MP of actual detail.
G.
I could be wrong but i get the feeling that people (naturally) would like a 1Ds, in the body of a 5D, for the price of a 5D....forgetting that improved AF cannot be magically added without increasing the cost of the camera.