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I've been shooting with the 6D for about 5 years now and love it. But I've been looking at the size and weight as I'm frequently carrying about the kit for landscape shots.
I did borrow a Canon EOS RP and RF 24-105L from the Canon Test Drive programme recently and found it to be really good and that combo was about 200g lighter when compared to my 6D and 24-105L. It may not sound like much, but on a long walk, it does make a difference. It was also smaller in the bag.
I've not got much experience with EVFs, but the RP's viewfinder was excellent, no discernable lag, nice and bright, crisp. The only thing that bugged me was that the sensor under the viewfinder would turn off the screen when anything brushed past it.
Using the touchscreen to select the focus point was good once you were used to it, but if you're a left-eye shooter like me, then your nose gets in the way slightly
Coming from the 6D to the RP it was all quite natural. In fact I think moving the rear thumb wheel to just by the top plate is actually a slightly better position because that's where your thumb rests without bending it.
I'm still undecided about mirrorless and I don't have the budget right now but I've been looking at the pros and cons for a while. The weight factor is a big one for me. If I make the move, there's no point ending up with a kit bag that is heavier. Even if the body is lighter, some of the full frame mirrorless glass is heavier.
EG:
Canon EF 24-70 f2.8 Mk2 - 805g
Canon RF 24-70 f2.8 IS - 900g (but admittedly that's got IS)
Sony FE 24-70 f2.8 GM - 886g
Canon EF 24-105 f4 L Mk2 - 795g
Canon RF 24-105 f4 L - 700g (ie RF is lighter)
Sony FE 24-105 f4 G - 663g (ie lighter than the RF, just)
So the Canon DSLR 24-70 lens is lighter than the Canon and Sony mirrorless versions. But with the 24-105 lenses, the Sony is lighter than the RF, which is in turn lighter than the EF.
Telephotos:
Canon EF 70-200 f2.8 Mk3 - 1440g
Canon RF 70-200 f2.8 - 1070g (not sure how they saved that much weight but it's also a smaller package in your bag)
Sony FE 70-200 f2.8 - 1480g
Fuji XF 50-140 f2.8 OIS - 995g (70-200 equivalent)
Here the Canon mirrorless lens is lighter. But there's a third party option. Tamron's 70-180 f2.8 for Sony mount, which is 815g. Sony also has an f4 lens which is 840g.
Body weights:
5DMk4 = 890g (6D is 770g)
R5 = 738g
RP = 485g
A7III = 650g
X-T4 = 607g
Looking at what might be in my kit bag:
My current DSLR kit:
6D, 16-35mm f2.8 L Mk1, 24-105L = 2040g
Canon RP, 15-35mm f2.8, 24-105L = 2025g
IE, not much weight saving
Other options:
Sony A7 Mk3, Sony 16-35 f2.8 GM, 24-105 = 1993g (could make it lighter switching to the 16-35 f4)
Sony A7 Mk3, Tamron 17-28mm f2.8 and 28-75mm f2.8 = 1620g (with Tamron lenses for comparison, these are also cheaper, but don't have stabilisation)
Fuji X-T4, 10-24mm f4, 16-80mm f4 = 1510g
Fuji X-T4, 10-24mm f4, 16-55mm f2.8 = 1725g
A definite weight saving with the Sony/Tamron combo or with the Fuji/f4 lenses.
* all weights taken from DPReview.com
Canon don't have any other RF f4 L glass out yet, but it'll be interesting to see what they are like in terms of size and weight. I came to the conclusion that using older lenses on adaptors wasn't really something I wanted to do, even if it does work. I don't have any do or die lenses that I'd really miss.
Obviously it's not all about weight, it's also about the user experience and that's another thing entirely.
I did borrow a Canon EOS RP and RF 24-105L from the Canon Test Drive programme recently and found it to be really good and that combo was about 200g lighter when compared to my 6D and 24-105L. It may not sound like much, but on a long walk, it does make a difference. It was also smaller in the bag.
I've not got much experience with EVFs, but the RP's viewfinder was excellent, no discernable lag, nice and bright, crisp. The only thing that bugged me was that the sensor under the viewfinder would turn off the screen when anything brushed past it.
Using the touchscreen to select the focus point was good once you were used to it, but if you're a left-eye shooter like me, then your nose gets in the way slightly
Coming from the 6D to the RP it was all quite natural. In fact I think moving the rear thumb wheel to just by the top plate is actually a slightly better position because that's where your thumb rests without bending it.
I'm still undecided about mirrorless and I don't have the budget right now but I've been looking at the pros and cons for a while. The weight factor is a big one for me. If I make the move, there's no point ending up with a kit bag that is heavier. Even if the body is lighter, some of the full frame mirrorless glass is heavier.
EG:
Canon EF 24-70 f2.8 Mk2 - 805g
Canon RF 24-70 f2.8 IS - 900g (but admittedly that's got IS)
Sony FE 24-70 f2.8 GM - 886g
Canon EF 24-105 f4 L Mk2 - 795g
Canon RF 24-105 f4 L - 700g (ie RF is lighter)
Sony FE 24-105 f4 G - 663g (ie lighter than the RF, just)
So the Canon DSLR 24-70 lens is lighter than the Canon and Sony mirrorless versions. But with the 24-105 lenses, the Sony is lighter than the RF, which is in turn lighter than the EF.
Telephotos:
Canon EF 70-200 f2.8 Mk3 - 1440g
Canon RF 70-200 f2.8 - 1070g (not sure how they saved that much weight but it's also a smaller package in your bag)
Sony FE 70-200 f2.8 - 1480g
Fuji XF 50-140 f2.8 OIS - 995g (70-200 equivalent)
Here the Canon mirrorless lens is lighter. But there's a third party option. Tamron's 70-180 f2.8 for Sony mount, which is 815g. Sony also has an f4 lens which is 840g.
Body weights:
5DMk4 = 890g (6D is 770g)
R5 = 738g
RP = 485g
A7III = 650g
X-T4 = 607g
Looking at what might be in my kit bag:
My current DSLR kit:
6D, 16-35mm f2.8 L Mk1, 24-105L = 2040g
Canon RP, 15-35mm f2.8, 24-105L = 2025g
IE, not much weight saving
Other options:
Sony A7 Mk3, Sony 16-35 f2.8 GM, 24-105 = 1993g (could make it lighter switching to the 16-35 f4)
Sony A7 Mk3, Tamron 17-28mm f2.8 and 28-75mm f2.8 = 1620g (with Tamron lenses for comparison, these are also cheaper, but don't have stabilisation)
Fuji X-T4, 10-24mm f4, 16-80mm f4 = 1510g
Fuji X-T4, 10-24mm f4, 16-55mm f2.8 = 1725g
A definite weight saving with the Sony/Tamron combo or with the Fuji/f4 lenses.
* all weights taken from DPReview.com
Canon don't have any other RF f4 L glass out yet, but it'll be interesting to see what they are like in terms of size and weight. I came to the conclusion that using older lenses on adaptors wasn't really something I wanted to do, even if it does work. I don't have any do or die lenses that I'd really miss.
Obviously it's not all about weight, it's also about the user experience and that's another thing entirely.
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