Considering jumping ship..

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Right, for a few weeks now I have been debating whether or not to come away from my Sony a77 and go full frame. I'm not sure if I should stick with Sony and go for the a99 which is sure to be coming down in price with an a99ii coming soon (also I can get a brand new a99 for £1200 with a full warranty). My other option, as I'd need to get a complete new set of lenses whichever system I go with. Is either a 6d, or a Nikon d610.. I really don't know which way to go.
 
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This probably wont help but I have moved from Nikon to Sony. :eek:
A had a Nikon D7000 paired with Battery Grip, Speedlight, 17-55mm f2.8, 12-24mm f4, 70-300mm, f4.5-5.6, 18-70mm and 35mm f1.8 lenses and accessories.

I moved to the Sony A7 as I belive FF mirrorless is the future and the whole package meets me needs :)

Are you definately looking to go FF?
What are the key features you like about your current setup which you want the future setup to meet?

I have no regrets ditching Nikon for the A7 as it ticks all he boxes for me.
 
The main reason I went for Sony was due to working for them at the time of purchase. Hence why I can get products at a very good price. The a77 has great image quality. However it can suffer in low light, as most apsc cameras will do. This is my main reason for going full frame. I was on the team while the a7 series were being created and they are truly impressive.

I do mainly portrait work and have done the odd wedding and event. The a77 has always done pretty well and I can't complain about it. But I'm just thinking full frame might just help me a bit in terms of noise control and low light shooting. I'm open to everyone's opinion :)
 
Where are you finding the A99 for £1200?!

I was planning on going FF too. I have lots of sony/minolta lenses but the majority are the older lenses so they are good for FF, 35mm digital and crop. I had it in the back of my mind that would be the way I'd go so I didn't really buy many crop lenses, just one or two of the cheap plastic bodied Sony ones. They're all A mount though.

The A77ii or the A99ii will be my next camera purchase I think. The a580 I have is so good that I haven't seen anything that is worth changing to as they're all several times more than I paid for the A580.

I have a minolta dynax 35mm film camera so I use that as my FF substitute (I'm cheap :) ) That's another route for a cheap FF fix if you don't mind the extra hassle of film.
 
Can you get me cheap Sony FE lenses and a flash? ;) hehe

So what do you think to the A7/A7R? Could it be a upgrade for you or do you need Jedi fast AF tracking and DSLR weight/size?
You could keep your existing A mount lenses and use them with the A7/A7R via adaptor?

If I had to pick a FF DSLR and mirrorless was out of the question, it would probably be Nikon D610 as its Nikon's smallest FF body. The D800e is a weapon though if you can afford it.

I vote Sony A7 but I would say that :rolleyes:
 
As a former employee I can still buy the items fairly cheap :).

I'm still undecided. I loved using the a7 when it was a pre production model. And I'm sure it has been refined even more. Size is key too. I like a bigger camera for some reason, even though I'm not exactly a giant. That's one thing I wasn't sure of with the emount range. I'm definitely not ruling it out though as I've seen the outstanding image quality.
 
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As a former employee I can still buy the items fairly cheap :).
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You will suddenly have so many new best friends ;)

I'd probably wait and see. Sony seem to be bringing out a lot of new models and it would be annoying to jump ship to Nikon then find Sony have just released the exact camera you wanted!

I'm only interested in A mount as they have in body IS. The E mount solutions don't. Do you know why they don't? Is there a technical reason or is it a product differentiation reason?
 
Its a tricky situation when picking a new camera.... I have been though it myself, however the Nikon D7000 was a very reliable bit of kit and I will miss certain aspects of Nikon.
For me the numbers added up and it was a worthy upgrade to move form Nikon D7000 to the Sony A7.

Think about how much it would cost to move away from Sony and what lenses you would need?
The D610 produces wonderful images but so do a lot of camera's out there.... if you prefer DSLR size/mass then the A7 might be too small, maybe with the battery grip it would feel more DSLR like? ;)

I would go and try out a Nikon and Canon DSLR body and see which one fits better in your hands, as both have slightly difference ergonomics.
Also try out the A7 too :)
 
It's exactly that. To separate the products in an already confusing market. Also to keep the cost of the body down and offer a cheapish way into ff.
 
My lenses would all have to go anyway as I'd need to get full frame lenses. This is why I'm open to changing systems. The only thing I have other than the lenses really are my flash guns.
 
I'd price up both options and see if the cost to change is worth it whether you stay with sony or switch to Nikon.
 
It does sound like your in a good position to switch should you wish.

I'm quite heavily invested in sony lenses and would need to go A99(II?) as a full frame route.

Personally Nikon or Canon full frame wouldn't work for me as I need a flippy uppy screen and I love full time continuous live view.
 
what lenses you got? some dt lenses cover full frame...
a a99 would give u a stabilized sigma 50mm 1.4 and 35mm 1.4, which is pretty nifty
 
Dom7 said:
It's exactly that. To separate the products in an already confusing market. Also to keep the cost of the body down and offer a cheapish way into ff.
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Dom7 said:
My lenses would all have to go anyway as I'd need to get full frame lenses. This is why I'm open to changing systems. The only thing I have other than the lenses really are my flash guns.
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So, staying with Sony means you can get a new FF body cheaper, but then you're having to replace all your lenses anyway - I presume again, at a discount ? So it's a big hit financially whichever way you go ?

Personally, I would look at this 2 ways...

First from a financial aspect, what is it going to cost to replicate what you are after with Canon and Nikon compared to Sony - especially as you say you get a discount from Sony...(Oh and don't forget, you have to pay for IS in the lenses with Canon / Nikon, which can be more expensive)

Secondly and probably more importantly, I would try the other bodies out - you have used Sony and are obviously comfortable and happy with it, you need to see if the Canon / Nikon bodies suit you, do they feel okay, can you manage the button layout, what about the menu system, is there something they do which is better for you that the Sony doesn't - or the Sony does, that these don't...

And don't forget, the grass isn't always greener on the other side (esp on the dark side :D)

Hope this is of help...
 
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So, staying with Sony means you can get a new FF body cheaper, but then you're having to replace all your lenses anyway - I presume again, at a discount ? So it's a big hit financially whichever way you go ?

Personally, I would look at this 2 ways...

First from a financial aspect, what is it going to cost to replicate what you are after with Canon and Nikon compared to Sony - especially as you say you get a discount from Sony...(Oh and don't forget, you have to pay for IS in the lenses with Canon / Nikon, which can be more expensive)

Secondly and probably more importantly, I would try the other bodies out - you have used Sony and are obviously comfortable and happy with it, you need to see if the Canon / Nikon bodies suit you, do they feel okay, can you manage the button layout, what about the menu system, is there something they do which is better for you that the Sony doesn't - or the Sony does, that these don't...

And don't forget, the grass isn't always greener on the other side (esp on the dark side :D)

Hope this is of help...
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Thanks for your input. That's exactly right. Most if not all of my lenses would have to go. Yes I can still get the Sony equipment at a good price so I'm still fairly tempted to stay put. But essentially I just want great low light and snappy af. The lenses I'd put on the Sony would obviously be the G and Zeiss variety. I guess I'll just have to see if I can get my hands On a few of these models to test them out.
 
Dom7 said:
Thanks for your input. That's exactly right. Most if not all of my lenses would have to go. Yes I can still get the Sony equipment at a good price so I'm still fairly tempted to stay put. But essentially I just want great low light and snappy af. The lenses I'd put on the Sony would obviously be the G and Zeiss variety. I guess I'll just have to see if I can get my hands On a few of these models to test them out.
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No problems Dom

I went through a similar thing with my FIL quite a few years ago when he wanted to get into DSLR systems - he'd shot with Konica Minolta for a long time and was used to them and how they worked. I've shot with Canon and was very happy, so I let him try my camera out and we had a good look round at different options, in the end, he's stayed with Konica Minolta and subsequently bought a Sony body as he could use some of the lenses he already had (to keep costs down) and the system was second nature to him - as well as having IS in the body, which was a bonus for him...

Good luck with your search :)
 
Ooooh what a dilemma. The same one I had a couple of years back just before the A99 came out. In the end I swapped from the A77 to D700 then to the D600. The price of the A99 just put me right off. I still think it's overpriced compared to it's competition even if I do love the EVF.

But in your shoes if I could get a significant discount I'd stay with Sony.

Unless of course you can live with using second hand lenses in which case there are many bargains out there.
 
Thanks for all your advice. I do love the evf and LiveView etc. I guess there are pros and cons to each system. I can get money off the Sony full frame lenses too. Which usually brings the price down to the going rate of a second hand lens. What a dilemma!
 
Dom7 said:
Thanks for all your advice. I do love the evf and LiveView etc. I guess there are pros and cons to each system. I can get money off the Sony full frame lenses too. Which usually brings the price down to the going rate of a second hand lens. What a dilemma!
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That's not a dilemma, it's a no brainer :D
 
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