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So, I'm selling my D200:( and with the proceeds of that, and of one of my other cameras, am going to be getting a D300s. BUT that was the plan til I found that prices for a new D7000 are similar to a s/h mint D300s. Would I notice much improvemnet?

The 720p and ext mic video of the D300s would be fine for me, so the movie aspect is not important. I know its mag alloy build, but what is it really like? Is there a noticeably difference between them? And how does the high ISO stack up? Are there any D300s users that bought one of these/replaced it?

View are MUCH appreciated - as this will be the largest amount I have ever spent on a photographic purchase!:eek:
 
Im a D3S user and recently bought a D300S to use as a back up, used it once and sold it on, the D300S DX is rubbish high ISO compared to FX so im now buying a D700 as back up, personally i would never have used the D300S above ISO 1250, beyond that it's terrible.
 
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Im a D3S user and recently bought a D300S to use as a back up, used it once and sold it on, the D300S DX is rubbish high ISO compared to FX so im now buying a D700 as back up, personally i would never have used the D300S above ISO 1250, beyond that it's terrible.
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But I've got the D5000 and am very happy with the high iso - 4000 is often fine! Surely they are very similar, having the same sensor? Of course, you are coming from a D3s :love:, but it can't be that bad can it..?

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i try keep the d300 below iso 1600 for birds as its ok for cropping and with nr looks good, isos up to 6400 are fine if not cropping and the exposure is spot on,
but the 1.5x crop does come in handy and i coulndt live without it, as for iso 1600 and up the d700 is miles cleaner and i dont worry about it at all even iso 8000.
heres a sample of the d300 at iso 6400 striht from camera.
http://i727.photobucket.com/albums/ww272/scottthehat/d700/d300iso6400.jpg
p&p done
http://i727.photobucket.com/albums/ww272/scottthehat/d700/d300iso6400done.jpg
d700 iso 12800 straight from camera.
http://i727.photobucket.com/albums/ww272/scottthehat/d700/iso12800.jpg
p&p done
http://i727.photobucket.com/albums/ww272/scottthehat/d700/iso12800done.jpg
all in all the d300 is a great camera and is a different tool for a different job, wildlife i still use my d300.
 
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The D300 will feel very familiar after the D200, the D7000 might take a bit of getting used to and feel less substantial.
 
the d7000 is quite small and if you are used to something a bit bigger then the 300 will be the choice.
 
Although internally the D7000 has the newer tech, it feels more consumer than the pro-styling and button layout of the D300. The D7000 is a nice piece if kit but using the D200/300 body is more up your street
 
lawrenceots said:
But I've got the D5000 and am very happy with the high iso - 4000 is often fine! Surely they are very similar, having the same sensor? Of course, you are coming from a D3s :love:, but it can't be that bad can it..?

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I suppose it depends how you define "fine" and whether you are using in camera processing ? I find on my D7000 when using ISO 3200 that I have to post process the RAW images to clean up the noise.
 
i bought a 300s last year and have never looked back, i checked out the 7000 when it was released and even though it seems a fantastic camera the 300s felt more substantial... i bought the MB10 grip to go with it which is brilliant with the bigger lens i.e. nikkor 70-200mm ... i love the camera and would recommend it to anyone i dont personly use it at a ISO any higher than 800 as i do mostly landscape so im afraid i cannot comment on this.
 
Both great cameras, the D7000 is newer technology and from experiance I found the images a tad better but you won't notice it until you creep into the higher ISOs where the D7000 shines. However the D300 does feel more pro and durable.
 
Which layout do you prefer? I would personally stick with the usability of the D300s.
 
Thanks for all the advice :thumbs: Well I reckon it'll be a D300s then, as I love the handling of the D200, and I'm sure the quality will be more than enough for me then. TBH, I don't really go that high up the ISO scale - just ocasionally, and even then 6,400 seems plenty really! @ Beardy - If you see th recent shot I posted of the rabbit, that was at 4000 ISO, and with no noise reduction at all. I'm going into the camera shop on Wednesday, so will have a look at both then.

Thanks guys :)
 
lawrenceots said:
@ Beardy - If you see th recent shot I posted of the rabbit, that was at 4000 ISO, and with no noise reduction at all. I'm going into the camera shop on Wednesday, so will have a look at both then.

Thanks guys :)
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Just had a look...I see you have done some PP on it but it still seems like it has quite a bit of noise to me? Especially in the background. I do not pretend to be an expert at all (very much the opposite in fact) and have only really been playing around with high ISO's in the last month or so since I got my D7000. I generally use high ISO's for taking pictures of my kids indoors and have found that the images definitely need some PP to help with the noise. As an aside I notice you are using Aperture...I have Aperture too and having done some reading the NR is definitely a known weak point (being polite)....I have just trialled LR3 and Nik Software's DFine 2.0 plug in for Aperture. Check out the latter you might be pleasantly surprised ;)
 
yeah, I reckon I need to up my standards! I always thought that was pretty good noise control, but the more I think about it... :thinking: Yes, I sometimes use NR in Aperture, but just the manual brush - and that tends to blur quite a lot too!

I'll give those a try, thanks :)
 
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