D600/D610 + New lenses or D7100

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I'm a fairly experienced photographer but as yet haven't made the move to FF...i do the occasional wedding and promotional shoots with some portrait work mostly using Nikon primes.

Most of the time the D7000 has been a good servant but it's AF system isn't perfect and has let me down occasionally especially in low light, i assumed the obvious move was to a D6x0 but it appears to use the same focussing system albeit with better low light ability.

The move to FF is going to be expensive as i plan to do more work going forward so 2 bodies will be needed (instead of just borrowing a second) and all new lenses which is some outlay.

Today i read an article from a wedding photographer who was using a D7100 instead of the D6x0 becuase of the superior AF system on the 7100, something that's everything to me as its all about picture quality and hit ratio.

So I could potentially 'upgrade' to a D7100, get more keepers, better high ISO images, improved video and retain all my current lenses, keep the 7000 as a backup body and use the very tidy 1.3x crop feature on the D7100.

In reality what am i losing by not going going FF over the 7100 apart from an awful lot of money ?

The cycnic might wonder if FF exists mostly to allow Nikon to make bigger margins ?

Anyone else had this conundrum...

tia,
Mike.
 
Not offering advice but would just say the new unproved D7200 is supposed to have better AF
 
mikeyw said:
n reality what am i losing by not going going FF over the 7100 apart from an awful lot of money ?
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Not a lot in real world usage and for you there would be no point in going to the D6X0 as the AF system is the same although I find it perfectly fine with the centre point but the others are rather naff.
 
If it's af and ISO within Nikon full frame I d suggest the d750.

D600 can be had at decent prices but there is the oil issue and the af may not be much better than you have now.
 
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Sir SR said:
If it's af and ISO within Nikon full frame I d suggest the d750.

D600 can be had at decent prices but there is the oil issue and the af may not be much better than you have now.
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The AF will be worse as its the same system spread over a larger sensor. The AF points are very close and all in the middle part of the D610 frame.

Get a used D800/D810/D800e or D750.
 
The AF was better on the D7100 but for ISO I didn't see much of a improvement over the D7000. As been mentioned above get a D750 if you want to see a big improvement. I have owned all three and the D750 is a fantastic camera.

Nikon are dropping the prices for there FF cameras and for me unless you shoot wildlife I think the FF cameras are worth the slightly more money over the D7200/1 crop models.
 
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Swanseajack said:
The AF was better on the D7100 but for ISO I didn't see much of a improvement over the D7000. As been mentioned above get a D750 if you want to see a big improvement. I have owned all three and the D750 is a fantastic camera.

Nikon are dropping the prices for there FF cameras and for me unless you shoot wildlife I think the FF cameras are worth the slightly more money over the D7200/1 crop models.
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To go 750 it'd be £2.5K for a couple of bodies and another £1500 in good glass - it just doesnt stack up financially for me unless i went full-time
 
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If you're wanting better ISO capabilities then the D7100 isn't (imo) really any better than the D7000. The AF is slightly better but i never really struggled with the D7k tbh.

What is stopping you upgrading slowly? You don't need to spunk £4k on it all at once. The D7k will make for a fine back up/second body, especially with the 35mm on it. Run a second hand D800 (£1k) or new D750 (£1200) with the 85mm and you'll be good to go. Especially for portraiture. The 85mm is one of the best lenses ever made imo, i really enjoyed mine.
 
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To go 750 it'd be £2.5K for a couple of bodies and another £1500 in good glass - it just doesnt stack up financially for me unless i went full-time
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If you went to HDEW you can get the body for £1275 and a 35mm FX lens for £400. You then have 35mm, 50mm and 85mm plus the 70-300mm is on it's way. Thats a good set up for your uses, and some togs only shoot with those prime lengths. So the outlay I have suggested is £1675.00 approx plus you can sell your 18-135 and 55-200 for approx £200 and your outlay is down to £1475.00

The only thing you may want to change is to a 70-200 f2.8 in time. And use your D7000 as a back up.
 
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Seems as if me and Minnnt were posting at the same time.
 
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mikeyw said:
I'm a fairly experienced photographer but as yet haven't made the move to FF...i do the occasional wedding and promotional shoots with some portrait work mostly using Nikon primes.

Most of the time the D7000 has been a good servant but it's AF system isn't perfect and has let me down occasionally especially in low light, i assumed the obvious move was to a D6x0 but it appears to use the same focussing system

tia,
Mike.
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The D700 is still very good and except for birds and Wildlife when I like the extra DX reach, I would always chose it over the D7100 - (speaking from my usage of D300/D7100/D700 and now D750) ..... and looking back at my D700 and comparing them
 
Thanks guys - i was under the impression FF and DX might not complement it each other that well so images would be noticeably different which isn't ideal if using 2 bodies at a wedding....or is this a misnomer ?
 
mikeyw said:
Thanks guys - i was under the impression FF and DX might not complement it each other that well so images would be noticeably different which isn't ideal if using 2 bodies at a wedding....or is this a misnomer ?
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The difference between the two is the Field of View (FOV) they are both capable of being used for weddings, etc............. Use the D7000 & 35mm you have and swap lenses around on the FF camera for the lower light work. You will get a feel of which lens to use after using the set-up after a while.

As an example a 35mm lens on your D7000 will have a similar FOV as a 50mm lens on a FF camera.

Heres a quick google of the FOV difference between the two > http://www.slrlounge.com/school/cropped-sensor-vs-full-frame-sensor-tips-in-2/
 
Thanks Simon - maybe i was unclear but i thought the end results might look slightly different between the two formats leading to inconsistencies in the resultant images. If you use 2 x 750 bodies you know end results will be fairly identical.

Still i'd imagine in PP you'd be able to get them close enough with enough work
 
mikeyw said:
Thanks Simon - maybe i was unclear but i thought the end results might look slightly different between the two formats leading to inconsistencies in the resultant images. If you use 2 x 750 bodies you know end results will be fairly identical.

Still i'd imagine in PP you'd be able to get them close enough with enough work
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minnnt said:
If you looked at two pics and one was dx and one was fx, would you be able to tell them apart if they were took under normal circumstances? Hardly. Especially if you're the client. Just my opinion of course.
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Sorry I mis-read your question.

As David has said, you may see some differences due to your experience especially at higher ISO's where the D750 will be cleaner, but after applying PP they will look similar for your clients. As you know, the D750 will really come into it's own in low light situations, it will focus in the dark, it's that good.

You will find that each brand will have a similar look/feel of there own. For me it's best shooting RAW with Nikon, Fuji are great for SOOC JPEG's etc.................

Have a look at Ross Harveys review of the D750 with the FX 35mm Lens> http://www.rossharvey.com/reviews/nikon-d750-review
 
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Another thought is the D7200 (D7100 with dongle) and the D750 have the ability to send photos to a tablet or laptop which might be useful at a wedding.

The only concern I have about using different bodies is the controls are in different places. You really don't want to have to look away from the viewfinder when changing settings.
 
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