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Had the Kiev in the car this week with a view to seeing if it goes or stays... 3/4 roll gone by this afternoon (should've took it to the footie match!) but wanted to develop tonight so hiked out with big dog and finished the roll. got home, watched film with #1 son (F&F2, cool) and then started warming things up with an eye to cooking and playing. Rewind film, noticing oddly that the counter was on 25 not 35-ish as I had expected but no matter - easy enough on a Kiev to knock the dial I thought. All ready to throw the film into the bag with everything else when I took the film out of the camera...and noticed some damned fool idiot amateur had filled the camera with an OOD Kodacolour Gold 24 exp at 200ASA... so now not only have I got to sort the 'kin' Tetanal out again, I gotta pull the film a stop too 'cos I could have sworn I had Retro 400 in there :wacky:
 
:shake::shake::shake:
 
Oooops. Well I'm glad I don't make silly amateur mistakes like that eg buying a cine light meter instead of a stills one. :D:nuts:

Andy
 
Andysnap said:
Oooops. Well I'm glad I don't make silly amateur mistakes like that eg buying a cine light meter instead of a stills one. :D:nuts:

Andy
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Well he probably made the same mistake when he bought it ;)
 
excalibur2 said:
Well he probably made the same mistake when he bought it ;)
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Shame on you :bat:

TBH though no, I did not check and (like Andy I guess) didn't even realise Weston made a different model for the film makers... which is why the auction said it was a Cine one!


Anyway, that's not the worst of this thing with the film... go on - see who'll be the first to guess what the *real* damfoolidjit thing was :nuts:
 
Oooh blimey, theres more?

Andy
 
Oh aye - from sublime to ridiculous :eek:
 
***go on - see who'll be the first to guess what the *real* damfoolidjit thing was**

erm well I've never used a Kiev camera...givus a clue
 
It's not camera-specific :(
 
Nah, I'm stupid yes - but not *that* stupid... not for the whole roll at least :D
 
While we're on Confessions of an Idiot, the first proper job I was trusted with as a photographer's assistant was photographing a work's group. I was given a Hasselblad superwide with separate viewfinder and told the location. I noticed a few smiles among the large group but put it down to the usually factory banter of a large crowd. On the way back a creeping unease came over me and when I looked in the case, rising panic. I'd left the lens cap on for two rolls of film.

I had to set up the whole thing again. I can only imagine he was charging a cheap rate for the job otherwise they'd have got someone else in.
 
do you have 2 kievs, Arthur. And unloaded the wrong camera ( or better still, sold off the wrong camera - so someone else has your unfinished Retro...)
 
No - much more simple than that... think BW
 
Did you develop it as a b&w instead of colour?

Andy
 
No - not developed yet. Not sure if it would be worth it, because... ah, that'd be telling :D
 
You've had a colour filter on it to improve contrast.
 
:clap: Yup, you got it... Yellow one, so likely not going to be worth developing anyway :shrug:


Arthur :bang:
 
A few weeks ago I got 2 cameras mixed up, the 100 I shot at 400 and the 400 got shot at 100......I don't think I can be arsed launching any kind of salvage mission...:cool:
 
Ambermile said:
:clap: Yup, you got it... Yellow one, so likely not going to be worth developing anyway :shrug:


Arthur :bang:
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Huh to find out! £1.98 at Tesco or if you have a scanner will develope only for 99p....and a cast can be removed in Photoshop.
 
Not in Norfolk you can't...
 
Tesco ya dang fool - no minilabs in Tesco in Norfick. Do try and keep up...
 
yeah. been there a while now since we ran out of coal... :shake:
 
Retired? I thought they wuz all still fighting in Castleford?
 
I used the word retired rather than more politically incorrect phrases to describe what happened to the mining industry and the communities around here... my actual feelings are not suitable for exposure in a public forum :shrug:
 
I guessed that... mine are pretty much the same tbh... and then the other side get in and do the same.
 
Not really Ujjwal - I'm for nuclear now anyway despite the oil industry paying me too much money for a job I love :D

(It's the only energy we can make in this country rather than piping it in and relying on other countries for power)
 
not so much Coal vs Oil - more just memories of living in a village where 80% of the men in the village worked in the mines, and overnight became not only unemployed, but in many cases unemployable. On a personal level, it fell just right for my Dad, as he'd probably have had to left the job through ill health within 6 months of when he was made redundant, however, on a larger scale, the entire community fell apart.
 
TheBigYin said:
more just memories of living in a village where 80% of the men in the village worked in the mines, and overnight became not only unemployed, but in many cases unemployable.
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There never was a Plan B, was there? Devil take the hindmost market economics at their most unpalatable. Now we import coal from Poland.
 
Just to add fuel to the fire :D, the UK coal industry was dying, if not dead. The events simply gave it a decent burial.
The trouble is, such events invariable cripple a generation of workers. But thats the beauty of free market.

Importing things that you might be able to produce - but at a higher cost, is simply good economic sense , really. And, barring national security, almost always a good idea.

I do think though, nuclear combined with energy efficient technology is where the tax money for energy importers should go - not to the coffers of oil producing countries.

As I said, I might be adding fuel to the fire. You have my explicit permission to shoot me at sight.

Statutory disclosure : Like Arthur, the oil industry pays me to do something I love doing. :D

PPS : what has any of this got to do with the fact that apparently you cannot colour correct a photo in Norfolk :D:D
 
ujjwaldey8165 said:
Importing things that you might be able to produce - but at a higher cost, is simply good economic sense , really. And, barring national security, almost always a good idea.
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Call me an unreconstructed old pinko, but is that a wise decision? It might ultimately lead to, say, 20% of the UK population exercising their choice to buy marvellous things from the four corners of the globe while the other 80% languish in poverty.

What Britain doesn't seem to be able to manage is a staged withdrawal from one economic situation to another. Most decisions are based on brinkmanship, political vendettas and shows of strength rather than pragmatism, and that's true of both 'sides'. We choose binary yes/no, good/bad solutions to problems, linked directly to the likelihood of remaining in office. Railway privatisation was a case in point - unprecedented sums from the public purse sunk to pay dividends to shareholders to run a network that isn't joined up, on a political whim. Roads need 'investment', rail has to be 'subsidised'. I'm afraid we've succumbed to the myth of choice over quality.
 
I could actually rebut almost all your assertions ( with the possible exception of railway privatisation, or even worse, water privatisation- I think these decisions will prove very costly to the tax payer), but others might get bored and want us out.
Public policy is a fascinating subject, and I really love discussing it. Maybe we would meet up some day, and talk about it over a pint of beer. That said, I think you are being harsh on UK politicains. Actually UK is far better ( assuming you are not a free marketeer, for whom UK is much too socialist for its own good).
 
I'm afraid I don't subscribe to the idea of 'progress' which is necessary to believe in the free market, preferring the more realistic notion of 'change', a less morally loaded term - we gain one freedom and forfeit another. Research suggests happiness (surely the only human goal worth attaining?) is only vagely linked to economic wellbeing and countries with low GDPs have a more content population.

This forum may well be evidence of that, lacking the backbiting and aggression of other boards while dealing with defunct, obsolete, old fashioned and comparatively ineffective photographic tools.
 
colpepper said:
I'm afraid I don't subscribe to the idea of 'progress' which is necessary to believe in the free market, preferring the more realistic notion of 'change', a less morally loaded term - we gain one freedom and forfeit another. Research suggests happiness (surely the only human goal worth attaining?) is only vagely linked to economic wellbeing and countries with low GDPs have a more content population.

This forum may well be evidence of that, lacking the backbiting and aggression of other boards while dealing with defunct, obsolete, old fashioned and comparatively ineffective photographic tools.
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Lentilist :LOL:


Edit: Oops - just noticed your location :LOL:
 
colpepper said:
Research suggests happiness (surely the only human goal worth attaining?) is only vagely linked to economic wellbeing and countries with low GDPs have a more content population.
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I very much doubt the validity of such hocus-pocus research, coming as I do from a country of very low GDP. And I was neither happy nor content when I had to count my pennies before buying a bottle of the cheapest rum twice a month - and that when I was very well paid in a national oil company.

I also believe the primary goal of human being is creation of wealth. Happiness is a much over-rated concept, and has no universal definition.

As we have established, we do have a fundamental difference in opinion on the matter. I only interact with society as an economic animal - other than that I have very little to give or take.
 
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