Downgrading from 7D to 60D

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hi guys,

Bit of advice. I currently have a 7D which I use to take pics of the kids on holiday and at weddings. I wont say im a professional but more of a hobbiest.

Firstly is it a wise move and would I miss anything if I decided to do this.

Secondaly has anyone done it?
 
Just wonder why? won't be quids in also don't forget the cost of new batteries and memory cards
 
Well i maybe able to walk away with about £400 which I could spend on say a new lens. Ive factored the costings etc and other than making a few bob I cant see any negatives.. But i have this horrible feeling that if I did swap i`ll be left with this hole that`ll make me feel sick afterwards..
 
If you don't need the money then DON'T do it.

You can always grow into the 7D like yer mam said when you where a kid.

You have a superb camera, although you might not need all the bells and whistles I can guarentee if you sold it you'd suddenly find a need for them.

£400 won't buy you a stunning lens, probably something pretty good on the secondhand market.

Save you pennies and get the glass as and when you can.
 
Difficult one. You're not going to see much difference if any in your shots, but the 60D is going to feel very plasticky compared to the 7D.You made the effort to find the dosh for the 7D, so you must have wanted it?

I wouldn't do anything rash - sleep on it at least.
 
Thanks Chris - thats the sort of response I was looking at to keep it. Im not in too much desperate need of money!! But i thought it was a bit of an expensive piece of kit to keep for the odd days out and about!

Any other views from the other side of tthe fence!
 
faddy said:
Thanks Chris - thats the sort of response I was looking at to keep it. Im not in too much desperate need of money!! But i thought it was a bit of an expensive piece of kit to keep for the odd days out and about!

Any other views from the other side of tthe fence!
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Or you could take it out more?
 
I agree - I used to spend alot of time out witth the camera but nowadays I really do not get the time (work and life balance).
 
As others have said, unless you're really hard up for the cash I'd hang on to the 7D and keep your eye out for some decent 2nd hand glass.

Long term I would think the 7D will hold it's value better than the 60D (working on the basis that there are probably more 60Ds in circulation) so if you did reach the point where you need to sell your camera you'd be better off selling a 7D ;)

Having owned mine for 4 months now I wouldn't dream of downgrading it :love::love:
 
Thanks for helping make the decision to keep it.. I asked my wife and she said sell it in a shot and spend the extra money on her..
 
Say you are thinking of downgrading the wife for a lower maintaince one ;)
 
From what you shoot you won't notice any difference by dropping to the 60D apart from in your pocket.I would't bank on £400 though.There aren't many second hand 60D's so you could be looking on buying brand new.Second hand prices for the 7D are pretty good.I would be looking more at the £250 to £300 area.
Don't worry about the "plastic" comments.It's made olf very high qualty plastic on a metal shell.

Cheers
Gary
 
Russ77 said:
Having owned mine for 4 months now I wouldn't dream of downgrading it :love::love:
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I've had mine since March, it's just luuurvely :love:
I personally wouldn't go for a 60D, the flippy screen isn't going to benefit me I don't think, and the AF system of the 60D is basically a slight upgrade from my 400D. I need the pace and accuracy of the 7D for my sports stuff!
 
Cyprino said:
and the AF system of the 60D is basically a slight upgrade from my 400D. I need the pace and accuracy of the 7D for my sports stuff!
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From DPR... "The 60D's autofocus system isn't hugely impressive on paper - it has essentially the same nine-point AF system that first appeared in the EOS 40D, but it loses the ability of its immediate predecessor the 50D to apply AF fine adjustment. We had few problems with AF accuracy though, even when using the hugely demanding EF 50mm F1.2 L USM lens. Naturally, there is always the risk that playing with fine adjustment might cause more problems than it solves, but the simple fact that there is no longer any capability to fine-tune AF might be a deal-breaker for some users."
 
Thanks Chris - thats the sort of response I was looking at to keep it. Im not in too much desperate need of money!! But i thought it was a bit of an expensive piece of kit to keep for the odd days out and about!
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LOL try explaining a 40D, a 5D2 and a 1D3 , mind you they are getting the use they deserve on an ever increasing level.

Or you could take it out more?
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Bang on that man :D


Faddy

I agree - I used to spend alot of time out witth the camera but nowadays I really do not get the time (work and life balance).
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I've spent the last 16 years working my danglies off for a company who 2 months ago disciplined me for something that I didn't do and they could not prove. 16 years of hard graft to get my record blotted by a liar where I was working.

Please if there's any way you can, then redress the balance. I've been out recently more times with my cameras than I have done in years. The pleasure is returning in just waking up each morning and planing the next trip. This Saturday hopefully banger racing at Stoke, Sunday I'll see if I can get to Howarth for the 40's day.

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faddy said:
hi guys,

Bit of advice. I currently have a 7D which I use to take pics of the kids on holiday and at weddings. I wont say im a professional but more of a hobbiest.

Firstly is it a wise move and would I miss anything if I decided to do this.

Secondly has anyone done it?
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But would you then want to downgrade from your new 60D to a Point & Shoot?

If you must have its swingy-out screen then maybe, otherwise it would seem somewhat bizarre and costly :)
 
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hollis_f said:
Exactly the same as the 7D!!!
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I thought the 7d was mag alloy like the 1dx, 5dx and xxd up to the 60d?
 
odd jim said:
I thought the 7d was mag alloy like the 1dx, 5dx and xxd up to the 60d?
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Yes it is. The 60D doesn't have the mag alloy shell...
 
I've never understood this fetish for magnesium.

AFAIK the 7D has magnesium bits mostly covered with plastic whilst the 60D has aluminium bits mostly covered with plastic. Woopy Doo.

30 years ago I was fixing industrial stuff made of plastic and you could sit and hit it with a hammer all day long and not do significant damage to it so I suppose “plastic” may not be a derogatory term at all. Actually, I still have my very first camera, it's made of plastic and it's in as new condition and I've had it almost 40 years.

It's just my view but I think that I'll ignore the whole magnesium thing when choosing my next camera.
 
woof woof said:
AFAIK the 7D has magnesium bits mostly covered with plastic whilst the 60D has aluminium bits mostly covered with plastic. Woopy Doo.
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The impression I get from reviews is that the 60D is entirely plastic construction.

This is what dpreview (http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos60D/) has to say about it:
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Placing the 50D alongside the 60D it becomes clear that the new camera is not a simply a direct upgrade but a repositioned model. The most obvious difference is that it's smaller and, of course, no longer features a metal body.
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woof woof said:
I've never understood this fetish for magnesium.
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And it didn't exist until the launch of the 60D. As I said earlier - because the 60D was better than the 50D in all the important areas, the nay-sayers had to pick on something else. That's why the exchange of one metal for another became, in their eyes, so important.

Then, the people who form their opinions by reading what other people say on the interwebs start joining in with the complaining; despite the fact that they would have no idea how to differentiate one from t'other themselves.
 
There are big differences between the 60D and 7D. The 7D has a full magnesium body under the outer plastic shell - as does the 50D for that matter. The 60D is basically a 3 sided alloy constructed partial box forming the core strength, and the remainder of the inner shell is plastic. It doesn't mean it wont be perfectly serviceable but it's nowhere near as rugged as the 7D- the whole condept is that it has some of the features of the 7D but a less rugged construction to keep the price down.
 
jm2 said:
"The impression I get from reviews is that the 60D is entirely plastic construction." :nono: ;)
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Fair point... well made :D
 
arad85 said:
Fair point... well made :D
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Here's an interesting shot, comparing Nikon D7000 & Canon 7D.

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I remember reading a web page showing the construction of the 60D at about the time of launch, showing the 3 sided metal basic box. Damned if I can find it now but I did find this diagram on a foreign site. I don't know if this is the 60D, but I'm pretty sure it's very similar to the 60D construction.


construction by tonky8203, on Flickr

The parts in blue and red are metal - all the parts in black are plastic. Despite what that review says some parts need to be metal - the lens mount obviously needs to be metal to take the weight of any heavy lens you might want to hang off it.
 
some good info for me in this thread guys... appreciate the effort.. but ive decided to keep the 7d! :)
 
The 7D inner body is a work of art isn't it? I reckon they ought to put 'em out like that. :D
 
hollis_f said:
Er, Mg alloy is a metal :cuckoo:
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Yes I know. Someone was saying the 7d was the same as the 60d, and I stated I thought the 7d was mag alloy, hense metal.
 
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Don't. The reason I say that is that I read so many posts from people who have sold X piece of kit only to either really regret it, or buy it again when they can afford it. Unless there is a really really compelling reason for downgrading I would say, keep the 7D and save up the £400.

Just my 6 penn'orth.
 
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