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so, I've got the 450D with the EF-S 18-55 and 55-250 IS kit lenses

I've just started getting into film too, and bought an EOS 3 and EOS 5

these are both EF only and have just bought a EF 50/1.8 and a cheap EF28-90/4-5.6 for now

I'm looking ahead to go full frame digital too, maybe a 5D MK 1 to start, but want to upgrade my lens collection 1st

what I am looking to do is replace my EF-S lenses somehow with EF ones and without spending much money :lol:

I use the 2 zooms alot on walkabout, but dont mind too much swapping lenses every 5 mins if that would be a better option for IQ and price.

I am finding that the EF lenses are quite a bit more money than the EF-S ones and most dont have IS (in my price range) .... will I miss the IS if I get one without ?

I took the 28-90 out for a test the other day and wasn't too dissapointed with the images, but it only cost me £30 :-)

I was thinking maybe get a 90-300 to go with it, and go for a few primes as I can afford them...

any thoughts from those that have traveled this route already ?

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What about M42 lenses plus adapter? If you are short of cash, these can be had at reasonable prices! I got a box full of M42 lenses for £30, 9 in total. 6 were good quality lenses, 3 were for spares. Adapter cost £9 from feebay, with AF confirm. Something to think about?
 
If you want to see how you cope without IS, then turn it off for a few days on your current lenses
 
wontolla said:
What about M42 lenses plus adapter? If you are short of cash, these can be had at reasonable prices! I got a box full of M42 lenses for £30, 9 in total. 6 were good quality lenses, 3 were for spares. Adapter cost £9 from feebay, with AF confirm. Something to think about?
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I've been that route ... got a load of M42's and an adapter but not the AF confirm one.

works fine on the 450D but the metering doesn't work on the EOS 3 or 5.

I've ordered a chip, that you can add to the adapter - we will see if it solves the metering when it arrives :thumbs:
 
The main reason for going full frame is quality. Pretty much the only one actually. And as you have discovered, it's an expensive game. I don't really see the point of doing it unless you fit the camera with the best lenses you can get, which means something like the 24-105L for starters.

If you can't afford to go the whole hog in the reasonably near future, I would question the whole decision. You haven't put forward a reason for going full frame. Full frame also changes the effective focal length range of your lenses, which makes things difficult when trying to use lenses across two formats.

The other thing that is worth considering is, with respect, your novel move to film bodies. I woud respectfully say that this might be a fad, and when you have got fed up with all the faffing around and drawbacks of film, you'll be left without a compelling need for full frame.

All IMHO :)
 
I personally wouldn't consider any of the entry level zooms on a full frame body.. if you're on a tight budget primes are a much better bet for image quality and speed.

If you're after Canon A/F lenses try the 24/2.8, 35/2, 50/1.8, 85/1.8, 135/2.8 (Often a bargain second hand).
 
HoppyUK said:
The main reason for going full frame is quality. Pretty much the only one actually. And as you have discovered, it's an expensive game. I don't really see the point of doing it unless you fit the camera with the best lenses you can get, which means something like the 24-105L for starters.

If you can't afford to go the whole hog in the reasonably near future, I would question the whole decision. You haven't put forward a reason for going full frame. Full frame also changes the effective focal length range of your lenses, which makes things difficult when trying to use lenses across two formats.

The other thing that is worth considering is, with respect, your novel move to film bodies. I woud respectfully say that this might be a fad, and when you have got fed up with all the faffing around and drawbacks of film, you'll be left without a compelling need for full frame.

All IMHO :)
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Thanks Hoppy.

Film ... I am looking to make my own prints - yes , it may turn out to be a fad , I know exactly what you are saying :-)

Digital .... I pretty much think that with the cost of sensor manufacturing comming down, most consumer level camera will have full frame sensors sooner or later. FF lenes will work better on a FF or crop sensor than the other way around, so, as I am really just starting to consider good glass, as it were, I thought the FF choice might be a bit more future proofed :-$ , and , if I stick with film, the lenses will be good for both.

you pretty much summed it up in your 1st line ... "The main reason for going full frame is quality" :)

to be clear ... I am looking to get a couple of zooms of equal quality to my ef-s ones (which I will sell) to get me going, whilst I save my pennys for 1 lens at a time of 'pro' quality.


thanks again every one ... keep them coming :-)
 
Tricky69 said:
Thanks Hoppy.

Film ... I am looking to make my own prints - yes , it may turn out to be a fad , I know exactly what you are saying :-)

Digital .... I pretty much think that with the cost of sensor manufacturing comming down, most consumer level camera will have full frame sensors sooner or later. FF lenes will work better on a FF or crop sensor than the other way around, so, as I am really just starting to consider good glass, as it were, I thought the FF choice might be a bit more future proofed :-$ , and , if I stick with film, the lenses will be good for both.

you pretty much summed it up in your 1st line ... "The main reason for going full frame is quality" :)

to be clear ... I am looking to get a couple of zooms of equal quality to my ef-s ones (which I will sell) to get me going, whilst I save my pennys for 1 lens at a time of 'pro' quality.


thanks again every one ... keep them coming :-)
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The fundamental flaw in your argument is that full frame will become the norm. It will not, 1.5/1.6x crop is the preferred format and its position is stengthened with every new model getting better, and every new EF-S lens produced.

Full frame will always remain high end, professional, expensive. The format to watch is Micro 4/3rds which is now pretty good.
 
at least L lens will hold its money if you want to sell on.
 
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