First DSLR on a budget - my options

Thanks for posting this! £260 after cash back for a brand new D3300! Thats what I'm buying! Wont be until Christmas, but I like to plan ahead and research.

Thanks for all the help, I will go in to the shop and check I like how it feels tomorrow and let you all know!
There are two kits on jessops for around that price, it may be finding out if the VR kit lens is worth the extra £20. It definitely sounds good, I wasn't aware they had dropped so much. If the nikon feels good when handling it you probably couldn't go far wrong with either.
 
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I would back up the recommendation of handling these cameras before you buy. I tried a bunch and found the D3200 terribly cramped in *my* hands, eventually choosing the Sony a58. If you've been using a bridge camera then you would probably find the EVF of the Sony an easier transition than a typical DSLR with a relatively dim pentamirror viewfinder that doesn't provide a live view.
Definitely good advice. You should be able to try before buying at jessops. They usually have a few on display (there was quite a good display in the Milton Keynes jessops when I was in there today).
 
Get the vr kit lens it is better if you don't mind grey digital Rev and panamoz have good prices.
 
Seeing the Nikon D3300 is only £209 for body, sling on a low cost lens and throw camera over shoulder, or keep it in the car. Can't really go wrong at that price, gotta be worth a knocking about camera for that price.
 
So I went in to jessops and had a play with all the cameras they had, and the Nikon definitely 'feels' nicer than the Canon in my hands so I'm going for the d3300 :)

My new question is they have two options, the only difference being the lenses.

http://www.jessops.com/online.store/products/97016/show.html

This is the cheaper option, the only difference between this and the one £20 more is the lenses has VR.

As I'm already stretching my budget, do I need to spend the extra money? Is there a noticeable difference?
 
For £20 I'd have the VR. You might not need it all that often on a lens like this with a relatively short focal length, but you'll be glad you have it for those times you do.

Also, it's not a very wide aperture lens so the light it lets in is relatively small and VR can allow slower shutter speeds to compensate so that you can keep ISO low.
 
For £20 I'd have the VR. You might not need it all that often on a lens like this with a relatively short focal length, but you'll be glad you have it for those times you do.

Also, it's not a very wide aperture lens so the light it lets in is relatively small and VR can allow slower shutter speeds to compensate so that you can keep ISO low.

Thanks for a nice explanation, VR it is!
 
Just got my 3rd D3300 in 6 months,tried twice to wean myself off but I just love it with the 35mm 1.8 and goes in my Parka pocket
Im sure you will enjoy your camera,have fun
 
If you're just starting now you're in the enviable position of being able to consider mirrorless options before you commit to legacy mounts.
 
I have the D3200, as said, it has a great sensor, and while prices of 2nd hand have come down since the D3300 was released, it's still holding its price well.
I had similar budget to get my Daughter kitted up to finish her GCSE course, and start her A-Level, earlier this year.
I plumped for Second had D3100 for her, as best VFM.
It doesn't have the infra-red remote release, or quite the same pixie count, but the extra pixies on the D3200 are oft let down, I think, by the kit lenses, that cant really exploit them, so small odds, certainly to a beginner.
D3100's still packing more than you need to be getting on with, and bodies cheap, lenses 'spensive.. saving allowed me to partner her camera with the 'better' 35mm f1.8 lens instead of the kit 18-55, and still have a bit of change for a decent memory card...and that glass more than makes up for the difference, I think, and will be even better on anything she might upgrade to later.
Mentioned the IR remote.. neat toy if you have a tripod.. not much use elsewise.. and even though they made a point of selling the 'twin' IR sensors on the camera, one front, one back, so that you can be infront of behind it to fire by remote.. it still isn;t all THAT reliable if you aren't directly infront of behind! Doing some night time light-painting for her school-work, we got some interesting shots not knowing whether we'd actually fired the shutter.... a 100% reliable cable release, if you want/need that feature is only about £7 off e-bay.... so, saving on a D3100 over D3200 could leave enough the piggy for tripod and remote release, AND a 'fast' SD card.
D3200's higher sensor res makes BIG picture files. This begs a bigger capacity card, and means that you are likely to want a faster write speed. The 3100 does write significantly quicker than the D3200, which again was shown on that light-painting shot with the daughter; damn annoying waiting five minutes between shots for to fish 'noise reduction'... especially if you are looking at a black back screen wondering whether the IR remote has actually closed the shutter and it IS doing NR! So another bonus, you can get away with cheaper,smaller/slower SD cards with the D3100..
So, D3100 is more likely to be found in budget, and leave more of budget for useful extras, and for a first DSLR you are unlkely to notice much other difference.
 
Does the D3200 do bracketing? My number one peeve with the D3100.
 
I have the D3200, as said, it has a great sensor, and while prices of 2nd hand have come down since the D3300 was released, it's still holding its price well.
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Not so sure the D3300 is holding it's price! Jessops has some strange pricing. They have the D3200 body only for £219.97 but strangely they are selling the D3300 body only, for £209.00 after £20 cash back ! Going by that, the price for the D3300 will drop even more, so maybe not holding it's price very well!
 
Does the D3200 do bracketing? My number one peeve with the D3100.
I don't believe so. Is it that difficult to manually dial in +/- EV though if you want to bracket? I've always had bracketing so don't know how much of a PITA that would be tbh.
 
Sam,can recommend this you tube video of the general use of the D3300,
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmWBW8aZSS0

Watched the video, really helpful thanks for posting!

I have the D3200, as said, it has a great sensor, and while prices of 2nd hand have come down since the D3300 was released, it's still holding its price well.
I had similar budget to get my Daughter kitted up to finish her GCSE course, and start her A-Level, earlier this year.
I plumped for Second had D3100 for her, as best VFM.
It doesn't have the infra-red remote release, or quite the same pixie count, but the extra pixies on the D3200 are oft let down, I think, by the kit lenses, that cant really exploit them, so small odds, certainly to a beginner.
D3100's still packing more than you need to be getting on with, and bodies cheap, lenses 'spensive.. saving allowed me to partner her camera with the 'better' 35mm f1.8 lens instead of the kit 18-55, and still have a bit of change for a decent memory card...and that glass more than makes up for the difference, I think, and will be even better on anything she might upgrade to later.
Mentioned the IR remote.. neat toy if you have a tripod.. not much use elsewise.. and even though they made a point of selling the 'twin' IR sensors on the camera, one front, one back, so that you can be infront of behind it to fire by remote.. it still isn;t all THAT reliable if you aren't directly infront of behind! Doing some night time light-painting for her school-work, we got some interesting shots not knowing whether we'd actually fired the shutter.... a 100% reliable cable release, if you want/need that feature is only about £7 off e-bay.... so, saving on a D3100 over D3200 could leave enough the piggy for tripod and remote release, AND a 'fast' SD card.
D3200's higher sensor res makes BIG picture files. This begs a bigger capacity card, and means that you are likely to want a faster write speed. The 3100 does write significantly quicker than the D3200, which again was shown on that light-painting shot with the daughter; damn annoying waiting five minutes between shots for to fish 'noise reduction'... especially if you are looking at a black back screen wondering whether the IR remote has actually closed the shutter and it IS doing NR! So another bonus, you can get away with cheaper,smaller/slower SD cards with the D3100..
So, D3100 is more likely to be found in budget, and leave more of budget for useful extras, and for a first DSLR you are unlkely to notice much other difference.

The problem is I can just about find a used d3200 for £200-£210 or I can buy a brand new d3300 for £260 with a warranty.

And I looked at the d3100 and as stupid as it sounds I want something newer because... I don't really know I just do, stupid really.

Even though I can get more for my money second hand, getting a brand new and better camera for only £60 more is too tempting!
 
Watched the video, really helpful thanks for posting!



The problem is I can just about find a used d3200 for £200-£210 or I can buy a brand new d3300 for £260 with a warranty.

And I looked at the d3100 and as stupid as it sounds I want something newer because... I don't really know I just do, stupid really.

Even though I can get more for my money second hand, getting a brand new and better camera for only £60 more is too tempting!
Make no sense paying £200 odd for a second hand D3200, that has been used no idea of condition possibly no warranty. The D3300 works out cheaper in the end, plus nobody has used it plus full warranty. If you look on ebay, second hand D3200 / D3300 cameras that are second hand, go for higher prices than brand new. Reason is, people paid more for them a year or two ago..Wait a little longer, and they will probably drop another £20
 
At this end of the market, with so little difference in price, it makes no sense to go for the older, used model unless there's stuff missing from the new one.
 
Watched the video, really helpful thanks for posting!



The problem is I can just about find a used d3200 for £200-£210 or I can buy a brand new d3300 for £260 with a warranty.

And I looked at the d3100 and as stupid as it sounds I want something newer because... I don't really know I just do, stupid really.

Even though I can get more for my money second hand, getting a brand new and better camera for only £60 more is too tempting!

Welcome Sam to the forum.

Maybe of interest to you if you dont mind opening an account.

Very have the Nikon D3300 with the 18-55 VRii (new version lens) for £329.00..... but.........when you open an account and use pay later you can then claim 20% discount for your first order, bringing the bundle down to £263.00 then minus the Nikon cashback of £20.00 brings the total price down to £243.00.

Thats a lot of camera and lens for £243.00 and probably the cheapest deal around.


I have checked Camerpricebuster and the cheapest on there is £299 then minus the £20.00 Cashback = £279.00............> http://www.camerapricebuster.co.uk/Nikon/Nikon-Digital-SLRs/Nikon-D3300-with-18-55mm-VR-lens

Very Camera and lens. > http://www.very.co.uk/nikon-d3300-2...mm-vr-ii-lens/1378646654.prd?_requestid=56928

Very first Order. > http://www.very.co.uk/first-credit-order-discount.page

When you get the cashback from Nikon, just pay off and close your Very account.
 
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Why do you keep selling them so soon? :eek:
Because im stupid, bought a 6d then went back to fuji but i really missed the d3300.when i got it again on tues i was anazed just how light and small it is. Took some shots with the 35mm 1.8 brill , keeper this time, get one u cant go wrong
 
Because im stupid, bought a 6d then went back to fuji but i really missed the d3300.when i got it again on tues i was anazed just how light and small it is. Took some shots with the 35mm 1.8 brill , keeper this time, get one u cant go wrong
I borrowed my mates D3200 and I stuck my 35mm on it, great combination with some pretty good results. So I assume the D3300 will be even better :) . If the D3300 drops any more, I will probably get one and treat it as a low cost compact, as it is so small :)
 
I don't believe so. Is it that difficult to manually dial in +/- EV though if you want to bracket? I've always had bracketing so don't know how much of a PITA that would be tbh.
Depends what you want to do with the results and if you've got your tripod with you.
 
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Just passing Currys so popped in to have a nose at the D3300, very small and light. Hardly weighs anything, pretty neat though. Silly thing is, the D3300 is £20 cheaper than the D3200 :thinking:
 
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Just passing Currys so popped in to have a nose at the D3300, very small and light. Hardly weighs anything, pretty neat though. Silly thing is, the D3300 is £20 cheaper than the D3200 :thinking:
I forget how dinky entry level DSLRs are, not much difference to some CSCs.
 
It really is light and relatively small,i just put it in a small olympus bag i got with aan epl5 and sling over my shoulder,i sometimes have to check its not fallen out it feels so light and great image quality with the 35 mm
 
It really is light and relatively small,i just put it in a small olympus bag i got with aan epl5 and sling over my shoulder,i sometimes have to check its not fallen out it feels so light and great image quality with the 35 mm
I was saving the pennies to get a compact, but seeing the D3300 is so low cost and light weight and small, I may just get one in place of a compact. It is not much more bigger than some compacts, with my 35 mm lens attached.
 
yes plus i much prefer the handling viewfinder etc of the dlsr.ive had lots of compacts and keep coming back to the dlsr
 
yes plus i much prefer the handling viewfinder etc of the dlsr.ive had lots of compacts and keep coming back to the dlsr
Well it makes sense at the price, small neat and compact with a proper view finder. We have all been lusting after compacts so much, that compacts have shot up in price, while entry level DSLRs have plummeted.
 
D3300 bought on eBay brand new with kit lens for £205. Used the today only 20% off code CUKFLASH.

BARGAIN!

Thanks to everyone here for helping me choose! Its ended up being an X'mas pressie so can't play until then, but will be posting photos when I get it :)

Now that is a Bargain :)
 
Does the D3300 need a Firmware update? Seems the info on the LCD keeps flashing up, even though it is set to off. Seems it only happens on lenses at 70mm and above. It is what someone found on their D3300 and this was from last year. >> http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/forums/thread41768.htm
Check the firmware on your camera and then go to the Nikon site and look what the latest firmware. If yours isn't the latest then update it. If you have the latest one make absolutely sure there's not a hidden menu somewhere (there's all different settings for playback I believe), failing that try a camera reset.
 
Suppose it will not bother users who either keep the kit lens, or the 35mm 1.8G and never take it off. They will never know the bug is there, if it is a bug that is.
 
Check the firmware on your camera and then go to the Nikon site and look what the latest firmware. If yours isn't the latest then update it. If you have the latest one make absolutely sure there's not a hidden menu somewhere (there's all different settings for playback I believe), failing that try a camera reset.
I don't have that camera, I just saw that someone could not turn off the LCD info..
 
Check the firmware on your camera and then go to the Nikon site and look what the latest firmware. If yours isn't the latest then update it. If you have the latest one make absolutely sure there's not a hidden menu somewhere (there's all different settings for playback I believe), failing that try a camera reset.

Just had a look and it seems there are no firmware updates for the D3300 >> https://support.nikonusa.com/app/an...current-firmware-available-for-nikon-products
 
Simply wondering if there is a bug in the firmware, that is all :)
But why fret about a bug that may or may not exist for a camera you don't have? ;) :p
 
But why fret about a bug that may or may not exist for a camera you don't have? ;) :p
I am not fretting over it, I was thinking of getting one ( as mentioned in post 67 ;)) as a cheap throw in the car camera. Just strange no one else noticed the problem,..
 
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