Flash etiquette for gig photography

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Music photography seems to be something i'm getting more involved in and i'm shooting an AC/DC tribute band on saturday night in a small venue.
I shot at a festival last week that was no flash but was a well lit large stage so wasn't a problem.
I think this venue on saturday is going to be quite dark. I've got the Nikon 50mmf/1.8 and the Tokina 11-16mmf/2.8 but i still think i'd like to use flash, at least for a little of the time. I'd quite like to try some rear curtain sync movement type of shots.

I don't want to annoy anyone so is using the flash in a small venue going to be a problem or is anyone hardly going to notice?
 
Out of common courtesy you shouldn't use the flash when shooting toward the band. I avoid it at all costs. If a band objects there is a chance you won't be allowed to shoot in that venue again. Also, some punters get a bit annoyed too, so only use when absolutely necessary. Get a fast lens, high ISO and use the available light.
 
Alternatively, ask their permission before they take to the stage.
 
Alternatively, ask their permission before they take to the stage.

The band have contacted me and asked me to come shoot them so i'll be meeting up with them before they start playing.
I've seen "the rear curtain sync" style shot alot on other sites and it's something i'd quite like to try.
 
How about contacting the venue in advance to ask if they have a policy, if the band wants flash tell the venue you have spoken to the band, see what they say. Could help build a raport with the local venues :)
 
At the weekend I shot a live band and I took shots with flash and without flash and I much prefer the ones without the flash. If you can, don't use the flash.
 
I think it depends if you know how to use your flash effectively, if you dont you will just end up with bleached lifeless shots. But if you do you can get some wonderful stuff, just take a look at the stuff Mark Latham posted on here the other day.
 
Id say check it with the band first and see if their cool with it. If they have asked you to come and take photo's for them, id expect them not to have a problem with it.

If you are using it, try not to use it too much as it gets really annoying for the audience.

Thanks all.
Do you have a link please? I've had a quick look and search but can't see the thread.

Here it is: http://www.marklatham.co.uk/
 
if possible a nice subtle addition to the lighting is handy to reduce shutter speed and ISO-noise
however, I've seen people shoot right into the performers faces with a flash and I've wondered how they didn't get hit over the head with a fender.

would be interested in seeing your results :)
 
realy depends on the venue.
most pub type venues ive shot at dont mind some flash.
although i try to use it only when its REALY DARK, and i'm struggling even at f2.8 and 3200.
do use the odd long exposure and flash for arty shots. god if they move around a lot.
you should be ok with the lenses youve got, but you'll probably end up shooting wide open.
if its a real small venue, you may be able to bounce flash off the ceiling.
 
Thanks for all your help.
I didn't feel comfortable using flash in the end so i didn't.
I've posted the pics here for anyone interested.
 
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