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Soooooooooo... some of you may or may not know I've recently found myself in a position to be able to launch myself full time / self employed. I've found what I really enjoy doing - food. Aiming towards a more commercial side of things, ideally stepping away from family portraits, look at doing some editorial style corporate portraits and the like. During my down time (at the moment) I'm building up my foodie portfolio. Here's just a few. Not up to Michelin stuff, cooked in my own kitchen, but you'll get the drift.
Does it make your tummy rumble?
Thanks for looking, as always. Happy to take on board any feedback, the good, the bad, the ugly.
B

Potato! by Beth Botterill, on Flickr

Breakfast for Dinner - Blueberry Pancakes by Beth Botterill, on Flickr

Berries of Blue by Beth Botterill, on Flickr

Homemade Crackers by Beth Botterill, on Flickr

Spaghetti by Beth Botterill, on Flickr

Sweet Potato Fries &amp; Grilled Cheese by Beth Botterill, on Flickr


And before you say it, yes, my signature is in the wrong spot on this, but for now, it's what's on flickr. :)

Soft Pretzel Dough Pizza by Beth Botterill, on Flickr
 
I was going to mention something about trying different DoF's after looking at the first photo. All the rest are spot on!! I just feel a little more would be good in the first. I'm wondering if the spaghetti is a little under-exposed. 3,4 and 7 are very good and the third is my favourite. Good to see this sort of thing and food photography is definitely more difficult than it looks. Great set.
 
Bethy, for what it's worth, this where I think your processing really comes into it's own! Yes, all those images have made me hungry!! No. 2 is my money shot. 1, 5 and 7 I also think would benefit from a tad more DOF. They still make me drool, though..

EDIT: I actually had to go eat something after viewing this thread. You just cost me a 1/2 inch on my waistline!
 
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Any chance of some pull-back shots?

As for the photos, they're excellent. I absolutely love your portrait work but this is just as good
 
Wow, I've just eaten and you've made me hungry again. I would say these look - to me - like top notch cookery book shots. Take that as a compliment or not, but it's how I see them :)

I'm massively into cooking myself, so this is a bit of a perfect storm for me (if you could add in mountains or skiing, it'd finish off the trifecta!)

Having got all of that out of the way, the only possible (and this might just be me missing something) tweaks I'd dare to suggest would be:

1. Wonderful and shallow DOF works for me... some people might not realise they're potatoes, so not sure if a clue would be helpful, but the image is superb. They definitely wouldn't realise they were potatoes if I was anywhere near, because I'd have eaten them...
2. Pancakes look delicious and I love the background of butter etc. Really daft and tiny observation would be the bit of batter which looks slightly less cooked (but probably isn't) on the top pancake which is closest to viewer (may have been cooled by the blueberry) jumps out a bit... this is a real nitpick though.
3. Blueberries... this is a recipe book shot full stop. Awesome.
4. Crackers aren't quite grabbing me as much but I do like the "assembled" cracker bottom left which adds context/story. In fact, I wonder what it'd be like to reverse the area of focus - have some assembled crackers as principal subjects with the pot containing the rest OOF perhaps?
5. Spaghetti - wonderful (perhaps touch more light on the basil?) and maybe toss the spaghetti in oil&water before plating up so it has a sheen. Composition absolutely perfect and again suggestions are real nitpicks
6. Fries look delicious but for some viewers they might prefer them less roasted? Conversely, the top of the cheese toastie could go a bit further and maybe a blowtorch to caramelise the oozy bit. Nice hiding of the burnt side though... I do that when plating up too :p
7. Mini pizzas again the composition is just perfect. I love the oil on the basil leaves. Rosemary could do with the same, perhaps? Melted mozarella looks like melted mozarella - a touch textureless despite the caramelisation?

Seriously, these are exceptional shots and I've tried really hard to find miniscule ways to crit them. They don't need it - they're so close to perfect as is. I want to get cooking now!
 
Hmmmm yummy, no crit, just, could I have the recipies pleaseeeeeeee :D
 
Meh...


:) Wonderful as usual!
Not much I can add. The depth of field looks spot on. No need to increase it.
Colours look good. Food looks good enough to eat.

The only drawback I can think of is that you'll have to invest in different and funky serving dishes.
Ikea and Matalan do affordable modern stuff. It might be worth looking online.
Another reason is that it may inspire you to create new and interesting dishes.
 
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Those jacket potatoes look sumptuous, are they deep fried after cutting or just carried on roasting?
 
Number 2 for me and double helpings. Spag bol looks dried up. Good pictures though as I realise you probably did not cook the food

Did you read the opening post? :)
 
Ohh missed the self cooked so very impressed. Easy fix then splash of sauce or oil before serving.

To be fair, Bethy does say 'cooked in my own kitchen' and not 'I cooked them'.

Maybe Jamie Oliver popped in? :)
 
Appreciate the different POVs and framing.of each image. Gives each picture, when curated as a group, a "fresh" look so not a single one is boring. Nice job on PP. All very natural looking except for I question the yellowish syrup on the BB pancakes. Just my humble.

In all, very awesome. Now I am really hungry.

Marie
 
The lighting on these shots is pretty spot on imo give or take the odd area (I'd be ecstatic if I got that close). The food looks fantastically well cooked and the rest of the ingredients look good ie not bruised, battered or mouldy. Again, a very clinch eye could spot the odd stalk out of place. The two bits that don't do it for me are some of the liquid (oil or water) around the edge of plates/boards etc. My main beef (sorry for the pun) though is chopping off some of the food ie pancakes and spag bol. Fine, cutting off the edges of the boards or plates but not the food.

Take a look through the likes of Delicious or BBC Good Food mags as an example.

I'm not a bad cook but if I could produce the quality you have (certainly looks good but I clearly haven't eaten it) and topped it with your photography talent I'd be well pleased. However, I think you want to take it to another level and that means an extra level of attention to detail and probably through another set of eyes.

Good luck!
 
Cracking set of images Beth as usual.

I'm trying to lose a bit weight for my holidays and the look of your food is making me want to eat, eat and eat :(

Keep up the good work and all the best in your new venture.
 
Firstly, let me apologize for my lack of response(s) to your messages and feedback thus far... it's been a crazy week!

I was going to mention something about trying different DoF's after looking at the first photo. All the rest are spot on!! I just feel a little more would be good in the first. I'm wondering if the spaghetti is a little under-exposed. 3,4 and 7 are very good and the third is my favourite. Good to see this sort of thing and food photography is definitely more difficult than it looks. Great set.
Thank you Edward. You could be quite right about the spaghetti - But I also didn't want it to be a 'bright' picture either... need to find the happy medium.

Bethy, for what it's worth, this where I think your processing really comes into it's own! Yes, all those images have made me hungry!! No. 2 is my money shot. 1, 5 and 7 I also think would benefit from a tad more DOF. They still make me drool, though..

EDIT: I actually had to go eat something after viewing this thread. You just cost me a 1/2 inch on my waistline!
Thank you Dunc... and apologies. ;)

Any chance of some pull-back shots?

As for the photos, they're excellent. I absolutely love your portrait work but this is just as good
Thanks very much! I have a pullback shot of a typical setup... but my softbox placement really depends on what the food is, sometimes it's better back lit, sometimes it's better from the side... sometimes I'll use an extra diffuser over top of the softbox, and sometimes I'll throw caution to the wind and use my kitchen window to backlight. But here's one... and the result...
Pardon the mess... :)
bts by Beth Botterill, on Flickr
Soft Pretzel Logs by Beth Botterill, on Flickr

Wow, I've just eaten and you've made me hungry again. I would say these look - to me - like top notch cookery book shots. Take that as a compliment or not, but it's how I see them :)

I'm massively into cooking myself, so this is a bit of a perfect storm for me (if you could add in mountains or skiing, it'd finish off the trifecta!)

Having got all of that out of the way, the only possible (and this might just be me missing something) tweaks I'd dare to suggest would be:

1. Wonderful and shallow DOF works for me... some people might not realise they're potatoes, so not sure if a clue would be helpful, but the image is superb. They definitely wouldn't realise they were potatoes if I was anywhere near, because I'd have eaten them...
2. Pancakes look delicious and I love the background of butter etc. Really daft and tiny observation would be the bit of batter which looks slightly less cooked (but probably isn't) on the top pancake which is closest to viewer (may have been cooled by the blueberry) jumps out a bit... this is a real nitpick though.
3. Blueberries... this is a recipe book shot full stop. Awesome.
4. Crackers aren't quite grabbing me as much but I do like the "assembled" cracker bottom left which adds context/story. In fact, I wonder what it'd be like to reverse the area of focus - have some assembled crackers as principal subjects with the pot containing the rest OOF perhaps?
5. Spaghetti - wonderful (perhaps touch more light on the basil?) and maybe toss the spaghetti in oil&water before plating up so it has a sheen. Composition absolutely perfect and again suggestions are real nitpicks
6. Fries look delicious but for some viewers they might prefer them less roasted? Conversely, the top of the cheese toastie could go a bit further and maybe a blowtorch to caramelise the oozy bit. Nice hiding of the burnt side though... I do that when plating up too :p
7. Mini pizzas again the composition is just perfect. I love the oil on the basil leaves. Rosemary could do with the same, perhaps? Melted mozarella looks like melted mozarella - a touch textureless despite the caramelisation?

Seriously, these are exceptional shots and I've tried really hard to find miniscule ways to crit them. They don't need it - they're so close to perfect as is. I want to get cooking now!
Thanks so much for the detailed feedback - I appreciate you taking the time to look over each one. You're right about the pancakes - rookie mistake... I only found out when I went to slice into one and there was still a bit of 'goo' lol... batter too thick. Sigh...
The crackers looked better than they tasted, alas... but were extremely delish though with the cheese and the chutney, so you're right there.. should have concentrated on that more.
Right about the basil on the leaves, wished I'd gotten them to look more like the pizza basil. Thanks for the tip on the pasta, will try that again at some point.
The 'fries' were sweet potato - wanted them to have a real roasted look to them, but because they have a lot of sugar in them, it caramelizes and you get that almost 'over roasted' look to them... when they're cooked. These were baked in the oven, perhaps deep frying would be better. And yes, I burnt the grilled cheese. I got caught up viewing a thread online :p
The mini pizza's kept me up til midnight - lol. These are probably my fav.

Thanks again so so much detail to your feedback, all taken on board. :)

Hmmmm yummy, no crit, just, could I have the recipies pleaseeeeeeee :D
Haha thanks Graham. Secret's in the sauce.. (aka Google ;) )

A fab set !!!!! well done
Thanks very much Owen.

Meh...


:) Wonderful as usual!
Not much I can add. The depth of field looks spot on. No need to increase it.
Colours look good. Food looks good enough to eat.

The only drawback I can think of is that you'll have to invest in different and funky serving dishes.
Ikea and Matalan do affordable modern stuff. It might be worth looking online.
Another reason is that it may inspire you to create new and interesting dishes.
YES! I said that... I said to the husband we should go to Ikea!!! But he thought that was a dangerous idea because I spend way too much there when I'm there. I have been scouring for some quirky stuff... good plan on Ikea. I've actually ordered some new pottery from my friend in Nova Scotia, some custom East Coast Canadiana type stuff - but that's on a slow boat to China at the minute. Last I checked, it was travelling west across Canada to eventually travel east to the UK. :)

Those jacket potatoes look sumptuous, are they deep fried after cutting or just carried on roasting?
They're completely oven roasted actually... basted in a butter / olive oil mixture at several intervals. Cut before they go in the oven. They're called Hassleback Potatos although I was a complete numpty and called them Hassleblad on Instagram. I've since deleted that... @Sir SR caught me out on that one. Highly embarassing. lol.

Number 2 for me and double helpings. Spag bol looks dried up. Good pictures though as I realise you probably did not cook the food
I did cook it - but I'm no chef and I did struggle to get a nice sheen to the pasta. Thanks for the feedback. :)

To be fair, Bethy does say 'cooked in my own kitchen' and not 'I cooked them'.

Maybe Jamie Oliver popped in? :)
Ohhhh I wish... he's just 'a bit of that and a bag of chips!'. :)

Appreciate the different POVs and framing.of each image. Gives each picture, when curated as a group, a "fresh" look so not a single one is boring. Nice job on PP. All very natural looking except for I question the yellowish syrup on the BB pancakes. Just my humble.

In all, very awesome. Now I am really hungry.

Marie
Good catch - ran out of maple syrup, had to use golden syrup. Busted! :)

The lighting on these shots is pretty spot on imo give or take the odd area (I'd be ecstatic if I got that close). The food looks fantastically well cooked and the rest of the ingredients look good ie not bruised, battered or mouldy. Again, a very clinch eye could spot the odd stalk out of place. The two bits that don't do it for me are some of the liquid (oil or water) around the edge of plates/boards etc. My main beef (sorry for the pun) though is chopping off some of the food ie pancakes and spag bol. Fine, cutting off the edges of the boards or plates but not the food.

Take a look through the likes of Delicious or BBC Good Food mags as an example.

I'm not a bad cook but if I could produce the quality you have (certainly looks good but I clearly haven't eaten it) and topped it with your photography talent I'd be well pleased. However, I think you want to take it to another level and that means an extra level of attention to detail and probably through another set of eyes.

Good luck!
Thanks very much. I actually like that bit about leaving bits on the board / plates etc... personally I think it gives it a more natural look. But I appreciate what you're saying for certain. The chopping of the food, that doesn't bother me either. But again, I take on board what you're saying... it probably doesn't work for everything and has a time and a place. :)
Thank you very much for your fab feedback.

Cracking set of images Beth as usual.

I'm trying to lose a bit weight for my holidays and the look of your food is making me want to eat, eat and eat :(

Keep up the good work and all the best in your new venture.
Thanks very much Paul. Exciting times...

Again, thanks everyone for your wonderful feedback. It's all truly appreciated.

Beth.
 
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They're all fab and make the food look properly appealing. Even the blueberries.

My only question is whether your trademark lifted-black-point-processing thing is going to limit how successful they would be commercially. I can see that lots of folk would really go for it but perhaps it's time to develop another style so as to maximise your options? It's a tricky call, though, as you want to get known for a consistent style.

Sorry, not much help but something to consider.

PS what's your reflector clamp?
 
So many yums in here! :love:

I'll see you in an hour I'm moving in, the floor or tucked in a broom cupboard will do :D
 
Crackers and Spaghetti both look like they could use a straighten.
Whilst I like your processing, I don't necessarily think it is put to best use here. For me, the best shot is the soft pretzel dough pizza, but the potentially vibrant reds and greens look muted, and don't sing to one's appetite like they should.
The blueberries look spot on though, and your processing style looks a lot more suited to shots such as the homemade crackers.
Really good stuff though, and hope to see more in this series
 
They're all fab and make the food look properly appealing. Even the blueberries.

My only question is whether your trademark lifted-black-point-processing thing is going to limit how successful they would be commercially. I can see that lots of folk would really go for it but perhaps it's time to develop another style so as to maximise your options? It's a tricky call, though, as you want to get known for a consistent style.

Sorry, not much help but something to consider.

PS what's your reflector clamp?
Yes, it's a valid point and it's one I'm looking at... I've been speaking to a few people about it and I need to change it up a bit. :)

It's a Trigrip bracket... ;)
 
Crackers and Spaghetti both look like they could use a straighten.
Whilst I like your processing, I don't necessarily think it is put to best use here. For me, the best shot is the soft pretzel dough pizza, but the potentially vibrant reds and greens look muted, and don't sing to one's appetite like they should.
The blueberries look spot on though, and your processing style looks a lot more suited to shots such as the homemade crackers.
Really good stuff though, and hope to see more in this series
Thanks Matty. As I addressed above in Simon's @juggler's post, I know this is something I need to look it... post haste actually. I'll agree with you on the crackers, but not on the spagetti. :)
Thanks very much for your honest feedback, it's truly appreciated. I'll post a few up later that are less muted... I was shooting yesterday to that exact thing.
 
I always see these on flickr when you post them and they are outstanding! Thanks for the photos showing the "behind the scenes".
 
I always see these on flickr when you post them and they are outstanding! Thanks for the photos showing the "behind the scenes".
Thanks! And you're welcome! :)
 
I like those pictures, I'm thinking about food photography...lighting setting doesnt look complicated, thanks for showing this
 
Awesome pictures, now I'm hungry. The words rustic, wholesome, timeless, traditional and contemporary all spring to mind...
 
I like those pictures, I'm thinking about food photography...lighting setting doesnt look complicated, thanks for showing this
Thanks Kate. It's not complicated, I think it's more about connecting the subject with the viewer and creating something you can almost 'smell'... layers, textures, and using the light to emphasize those things.
 
All superb Beth, brilliant Job. I was reading down though the comments and believe simon has a valid point on the processing, but this all depends on what the images would be used for and the target market. I think this processing works well for advertisements, menu's, cover shots and home cooked items where a more stylised look is required. The one area the processing might have to change is for batch shots to be used in catalogues, it might be worth looking at wholesalers like South Links, 3663, Castel Howell to name a few and see how the suppliers present their images.

I would like to add the hardest part imo opinion is the food styling, which you have done an awesome job on. Wish I could style and shoot like this Beth, my employers would be extremely happy.

I would also seriously consider using your design skills to mock some adverts up for your portfolio as well.
 
I would also seriously consider using your design skills to mock some adverts up for your portfolio as well.
Thanks Neil. That's an awesome idea! I'm putting a book together, and I will be sure to include some mock adverts!! Thanks for the tip!
 
Exposure is definitely better from the original set you showed us. I like the chicken soup one for its high key effect although some might suggest it's over-exposed.

Perhaps some sort of vignette around the first and third, to try and enhance the wooden base? Not a uniform vignette at all though, sort of burning (as in dodge and burn). With the second I'd increase the contrast or add to the blacks a little more to show the texture of the fruits better.

Oh, I don't know. I'm floundering LOL - I really like these but it could be that my thoughts on more processing just muddle things up too much and you end up tweaking just for the sake of it.

Superb presentation though, whatever one thinks of the minutae of the photographic detail.
 
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