Frustrating, annoying, mad relations Grrrr!

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Around 18 months ago, one of our nieces asked us over, so that I could take some pictures of her young son. I did so, and they and the rest of her family were very happy with the results, and with the prints which I gave them (free of course), along with a disc containing about thirty images, all edited.
A month later they asked me to shoot the Christening, which I did, providing prints and a disc.
When I first started all this, I asked the niece if she minded me using them to build up a portfolio and use for practice editing, and she and her husband said that was OK, and they would also have a word with friends (at her toddler group), to see if anyone else was interested.
At around the time of the Christening, I also posted one image on Facebook (which I had joined simply to share images with half a dozen of our relations abroad, who are also direct relations of the niece). She was also happy about this.
Last year she had another child, and all of this was repeated again.
Then, around two weeks ago, my wife was speaking to her brother (the father of the niece in question), and he went into one about the images being all over Facebook, and if he knew that, then he would not have let me take any pictures (not even his child!).
It transpires that the pictures, were a result of his son getting the disc, and copying images onto Facebook so that his many hundreds of friends can see them (they are only ordinary portrait shots).
The brother in law is not backing down over this, and the niece is not putting him straight either, and to be perfectly honest, I don't want to be involved with them if that is their attitude.
They also have a large canvas print of one of my images hanging in their living room.
Am I right to be a bit "hacked off" about all of this?
Andy
 
Tell your BIL to stop reading the Daily Mail and to give a good reason why Kids photos should not be on Facebook?

And if he has an issue, he should have one with whoever posted the photos, not you.

And if he doesn't like it, can you have the photos, disc and Canvas back and you will refund any money that was spent on them.
 
You can be a pain in the backside over it as the son is in breach of copyright unless you gave your permission for use on facebook and if you contact facebook you can have the images removed.
You can also invoice for unauthorized use.
 
Tell your BIL to stop reading the Daily Mail and to give a good reason why Kids photos should not be on Facebook?

And if he has an issue, he should have one with whoever posted the photos, not you.

And if he doesn't like it, can you have the photos, disc and Canvas back and you will refund any money that was spent on them.



These were my feelings when it happened. I won't be asking for any of them back, but your first and second points were my main gripes.
Regarding the Daily Wail, they (and other tabloids) are the main reason why people are behaving like this. The family in question here, are not that intelligent, very materialistic and always try to get things done on the cheap or scam people.
Still, its their loss, they will have to look to someone else for freebies now.
 
I'm not keen on putting images of my kids on the internet (but fair play to those that are happy to do so) however in this case you seem to be getting the blame for something you didn't do?

If so your BIL needs to be put straight as someone has given him the impression that you are to blame which is just not on.
 
I'm not keen on putting images of my kids on the internet

But why? not trying to cause an argument here...... just interested in your reasons? :thinking:
 
I shoot for a local youth rugby team, amongst other things, so put around 150 pictures of children on the internet every week. Neither myself, nor the parents or club are aware of anything (daily mail) untoward happening with those picture and everyone is happy for this to continue.
 
You can be a pain in the backside over it as the son is in breach of copyright unless you gave your permission for use on facebook and if you contact facebook you can have the images removed.
You can also invoice for unauthorized use.

I'd go with this:thumbs:

Recently did some shots at child of one of my daughters friends birthday party - all parents were advised and permission requested - prints were done and given to parents but no originals given out on cd etc...... no problems;)
 
But why? not trying to cause an argument here...... just interested in your reasons? :thinking:

Personal choice, one reason is I believe internet images are capable of existing in the public domain for a considerable time possibly well into my kid's adult years and beyond, and I don't think it's my right to decide that for them.

Like I said; I respect the choices of others to post images of their kids, I just choose not to. :shrug:
 
next time you get a request from the in-laws for photo's ... just say... well, i think this time we ought to do it 'by the book'... so i'll gladly do the work for a fee for printed images, and shall we say £300 for a cd, then you can choose who has access to them. :shrug:
 
next time you get a request from the in-laws for photo's ... just say... well, i think this time we ought to do it 'by the book'... so i'll gladly do the work for a fee for printed images, and shall we say £300 for a cd, then you can choose who has access to them. :shrug:

i would do exactly the same! It just looks to me like your family is using you Andy. Next thing you know is they will ask you to take some pics at someone's wedding, but will charge you for putting these in your portfolio...
 
Its not your problem you didnt put the images up, tell them to get things in perspective
 
leftcurl said:
next time you get a request from the in-laws for photo's ... just say... well, i think this time we ought to do it 'by the book'... so i'll gladly do the work for a fee for printed images, and shall we say £300 for a cd, then you can choose who has access to them. :shrug:

I did just that with some of my relatives. Weirdly, they booked a session and paid up. I was rather surprised
 
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