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hi needing help to buy upgrade to fx my set up now is
Nikon d3100
Nikon 35mm x
Nikon 55mm 300mm x
nikon 18mm 55m x
Nikon 105mm ?
sigma 10mm 20mm love this ?
sigma 150mm 500mm ?

i'm thinking Nikon d800
Nikon Nikon AF-S Nikon 24-70mm f/2.8G ED
Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 16-35mm f/4G ED VR Lens for the wide end this is what i wont most
then later Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 50mm f/1.8G Lens

Nikon AF-S Nikon 24-70mm f/2.8G ED for low light every day night use
Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 16-35mm f/4G ED VR for landscape which i like thought about Nikon 14-24mm f2.8
but no filter and no protection buts me off

what's your thoughts thanks
 
chalky333 said:
what's your thoughts thanks
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First thought - you must have a lot of spare cash.

Second thought - would imagine you'd miss not having anything longer than 70mm
 
I would say its a huge jump from a basic entry level body to a pro level one. Why not upgrade to a better DX body so you can still use all your lens, and any FX lens you want to buy?
 
no got £3.500 lol and worked hard to get it this why am asking frighted to deaf of spending it and it all my savings but i love photography with passion
and i wont to enjoy it now not later
yes i would like to keep sigma 150 500 and Nikon 105 if it any good with the Nikon d800
is it silly to buy these two lenses
 
That's a HUGE jump. To go from the humble D3100 to the D800.

Have you considered moving to the D600 instead? I guess it depends on what sort of photography you enjoy doing.

But that's a serious list there.
 
Have read on the forums focus point are bundled to close to each other bit limited complant of oil dust spots so its but me of that
I like landscape but I like every thing to macro portraits any thing my brain think of or and wild life did't now if my sigma 500 would be any good or my nikon 105
 
chalky333 said:
Have read on the forums focus point are bundled to close to each other bit limited complant of oil dust spots so its but me of that
I like landscape but I like every thing to macro portraits any thing my brain think of or and wild life did't now if my sigma 500 would be any good or my nikon 105
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I bought a d600 off here and it's a really good camera, I've had no issues with oil or dust spots and the tighter focus points are not affecting me at all

I was wanting a d800 originally but I felt the price difference wasn't worth it for the slightly better specs for me
 
chalky333 said:
hi needing help to buy upgrade to fx my set up now is
Nikon d3100
Nikon 35mm x
Nikon 55mm 300mm xDx
nikon 18mm 55m xDx
Nikon 105mm ?
sigma 10mm 20mm love this ?Dx

sigma 150mm 500mm ?

i'm thinking Nikon d800Overkill (Unless you have aspirations to turn pro or print MASSIVE!
Nikon Nikon AF-S Nikon 24-70mm f/2.8G ED Yup!
Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 16-35mm f/4G ED VR Lens for the wide end this is what i wont mostIMO, you'll be better off with the 14-24, less overlap and faster.
then later Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 50mm f/1.8G LensI would get this sooner rather than later and to go for an older non AF-S version (cheaper and feels better built).

Nikon AF-S Nikon 24-70mm f/2.8G ED for low light every day night use
Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 16-35mm f/4G ED VR for landscape which i like thought about Nikon 14-24mm f2.8
but no filter and no protection buts me off

what's your thoughts thanks
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Rather than keep flipping up to your planned list and back, I'll just list what I would go for, although it will probably go over budget! You might consider 3rd party lenses rather than the Nikkors but test the copies you'll be buying...

Fx body (I would go for the D600 to save a few bob unless you need all those extra pixels)
UWA zoom N 14-24 or S 12-24
Standard zoom 24-70
Tele zoom 70-200
If longer is wanted, a 2x teleconverter to match the 70-200
Primes to taste (personally, I would go for just one fastish prime - a 50mm f/1.8. The extra fraction of a stop the f/1.4 gives isn't enough of a draw and the extremely shallow DoF of that and the f/1.2 is a challenge!) To the fast prime, I would add a Macro.
Maybe a flash?
Don't get too hung up over the filter limitations on the 14-24, pols are of limited value at wide angles and grads can be replicated using subtle HDR. Plain NDs can be fitted behind the rear element in gel form.
 
If like me your passion is landscape photography and can afford it then D800 is the holy grail at moment IMO, another thing you will need to consider if upgrading to D800 is the file size this beast produces and therefor your PC spec will need handle very large files when processing them.
 
kevin obrian said:
If like me your passion is landscape photography and can afford it then D800 is the holy grail at moment IMO, another thing you will need to consider if upgrading to D800 is the file size this beast produces and therefor your PC spec will need handle very large files when processing them.
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True, and of course this also applies to the D600 although to a slightly lesser extent. I was surprised how easily my iMac handled D800 raw files though. I was expecting it to chug along but that didn't seem to be the case at all. A TP member was kind enough to send me a raw file to play with, maybe somebody else would do the same for the OP to check their system is up to it.
 
D800 isn't really a massive jump. I found it demotivating to see people look down on this kind of upgrade. I went from similar D3100 to 5D mkII, people looked down on this, yet now I am making full use of every function of the camera.

What is written in first post looks good, it's what I'd buy if I were to get a D800. the Sigma 150-500 is the telephoto, 24-70 for walk about and then 16-35 for UWA.

There is a new Nikon 18-35 coming out, might be worth waiting as it will be smaller and lighter than 16-35. UWA lenses don't get used as much as the standard focal length, so having a light lens is quite important.
 
chalky333 said:
no got £3.500 lol and worked hard to get it this why am asking frighted to deaf of spending it and it all my savings but i love photography with passion
and i wont to enjoy it now not later
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In that case I'd go for a second hand D700 or high mileage second hand D3 as the worst that will happen is a replacement shutter, the rest should be built to last.

The two pro lenses should hold their value nicely and the 50mm is cheap and easy to sell on so all in all if you end up thinking you've made the wrong decision you should be able to recoup most of your money :)
 
wuyanxu said:
D800 isn't really a massive jump. I found it demotivating to see people look down on this kind of upgrade. I went from similar D3100 to 5D mkII, people looked down on this, yet now I am making full use of every function of the camera.

What is written in first post looks good, it's what I'd buy if I were to get a D800. the Sigma 150-500 is the telephoto, 24-70 for walk about and then 16-35 for UWA.

There is a new Nikon 18-35 coming out, might be worth waiting as it will be smaller and lighter than 16-35. UWA lenses don't get used as much as the standard focal length, so having a light lens is quite important.
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Have to agree with you there. I went from a D5000 straight to a D300 (pretty similar to a D800 in size/layout) as I wanted the extra controls the larger body gives. Seems entirely sensible to me or as sensible as any GAS purchase ever is.
 
gman said:
In that case I'd go for a second hand D700 or high mileage second hand D3 as the worst that will happen is a replacement shutter, the rest should be built to last.

The two pro lenses should hold their value nicely and the 50mm is cheap and easy to sell on so all in all if you end up thinking you've made the wrong decision you should be able to recoup most of your money :)
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Yep, this has always been my approach. Camera bodies plummet in value in comparison to lenses. I've always bought used and chop and change very frequently but I've lost very little over the years in doing so, other than my D700 which I lost £500 on in a year! I can see the appeal of buying new and those new sensors look very tasty but I cannot justify it to myself.

A D3 is a bargain right now. I've seen high mileage used ones going recently for under £1000 and sensible 'mileage' ones seem to be around £1200. I'd find it hard forking out for a D600 when D3's are the same price. A D700 is even cheaper, mine sold for under £800. I was gutted but the buyer got a bargain!
 
I got the most out of d3100 and I need to move on to progress and il be qick to work out the d800 the 16mm 35mm chose because iv got lee filter to fit 77mm adaptor and it more protected
Is my sigma 500 and nikon 105 ok with nikon d800
Thanks to all with the replays thanks
 
Nobody should ever have to explain their reasoning for wanting to upgrade. Nobody would question you if you jumped from a Ford Focus to a Ferrari - well, apart from "Did you win the lotto?" :D but not "Do you really need the extra power/speed?" - it's your decision.

Yes your 105mm is designed for full frame, it's a cracker of a lens. Just sold mine though, because I just wanted a longer macro, and also because I sold my 70-200 so it'll double as a tele. I get people asking me why the hell I sold my 70-200 .... well, I have reasons but now I say "Because, I wanted to!" ;)

I think your sigma is good for FX too, I've never used that one .

ANd I jumped from a D90 to D800 without blinking. I had the money, I'm good enough to use an FX camera, been shooting DX for many years, mainly because I couldn't afford the upgrade - so when I got the chance, why the hell not!?
 
wuyanxu said:
There is a new Nikon 18-35 coming out, might be worth waiting as it will be smaller and lighter than 16-35. UWA lenses don't get used as much as the standard focal length, so having a light lens is quite important.
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chalky333 said:
I got the most out of d3100 and I need to move on to progress and il be qick to work out the d800 the 16mm 35mm chose because iv got lee filter to fit 77mm adaptor and it more protected
Is my sigma 500 and nikon 105 ok with nikon d800
Thanks to all with the replays thanks
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Sounds like a good choice the new 18-35mm + 77mm thread for your filter you certainly have got money burning a hole in your pocket, enjoy :thumbs:
 
You could try renting your combinations above and see how you get on. That may cost you more in the long run, but at least you won't end up with something that you don't like or cannot use.
 
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