Help with filters for Canon

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I've been looking into getting a filter setup for my 7D, mostly to use with the Canon 10-22mm for landscapes. I found a great sticky on Beginner's Guide to Neutral Density Filters, on this site which helped me no end, but I'm still unsure, as to what I'm looking for.:shrug:

As with anything digital, there are numerous choices. I'm not a professional, so I wouldn't be paying massive amounts, but I don't mind paying that little bit extra for quality.

I like the look of the Lee & Cokin stuff, but I'm not sure whether to by a kit, or get separates? Could anyone give me a bit of help in pushing me the right way.
 
For landscapes you'll want some ND grads, a Circular Polariser (CPL) and possibly a solid ND or two (for silky water etc).

As your 10-22 is a wide lens you'll want 100mm size filters.

I've had Cokin Z Pro and Hitech and they were both pretty good. Lee are the best and are great to use but expensive.

If keeping the budget down I'd go for a 2 stop (or 0.6 as Lee call them) soft edge (for shots with less defined horizons) and a hard edge (for shots with a defined horizon, seascapes for example), and a Lee Foundation kit. Whichever brand of filters you go for I'd still buy the Lee filter holder (foundation kit) as it is the best. On top of that you'll need an adaptor ring for the lenses you want to use it on, IIRC the 10-22 is a 77mm filter thread, I'd go for the wide angle adaptor ring.

Lee do a starter kit with a 2 stop solid ND, a 2 stop hard grad, a holder and some cleaning bits.

The only bad thing about Lee is the lead times, they're struggling, so you may find it a struggle to find them in stock. Have a look on eBay, I bought most of my Lee gear off there.
 
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markmullen said:
For landscapes you'll want some ND grads, a Circular Polariser (CPL) and possibly a solid ND or two (for silky water etc).

As your 10-22 is a wide lens you'll want 100mm size filters.

I've had Cokin Z Pro and Hitech and they were both pretty good. Lee are the best and are great to use but expensive.

If keeping the budget down I'd go for a 2 stop (or 0.6 as Lee call them) soft edge (for shots with less defined horizons) and a hard edge (for shots with a defined horizon, seascapes for example), and a Lee Foundation kit. Whichever brand of filters you go for I'd still buy the Lee filter holder (foundation kit) as it is the best. On top of that you'll need an adaptor ring for the lenses you want to use it on, IIRC the 10-22 is a 77mm filter thread, I'd go for the wide angle adaptor ring.

Lee do a starter kit with a 2 stop solid ND, a 2 stop hard grad, a holder and some cleaning bits.

The only bad thing about Lee is the lead times, they're struggling, so you may find it a struggle to find them in stock. Have a look on eBay, I bought most of my Lee gear off there.
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Thanks for the info.

Could you tell me if this package is any good? http://www.jessops.com/online.store/products/71537/show.html
 
I've got the Lee Digital starter kit, but I think if I was doing it again I would buy separately. I would also look at getting a CPL filter to use with the Lee holder (105mm screw on, rather than square).
 
videonastie said:
I know this is a long shot, but have you got any pics of what it looks like on your camera?:thankyou:
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Hot off the press....

Bare lens.
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77mm adapter ring added.
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Filter holder added.
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Filter added.
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Filter inverted so that the sky is partly without filter and partly with the strongest filter in place. I've white balanced from the clear sky and you can see a slight magenta cast in the filtered part, confirmed by the coloured histogram.
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Strongest filter used the right way round and set up very roughly for a quick snapshot.
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100% crop, no edits other than a WB tweak. Hand held at 1/30 and 25mm, so perhaps not the best setup for ultimate sharpness when viewed at 100%.

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Thanks for everyone's help. I decided to go with Lee filters system. I purchased the Inspiring Professionals, which is a superb reference point.

Just need to get out & experiment.

Thanks again.
 
Peter10d said:
Get the Lee Wide Adaptor ring to avoid vignetting at 10mm on that lens. It is the only combination that I have found to work.
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that, and slim down the holder to 2 slots (3 at the very max)
 
Peter10d said:
Get the Lee Wide Adaptor ring to avoid vignetting at 10mm on that lens. It is the only combination that I have found to work.
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Got it, thanks.
 
hoolio said:
The problem you will have with that is vignetting at the wide end unless you use a slimline cpl in which case you will loose the option of screwing on any other bits.
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I use the 77mm hoya on my 10-22mm with only very very slight vignette at the 10mm end - you have to be looking for it to see it so i don't class that as a problem. Most of my landscape shots are shot at the wide end with a CPL and it doesn't show.

Not got one but the thin Hoya HD CPL is meant to be (i) thin but (ii) has threads for screwing in other filters too.
 
hoolio said:
Well I get vignetting with my B+W and I can't see hoya being much different also according to this the hoya slim cpl do not have front thread. http://www.hoyafilter.com/products/hoya/coatings.html
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Taken at 10mm (crop sensor 10-22mm lens which is what the OP stated):

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No vignette to see.

And another:

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Got countless more taken with the standard Hoya CPL at 10mm and none show any real vignette.

The Hoya HD thin filter does according to the Hoya site and resellers have a front thread as well.
 
gnirtS said:
Taken at 10mm (crop sensor 10-22mm lens which is what the OP stated):

Got countless more taken with the standard Hoya CPL at 10mm and none show any real vignette.

The Hoya HD thin filter does according to the Hoya site and resellers have a front thread as well.
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What filter were these taken with sorry? ND Gradient?
 
Having looked at several CPL filters, it seems the best options are quite expensive, to work well with the Lee Filters system.

The two in mind, which seem to be the best are....

B+W Kaseman Circular Polariser (B+W CP) : Studio Kit Direct - Professional Photographic Equipment Suppliers.

&

Lee Circular Polariser 105mm Rotating Glass Filter (CIRCPLGLS105) - wex photographic

Now I know the question "which is the best" has been asked for everything, but this is a lot of money, so I'm after an opinion from someone who possibly has used/owned either of these CPL filters & can offer any feedback?
 
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videonastie said:
Having looked at several CPL filters, it seems the best options are quite expensive, to work well with the Lee Filters system.

The two in mind, which seem to be the best are....

B+W Kaseman Circular Polariser (B+W CP) : Studio Kit Direct - Professional Photographic Equipment Suppliers.

&

Lee Circular Polariser 105mm Rotating Glass Filter (CIRCPLGLS105) - wex photographic

Now I know the question "which is the best" has been asked for everything, but this is a lot of money, so I'm after an opinion from someone who possibly has used/owned either of these CPL filters & can offer any feedback?
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My understanding is that the B+W one is coated and the Lee one isn't. I'm looking at getting the slim B+W one when I can afford it.
 
Craikeybaby said:
My understanding is that the B+W one is coated and the Lee one isn't. I'm looking at getting the slim B+W one when I can afford it.
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I spoke to Studio Kit Direct yesterday & this is what he said...

"Hi The b+w is without doubt the best polariser for the lee system, or any
other system, its made in Germany by Schneider optical. The kaseman is made from machined optical glass not just a piece of coated float glass , the Lee is not coated either, the heliopan is but we are waiting for stock"

Like you, I'm leaning towards the B+W. Not many places seem to stock it though?
 
What are MaxSaver.net like, as I've seen their name mentioned several times on this forum. They have the B+W 105mm Kaesemann MRC Circular Polarizer for a lot cheaper than any other sites?
 
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