Holga, what is the joke here

[R.Y.K. LEE]

R.Y.K. Lee - any relation to T.M. Lee?

p.s. - I don't think the OP was tarring everyone with the same brush - and didn't he later say that he has a Holga?

I understand where you are coming from with this, and I don't 100% disagree. The OP does not think it is worth the money, but would be more comfortable buying it if it were at a much lower price. He probably bought his, at a much lower price. But to call people are fools to buy it at the price it is currently at, is a little unfair. Like I mentioned, some people see it as money well spent. Especially if they genuinely use and love the product, what is so foolish about that?

I haven't bought an X100, I do feel it is a little bit on the expensive side. However, I am not going to call people who did or are going to buy one a fool for doing so. Like I said, some buy for status maybe, some buy for genuine purpose. But not all who buy the same product, are fools.

 

[FruitFlakes]

You will hear nothing of them a year from now, if people want to really try something (I have also tried and failed at, so I am honest) try pingold photography.

Lomography as a company have existed for quite a while, as have Holgas (and their popularity) actually. The earliest I've heard of one was four years ago, about a year before I actually started photography.

 

[JSER]

I'm trying to work out what a Fuji X100 has in common with a Holga - I do not have one but it actually looks quite a good compact camera. How many compacts actually have a prime lens these days - it's a trend I would welcome.

The missed comparison is exactly what another here has stated, some just have to have the latest craze, hoola hoop, Rubix cube, Holga camera.

I do wonder just how many of the X100s would have sold if certain magazines had said, a fixed lens camera with little potential and overpriced.

The Iphone ap is completely different, as it is part of a useful item, a phone, and no I do not want anything "I" thank you.

I still say as a stand alone gimic the Holga will pass into oblivion.

 

[JSER]

I He probably bought his, at a much lower price. But to call people are fools to buy it at the price it is currently at, is a little unfair.

The question was "Had I TRIED one!

I replied "Yes I have"

I didn't say I either had them or purchased them, another mis quote, aparently happens a lot on chat sites.

I said I had tried them, and believe me I would rather give my money to charity.

 

[oldandintheway]

Interesting??

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-15415264

Good on him

 

[R.Y.K. LEE]

The question was "Had I TRIED one!

I replied "Yes I have"

I didn't say I either had them or purchased them, another mis quote, aparently happens a lot on chat sites.

I said I had tried them, and believe me I would rather give my money to charity.

The reply was to weybourne I believe. "p.s. - I don't think the OP was tarring everyone with the same brush - and didn't he later say that he has a Holga?"

The reply from mentions that you probably bought one for much cheaper, if indeed you owned one as weybourne was implying. As you do not object to it being marketed at a lower price of £9.99

It is not my intention to cause a ruckus, there is no malice or anger that I wish to aim in your direction. All I am saying is that it is unfair of you to write a product off as expensive rubbish (in your opinion, in which you are entitled to have). What I do not agree with is passing off people who has bought one, as "fools". You do not know for a fact that everyone who has bought one of these cameras had bought it for street cred or as a short-lived gimmick/fad.

 

[weybourne]

p.s. - I don't think the OP was tarring everyone with the same brush - and didn't he later say that he has a Holga?

The question was "Had I TRIED one!

I replied "Yes I have"

I didn't say I either had them or purchased them, another mis quote, aparently happens a lot on chat sites.

I said I had tried them, and believe me I would rather give my money to charity.

The reply was to weybourne I believe. "p.s. - I don't think the OP was tarring everyone with the same brush - and didn't he later say that he has a Holga?"

The reply from mentions that you probably bought one for much cheaper, if indeed you owned one as weybourne was implying. As you do not object to it being marketed at a lower price of £9.99

As said, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Have you actually tried a holga?

Yes I have, the Holga 135BC and the blackbird TLR

Oh dear - my bad! Still I did ask the question rather than declare it! Sorry for any misrepresentation, JSER, and sorry if I caused any misunderstanding, R.Y.K. LEE.

And now my two penn'orth - fair enough to those that bought the product 'eyes-open' and - yeah, the ones who bought the product because it was fashionable (and I do believe that significant numbers have) - my opinion is that they are indeed fools in respect of that - but I wouldn't rule out any good coming of it, nor would I hold it against them.

 

[boogie man]

I much prefer my first camera!

My first camera by felix rufus, on Flickr

Is that a Boots Beirette? I had one of those. Got some decent pictures with it as well. Served me well for a few years until I graduated to a Praktica Nova.

 

[weybourne]

Yes it is!

My primary school had a photography club and I would enter the photo competitions with it - prizes were vouchers for the local camera shop - any winnings went on paper, chemicals and film - and my dad did the developing and printing in the blacked-out kitchen . Distant memories now, and I don't have any of those photos or the negatives

I left photography until my late teens when I spent some time with a Ricoh KR-10 (but didn't make much of it), then I got interested again a few years back - I really need to put a bit more time and application into it though.

 

[Richard King]

But it isn't 'just pure music' - it sounds nothing like what the live performance would have sounded like - it is full of distortions, frequency limitations, hiss and pop - your high-end hi-fi will do a much better job of conveying a likeness of the original sound. A lot of modern production techniques/equipment is there to ensure that such distortions are not present in the finished product. If the source that you're playing from has been aurally 'photoshopped' with auto-tune etc. beyond recognition of the original - then that's a different issue.

Some of the great music of the past is still with us in the form of 78s but because the music is a masterpiece, it doesn't follow that it is because of the recording technology that it is nor should it follow that the low technology made, in part, the music a masterpiece - the same goes with iconic images.

Surely there are other ways to avoid the 'crutch of after-production' without using film or purchasing a camera that leaks light like a collander.

I'm not speaking out against using a Holga - I just don't think it is such a wonderful thing.

I think it is a great example. Often the 78 recording process was mechanical, and pretty direct. I think that's what is so attractive about it, and why shooting a pinhole or a Holga is so attractive. All the thrills are removed, and if you care to, you can develop and print the images yourself.

When I pop on a 78, and wind up the handle on the gramophone, I get my happy face for hours. While it sounds mad, it hits me on so many levels - the music, the lack of gloss, the honesty etc.. The crackles, pops and hiss are a small price to pay for something that can cheer a room full of people up immensly

 

[JSER]

There is one very good thing about these cameras that I failed to consider though, moore foo l me.

I still use film and anyone wanting to spend a small fortune on a toy camera that encourages the continued production of film can't be all bad.

 

[redmonkee]

Just reads this thread and feel I have to jump to the defence of the excellent X100.

Yes you get more options of your money with 4/3 systems but what you get with the X100 is superb image quality in terms of sharpness and colour rendition and also the bokeh is way and above anything you can get on a compact camera.

I have it to compliment my 1D mkIII and I took it out at the weekend for a stroll round bolton Abbey with my girlfriend and it was so nice to be able to get DSLR quality images in a compact and lightweight and also inconspicuous camera body.

People who knock it without trying really should spend the time having a go with it to realise just what an excellent camera it is. Also being able to sync at above 1/1000 with my Canon 580EX is a superb feature and one I cant even do with my 1D3