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ill try and keep this short, right i have this home cinema which is a Samsung HT-TZ325R, and i would like to buy a samsung blu-ray dvd player but i would like to use my home cinema for the sound can i get a samsung blu ray to connect my speakers in the back of the blu ray player to make it a blu ray home cinema, or can i buy a blu ray and some how connect it to the tv through hdmi and then blu ray to home cinema via digital optical cable will this work. please help Guys.

this is my home cinema now http://www.samsung.com/ae/consumer/t...il&tab=feature

Cheers
 
link no worky and cant find it on the samsung site.

if the unit doesnt have HDMI passthrough/input then yes a optical cable will work. you wont get the full HD audio (only dolby digital/DTS depending on compatibility) but then if it doesnt have HDMI in it wouldnt anyway.

edit - just found it via google. optical will be the only way to connect to your speaker system. so HDMI to the TV (remember to mute the TV as sound may come out of those speakers too, depending if the blu-ray player puts sound down that and the optical at the same time) and optical to the speakers.
 
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Just found a couple of threads on AVF.

I'd consider getting rid and buying a blu-ray system or better still seperates.

You could still use the speakers just get a decent amp
 
Page 30 of the manual shows how to do it. Yes you would just connect up with a optical cable. Not Ideal though.
 
Just so you know that ALL blu-ray players whilst playing blu-ray ARE created equal.

Its in the upscalling of DVDs that makes adifference.

If I where you I would go for a cheap TESCO blu ray player and spend some money on a decent surround amp.


Sorry If i'm making assumptions on a lack of budget though
 
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na dont worry about that buddy, in fairness i didnt wont to spend alot i just wont to keep with samsung as i have a samsung tv and they connect together so i only have to use one remote lol if you know ** home cinema's could you recommend say 4 samsung blu ray home cinema's would u be able to do that for me.

also can you give me reason why you sed no idea to my home cinema and blu ray player connected through digital optical cable so just i know reason why its not the best as i'm not up with all this

cheers
 
also can you give me reason why you sed no idea to my home cinema and blu ray player connected through digital optical cable so just i know reason why its not the best as i'm not up with all this

cheers

probably because of what i said, the speaker system you have doesnt give you the best HD audio off of the blu-ray via HDMI. that and the 2 in 1 units are usually inferior to a dedicated amp.

but for budget and basic home use your unit should do the job.
 
My set up is something similar. I have a Samsung TV, DVD home cinema and a PS3 as Blu-Ray (swap PS3 to Blu-Ray)

I have the Samsung DVD home cinema connected to TV via HDMI, but I have the PS3 put through it via Optical audio (and freesat box) so everything plays through surround sound, AUX mode but had to tweak settings to get both sounding great. Best way I have found other than getting a blu-ray home cinema but not worth it.
 
Hi guys thats great help, i have to admit thats the sort of thing ive got, i got the samsung tv and home cinema, which ive got connected by optical and hdmi, then ive got xbox by hdmi and sky hd but hdmi and i have got them all sounding awesome but i was wonderin if i added a blu ray would that be abit much haha
 
Sell your xbox and get a PS3 problem solved:lol:


+1 to the above from neil
 
haha noooooooooo way, i have had both and i love my 360 compared to the ps3 only thing i like on the ps3 is the blu ray haha.
 
People still use silver discs to playback video and audio???? ;)
 
Hey don't knock silver disks, one member of the family still has a laserdisc player and collection :D
Why on earth would they want to keep that? Surely everything on that media is rotated through ITV2/3/4 on an almost daily basis ;) :D
 
If you have an optical out on the TV, then use that and plug the blu ray into the TV using HDMI.

That way all of your devices will work on the amp and you'll get 5.1 sound too

:)
 
If you have an optical out on the TV, then use that and plug the blu ray into the TV using HDMI.

That way all of your devices will work on the amp and you'll get 5.1 sound too

:)

Cheers i think thts *** i'm goin 2 doo thank u guys :thumbs::thumbs:
 
If you have an optical out on the TV, then use that and plug the blu ray into the TV using HDMI.

That way all of your devices will work on the amp and you'll get 5.1 sound too

:)
This doesn't always work. My TV doesn't output anything on optical when connected via HDMI (or SCART either I don't think).
 
oh rite i see, well at the mo i have the optical cable from home cinema to tv and that works for my sky hd box and my xbox just depends on what i'm using, so really it should work for the blu ray shouldnt it, what tv do you have buddy

cheers
 
Pioneer LX508. If it works for you, that's great :)
 
oh rite i see, well at the mo i have the optical cable from home cinema to tv and that works for my sky hd box and my xbox just depends on what i'm using, so really it should work for the blu ray shouldnt it, what tv do you have buddy

cheers


I have a 42" LG plasma, with an optical out, it does my ps3 and xbox with 5.1 sound :)
 
if you dont have enough inputs on the receiver, then the optical out from the tv should do the trick, passthrough to the amp will be fine. my old samsung 710 does 6.1 and sounds very good. HDMI on an older receiver might not pass 1080p signals though so be wary of that.

As for all bluray being equal, nope. read the reviews, some are better than others in playback, its all about the processing.

finally, shiney silver disks? beats downloads for me, downloads are fine until a) rubbish internet connection b) hard disk failure. I'll stick with maximum quality Bluray and full range music that apple hasn't neutered :D
 
As for all bluray being equal, nope. read the reviews, some are better than others in playback, its all about the processing.
Really? That's interesting. The codecs on a BluRay disc are bit perfect (that is, whilst the compression system is lossy, there's a defined output for a given input - the decode process should be identical on each player). For BR movies at 1080p, this should just get sent to the display digitally with no further processing (assuming you have a 24p capable display). If there is a difference, it's because it's messing with the signal before it gets output. Clearly playback of DVDs is subject to processing, and there would be differences here...

a) rubbish internet connection b) hard disk failure. I'll stick with maximum quality Bluray and full range music that apple hasn't neutered
All my silver discs are ripped either as 1080p or 720p (there isn't much of a difference TBH) with the audio track kept intact. All audio CDs are ripped as single FLAC files and are completely lossless. I do have a set of mp3 files ripped at the same time for use on a (non Apple ;)) mp3 player though.

Video playback is through a professionally calibrated Pioneer display (you do have a calibrated screen don't you?) whilst the audio chain is through a pretty high end stereo system (not surround due to the cost!). I don't even have a subwoofer - but I do have full-range speakers that each have a 15" bass driver. Far better to do 2 channels very well than several to a lower level IMHO.

As to HDD - I have an enterprise class filesystem running in RAIDZ (like RAID5 but more secure as everything is checksummed) with a hot swap disk ready to be swapped into the array should one of them fail. All silver discs are kept offsite and whilst it would be a pain ripping the darned things again, it would be possible.

The central filestore is accessible to both media centres AND wirelessly to the laptops. The media centres and laptops run the same software (xbmc) and all share a common imdb based database so it is possible to do things like "find all films with Tom Cruise" in (why you'd want to, I don't know). People can be in different rooms streaming anything on the store to their output device.

One of the media centres also has a satellite card in and acts as a central DVR (we don't have, or will ever have, Sky). It can be set to record series or one offs through a web interface which has a 14 day EPG in. I then recode the recorded files (this has only been practical for HD this year with the acquisition of an overclocked i7) and these are added to the filestore and can be viewed anywhere (again with full TV database information).

I admit I am not the norm though..... :geek: :help:

PS. Why does a dodgy internet connection come into it? Surely you aren't suggesting people download movies are you.....?
 
That reminds me I should really calibrate my plasma seeing as it's hooked up to a pc for movies (blu-ray rips to raid5 and backed up to raid0).
You have a Pioneer too don't you? Which one do you have? One tip - if you calibrate with a sensor, DON'T use full screen grey scales. One of the tradeoffs of consumer displays is that they have a very non-linear display brightness if you display full screen colours. That is, if most of the screen is dark and you display a white square, that white square will be brighter than if the whole display is displaying the same colour. Confused me for ages when I checked my calibration earlier in the year (it hadn't drifted much at all in the 3 years since I had it done).

Also, with a PC, you need to be wary of which range the TV is displaying. My Pioneer was displaying the output from my HTPC quite darkly until I realised it was auto selecting the TV range (16-235) instead of full PC range (0-255). On my Pio, you can force it to the space you want and doing this resulted in my movies having shadow details again.

Depending on which Pioneer you have, you may be interested in Control Cal (http://www.controlcal.com/) as you can actually alter the gamma curve and colour balances should you want/need to).
 
Thanks for backing up my blu-ray post.

I'm not sure if it still stood. But I remember reading a review on a very High end system that got rave reviews until it came out that underneath the outer case it was exactly the same as a low-mid range unit.

The early PS3's were very good at upscaling DVD's but that may not be the case with the newer ones.

I need to get my tv's calibrated. KRP600 and a KRP500 in the bedroom
 
I need to get my tv's calibrated. KRP600 and a KRP500 in the bedroom
Yes you do. Those screens are worth getting calibrated (and they have very good calibration capabilities).
 
Really? That's interesting. The codecs on a BluRay disc are bit perfect (that is, whilst the compression system is lossy, there's a defined output for a given input - the decode process should be identical on each player). For BR movies at 1080p, this should just get sent to the display digitally with no further processing (assuming you have a 24p capable display). If there is a difference, it's because it's messing with the signal before it gets output. Clearly playback of DVDs is subject to processing, and there would be differences here...

Perhaps im being a little vague, there are other things that affect user experience, power on time, processing speed for Java, the ability to update then add various post processing crap that some machines put on images, edge enhancements, colour control etc that impact on the final image quality - for 1080i most players just shove straight to TV, so if your TV sucks you'll notice, but more and more players deinterlace first. Players like the pany BD50 process images before sending unless you turn it all off. After image comes audio, again, processing is the key, some are not as good as others.

All my silver discs are ripped either as 1080p or 720p (there isn't much of a difference TBH) with the audio track kept intact. All audio CDs are ripped as single FLAC files and are completely lossless. I do have a set of mp3 files ripped at the same time for use on a (non Apple ;)) mp3 player though.
so you DO have the silver disks, just through a media server.

Video playback is through a professionally calibrated Pioneer display (you do have a calibrated screen don't you?)

yes I do, ISF calibrated, but then as I work in the custom install industry it would be silly not to.

whilst the audio chain is through a pretty high end stereo system (not surround due to the cost!). I don't even have a subwoofer - but I do have full-range speakers that each have a 15" bass driver. Far better to do 2 channels very well than several to a lower level IMHO.

I dont disagree, though personally i prefer to have the surround sound through a system. eventually it will be a dedicated room when i can get the kids to move out, however ive been in my fair share, rooms ive been involved in have won awards, which is nice.

As to HDD - I have an enterprise class filesystem running in RAIDZ (like RAID5 but more secure as everything is checksummed) with a hot swap disk ready to be swapped into the array should one of them fail. All silver discs are kept offsite and whilst it would be a pain ripping the darned things again, it would be possible.

The central filestore is accessible to both media centres AND wirelessly to the laptops. The media centres and laptops run the same software (xbmc) and all share a common imdb based database so it is possible to do things like "find all films with Tom Cruise" in (why you'd want to, I don't know). People can be in different rooms streaming anything on the store to their output device.

One of the media centres also has a satellite card in and acts as a central DVR (we don't have, or will ever have, Sky). It can be set to record series or one offs through a web interface which has a 14 day EPG in. I then recode the recorded files (this has only been practical for HD this year with the acquisition of an overclocked i7) and these are added to the filestore and can be viewed anywhere (again with full TV database information).

I admit I am not the norm though..... :geek: :help:

If you didnt have the silver disks, you would have to download it all again from whichever online provider you've bought from. Physical disks work best for me, I wont move away from them until i get the dedicated room, then ive got my eye on a nice media server, rack, crestron controller, Screen Research Screen, Procella speakers, sony projector and panasonic hardware

PS. Why does a dodgy internet connection come into it? Surely you aren't suggesting people download movies are you.....?

im talking about streaming, cant stand streamed stuff!
 
Perhaps im being a little vague, there are other things that affect user experience
Yup, that is very true.

add various post processing crap that some machines put on images, edge enhancements, colour control etc that impact on the final image quality
Yes, you can do all sorts to the image in the name of "image quality".

so you DO have the silver disks, just through a media server.
I do, but I don't use them any more.... For the last few years, I've only ever ripped stuff immediately it's in the house. I sold my CD player last year (a 1997 vintage CDS1 head unit - I kept the power supply for the DAC) and have never had a BR player (although the PC has a BR drive).

yes I do, ISF calibrated, but then as I work in the custom install industry it would be silly not to.
Teehee.. There are very few people I know that have a calibrated TV. Lots have calibrated monitors, but not TVs... But then you're cheating being in the industry.... ;)
 
I love it though, a finished room and the look on the owners faces when they are in it the first time is great
 
I love it though, a finished room and the look on the owners faces when they are in it the first time is great
I bet you do. I'd love to do it (and I think I'd be good at it too as I understand the technology and despite what may come across here, I'm reasonably good with people) but I'd be worried I'd make enough to cover my bills... Perhaps when Ms arad85 wins the lottery....
 
i think the CI industry in general struggles at the moment, unless the client has a good budget and is happy to be guided. a lot of the people ive worked with have a huge problem with customers changing their minds, having tiny budgets and generally being tight. Some of the stuff that ive seen has been £50k plus installs but the installers have struggled to get a good profit from it
 
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