Thanks guys, I'm wondering if I forgot to sharpen them as they do both seem a tad soft here :shrug:, I'll go back to them and have a look when I've got time.
We had another family in the courtyard today, a parent and two youngsters being fed, but by the time I'd spotted them the landladys' gardener has turned up and then it was strimmer hell, and they bugged out :shake:
Tara