how do separate mounts work?

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ok bare with me :)

So when you buy a frame with a mount you put your photo on the back of the mount and then put a backing board on next to kind of sandwich them together right. Then you place it in your frame

So what do you do if you want to sell a print mounted without a frame, do you just buy a mount and a backing board or are there special mounts that have a front and a back to them.
 
Perhaps tape the print to the mount and store in a clear acetate bag?
 
is that how people do it though? Any prints I have seen come in an enclosed mount
 
I believe these mounts are essentially an envelope with the appropriate hole cut in the fron tto display the pic.
 
an envelope,

so you slide the print into it from a slit or something?
 
You can get those photo mounts like the school ones where you slip the photo in between the sheets. They are quite expensive and only come in pre-set sizes, 7x9, 8x10 etc. You'll have to buy a box of 25 min.
If you are selling one of your prints and the mount is just to make it look 'nice' then choose a size that suits most off the shelf frames and cut the aperture to suit the image.
These are 'off the shelf' mounts with bags
http://www.cartersmounts.co.uk/prepacks.html
 
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This is the sort of thing you're looking for.

http://www.pfile.com/product/t-pfd810/8x10-Cardboard-Photo-Folders

You can get all sorts from very plain ones to ones with gilded ornate bits on them. I used to get through loads of these.I got them from Colab - now Peak Imaging I think? You should have no trouble finding a variety of these though from UK suppliers.
 
thanks CT.

those ones you linked to though, how does the person buying it then frame it with that mount? it has a little door on it, does that fold round the back or something?
 
If I am reading the OP correctly, do you want to know if I sell a print and the customer does not want a frame.... how do I supply the print?

I supply the print in a hard backed envelope. If they want it mounted, again this will be supplied in a hard backed envelope, only a bigger size to accommodate the mount.

If they want it framing, this will be sent in appropriate packaging with some kind of courier parcel service.
 
joescrivens said:
thanks CT.

those ones you linked to though, how does the person buying it then frame it with that mount? it has a little door on it, does that fold round the back or something?
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Well there's the envelope type shown in the link which sometimes have a cardboard pull out 'strut' on the back which enables you stand it up 'as is' - or you can get ones that don't fold at all - just a basic frame but again with a pull- out strut on the back.

If they want to put the photo in a conventional frame then they can choose to show some of that mount by buying an oversized frame. Hope that makes some sort of sense?
 
tiler65 said:
If I am reading the OP correctly, do you want to know if I sell a print and the customer does not want a frame.... how do I supply the print?

I supply the print in a hard backed envelope. If they want it mounted, again this will be supplied in a hard backed envelope, only a bigger size to accommodate the mount.

If they want it framing, this will be sent in appropriate packaging with some kind of courier parcel service.
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ok cheers,

here's the scoop. I am looking to display some of my photos in the local tourist information shop and I will be looking to give a variety of mounted and framed versions, the mounted ones should be ready to frame. But I don't like the thought of just having them taped to the back of a front mount - seems like they wouldn't be really well protected if you know what I mean. So I was looking for a solution where there is a front mount with the aperture and the back is secured with a second backing - is backing board the best way to do this, or the c or j strut mounts listed below

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Well there's the envelope type shown in the link which sometimes have a cardboard pull out 'strut' on the back which enables you stand it up 'as is' - or you can get ones that don't fold at all - just a basic frame but again with a pull- out strut on the back.

If they want to put the photo in a conventional frame then they can choose to show some of that mount by buying an oversized frame. Hope that makes some sort of sense?
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What happens to the pull out strut once the picture is framed? is it just pressed back up against the back?
 
joescrivens said:
What happens to the pull out strut once the picture is framed? is it just pressed back up against the back?
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Yes - its just a pre-cut cardboard flap you can press back in place..

Just to be clear Joe the pic just slides into the folder from the side and can just as easily be taken out - it's not fixed in any way.

If the customer wants to frame it then they can take it out of the folder and discard it (it's nice presentation and it protects the photo from creasing) then just frame it as normal.

Or just fold the front cover around the back and frame it showing some of the cover around the edges. It's bit naff but people often prefer to have the choice when it comes to cost. ;) The back will usually need a bit of padding anyway to ensure that the print sits flat against the glass with no wrinkles.
 
The safest way to frame any print of course is in a proper frame and with a mitre cut mount it looks the dogs dangles. The back should be sealed with tape to stop the ingress of dust. It's not cheap though and quite a bit more work.
 
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Personally I'm not keen on the "envelope" mounting method, I think it comes across as a bit cheap and low quality - I prefer to hinge mount mine choosing an external mount size that fits a standard frame - here's a link explaining a few different methods including hinging

http://www.framedestination.com/picture_frame_mounting.html


I buy the mount/backboard and mount bags from Cotswold Mounts - probably slightly cheaper to do it your self with a mount cutter but also much more time consuming


Simon
 
CT said:
Yes - its just a pre-cut cardboard flap you can press back in place..

Just to be clear Joe the pic just slides into the folder from the side and can just as easily be taken out - it's not fixed in any way.

If the customer wants to frame it then they can take it out of the folder and discard it (it's nice presentation and it protects the photo from creasing) then just frame it as normal.

Or just fold the front cover around the back and frame it showing some of the cover around the edges. It's bit naff but people often prefer to have the choice when it comes to cost. ;) The back will usually need a bit of padding anyway to ensure that the print sits flat against the glass with no wrinkles.
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gotcha

simonkit said:
Personally I'm not keen on the "envelope" mounting method, I think it comes across as a bit cheap and low quality - I prefer to hinge mount mine choosing an external mount size that fits a standard frame - here's a link explaining a few different methods including hinging

http://www.framedestination.com/picture_frame_mounting.html


I buy the mount/backboard and mount bags from Cotswold Mounts - probably slightly cheaper to do it your self with a mount cutter but also much more time consuming


Simon
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ok so you hinge mount to the front mount and then use adhesive backing board to "seal it" then put it in a mount bag

right?
 
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