How good is the Canon 1Ds...next to the 50d...?

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How good is the Canon 1Ds...next to the 50d...?

Is its full frame still good...?

Any common probs...?

Is the 50d as good as this...or is the 1ds old hat...?


THANKS
 
I have thought more than once about selling the 1ds and getting a 50D . But :naughty:


I am glad i still have the 1ds Its built like a brick the af is fantastic the FF is great.


That said the 50 is also very good but a slightly different kettle of fish imho..


not much help i know but have a bump on me..

md...:thumbs:
 
i suppose it would come down to what you shoot, both need decent lenses, but EF-S lenses can be discounted from your 1Dx camera. The full frame of the 1D will suit weddings / landscapes whereas the 50D will suit anything telephoto better. Both have great build quality.
 
I am seriously considering buying the 1Ds...

I am new to DSLRs...so any tip help would be great and appreciated...


I will be buying decentish glass anyway prob this to start with:

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di LD Aspherical (IF) Lens

AND

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II Lens


THANKS to all who help...!!!
 
Question is mate why do you want the 1ds :thinking:

What will you be shooting mainly:shrug:

what will the 1ds do that the 50d wont .


just a few to start you off mate.


md:shrug:
 
..MD.. said:
Question is mate why do you want the 1ds
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Yes indeed, particularly when you can have a D700, come to the dark side, you know it makes sense :D
 
The d700 is twice the price of the 1Ds...

I dont have any DSLR experience...as this would be my first...up from a Panasonic FZ30 Bridge...

But as I am new I also have no glass...so it could be adventageous

How many snaps is it good for 100,000 ?

I could be starting in a position that a lot of people dream of...FF

I photo architecture...Macro...landscape...hope to do more people...just about anything really...


WHAT IS THE BIG DIFFS BETWEEN 1Ds & 1D Mk2...?
 
Strikes me that the 1DS advantages would be the low depth of field possibilities from being FF, weathersealed and the pro level metering and AF (not to be sniffed at, it's VERY useful).
The 50D will have better reach (e.g. for aircraft shots), lighter, faster frame rate, MUCH better battery life, cheaper batteries, better compatibility with newer memory cards and being newer, has less likelihood of failure.

Another option you may wish to consider is a used 5Dmk1. Very similar picture quality to the 1DS, but with better battery life, less weight, but also with AF/metering only on par with the 50D.
 
Mr_Sukebe said:
Strikes me that the 1DS advantages would be the low depth of field possibilities from being FF, weathersealed and the pro level metering and AF (not to be sniffed at, it's VERY useful).
The 50D will have better reach (e.g. for aircraft shots), lighter, faster frame rate, MUCH better battery life, cheaper batteries, better compatibility with newer memory cards and being newer, has less likelihood of failure.

Another option you may wish to consider is a used 5Dmk1. Very similar picture quality to the 1DS, but with better battery life, less weight, but also with AF/metering only on par with the 50D.
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But the 5D fps are not very good!:thumbsdown:

Spence
 
I don't subscribe to the notion that you can buy too much camera in the first instance. I've advised loads of people on cameras over the years and I'd always say buy the one you're not going to outgrow in 5 minutes. They're all basically the same light tight box, but some have more features than others.

All the cameras you mention are different horses for different courses though, and I think you need to slow down a bit, and not go buying on a knee jerk reaction. Yoir ideal choice totally depends on the sort of photography you want to do. You really can't compare cameras like the 50D and 1DS models, they're as diffferent as chalk and cheese and both excel in different areas.

Do a bit of reading around the board, there are loads of threads on the subject. :)
 
Oh no...its all happening...and I go on hols on Monday to Mexico.......

Choices...Choices...Whispering Voices...

A lot to consider...and not a lot of time to do it...

I can get a 50d for £699 and a 1Ds for £775......

A lot to weigh up in a short space of time...

Would this take all the latest flashes and clip on auto flash fire bits...anything I could not use is I think what I am asking...


STEVIER
 
THE-BIG-MAN-SAYS said:
How good is the Canon 1Ds...next to the 50d...?

Is its full frame still good...?

Any common probs...?

Is the 50d as good as this...or is the 1ds old hat...?


THANKS
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Hey Big Man

A bit off topic but here goes...I think you've posted a few questions re lenses and cameras on here - and thre is nothing wrong with that.

However, at this rate you'll be on in 3 months asking about a 1Dmkiii!

DSLRs are different beasts, and expensive ones once you add-in lenses etc. If you're just starting out I think the 1 series bodies might be a bit too much, this may be a bad aalogy but once you pass your test if you have the money you could buy an Aston Martin, but you'd prob be best off buying a middl of the road car, and getting your Aston Martin later when you'll truly appreciate it and know how to make the most of it!

So what I'm saying, probably badly, is get a 40D \ 50d with kit lens, find out what you are lacking form this combo and go from there - I think it's hard to know before you get playing!

No offence meant by this, just trying to help - when you're looking for the first DSLR it's very confusing with all the choices and it's easy to want more and more, but IMHO a mid-range camera will more than meet your needs to start off as a keen amateur.

Good luck, take the plunge and enjoy!

al
 
CT said:
I don't subscribe to the notion that you can buy too much camera in the first instance. I've advised loads of people on cameras over the years and I'd always say buy the one you're not going to outgrow in 5 minutes. They're all basically the same light tight box, but some have more features than others.

All the cameras you mention are different horses for different courses though, and I think you need to slow down a bit, and not go buying on a knee jerk reaction. Yoir ideal choice totally depends on the sort of photography you want to do. You really can't compare cameras like the 50D and 1DS models, they're as diffferent as chalk and cheese and both excel in different areas.

Do a bit of reading around the board, there are loads of threads on the subject. :)
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This man knows his eggs... :agree:
 
akr said:
Hey Big Man

A bit off topic but here goes...I think you've posted a few questions re lenses and cameras on here - and thre is nothing wrong with that.

However, at this rate you'll be on in 3 months asking about a 1Dmkiii!

DSLRs are different beasts, and expensive ones once you add-in lenses etc. If you're just starting out I think the 1 series bodies might be a bit too much, this may be a bad aalogy but once you pass your test if you have the money you could buy an Aston Martin, but you'd prob be best off buying a middl of the road car, and getting your Aston Martin later when you'll truly appreciate it and know how to make the most of it!

So what I'm saying, probably badly, is get a 40D \ 50d with kit lens, find out what you are lacking form this combo and go from there - I think it's hard to know before you get playing!

No offence meant by this, just trying to help - when you're looking for the first DSLR it's very confusing with all the choices and it's easy to want more and more, but IMHO a mid-range camera will more than meet your needs to start off as a keen amateur.

Good luck, take the plunge and enjoy!

al
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:agree:


Spence
 
Trying to sort this over the weekend when you're going away on Monday is totally the wrong way to go about this. :D The original 1DS cost £6K body only. The fact that you can now buy it for £750 is a sign of how old the camera now is in terms of advanced technology. Having said that it's weather sealed, and built like a brick outside toilet so if you want a camera to stand in torrential rain and use to block the back wheels of your car - generally take all the abuse you can throw at it, it will be great albeit slipping behind the times a bit now. If you don't need all that bullet proof build quality though, and few of us really do, it's a bit of a waste.

Seriously, either leave it till after your hols or get something a bit more up to date if you have to do it this weekend. ;)
 
THANKS to all who have commented and helped......

I had made my mind up...after many posts and some great info from lots of people on different subjects with different views...

I got the chance of a FF 1Ds...never considered FF as I thought I could not afford something above 6MP...

That is what makes this forum so good...everyone mucks in and has a say...I dont find it confusing...quite the opposite...it is an eyeopener and can actually ground you some times...

With the FF...it was a bit like seeing a puppy...and realise I have to slow down and think obut the pros and cons...prob an overnight sleep will be best...

Right now the way the land lies is this:

1Ds V 50d

FF V crop

Used 60k ops V New

All EF lenses first buy V EF & EFs mix to buy

Battery & Memory old hat V Newer stuff

If the truth be told the used thing and £775 is a slight worry as it could go pop next day...but life is a risk...you could live to 100 or get knocked down at 20...

Time will tell...

THANKS ALL...!!!
 
I considered a Mk1 IDs a while ago as an affordable route to full frame. What ultimately put me off was:

- Low max ISO (1250 I think)
- Tiny screen
- Bulk

Of course, these might not be high on your priority list.

As far as wide angle goes (architecture and landscapes) I don't think there's a lot of difference between the 10-22 or 17-40 in terms of price and performance (although the latter will be built better).

The 50D will be a better camera for Macro though, on account of the crop factor and greater pixel density.

All depends on what you're after.. 1Ds and 50D are like chalk and cheese tbh.
 
I considered buying the 1ds you are refering to. The only thing that has stopped me is I already have a 1ds mk2. I also have a 5D which is a fantastic camera but since buying the 1ds Mk2 earlier this year I have not touched it.

The Canon 1d range in my opinion are the best cameras in the world. They are so well built, they focus superbly and they are the best. Of course this is just my opinion and I grew up on solid big cameras, I have never liked the build quality of the pro-consumer cameras

stew
 
You could always get a Hasselblad H3....

Afraid my numbers did not come up tonight...but still got tomorrow nights draw...

But if they did...well...that would open the door to many other choices...


On another note:

I have had a wee look round ebay etc and done a bit more research...

Going to hold off until I get back from hols...I do that knee jerk thing a lot...I'll then prob buy a 50d from Kerso and a canon 50mm f1.8 prime (nifty fifty)...then from One-Stop-Digital a 17-50 Tamron f2.8...and take it from there...

I start this course in early October...

http://www.glasgowmet.ac.uk/gothic-photography.aspx

So will have a wee bit of time to practice with it before I start...

I'll then add other bits as time goes on...and re-eval the camera when/if the 60d comes out...or if I decide FF is for me...I'll sell the bits off and start again...

I would have been too busy doin last minute shoppin and packin for Mexico anyway...

THANKS GUYS/GALS
 
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