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Some simply STUNNING images on here - just fantastic - but I do wish people would put the kit details they were using and (if poss) the setting AND how much post pro was done (crop, sharpening etc) Could help us all. Just a thought. :)

Rog
 
Roger

Try looking at the EXIF for the image you're viewing. All the info is contained in there... camera, lens, focal length, aperture, speed, ISO etc...
 
As long as the poster of the image wishes others to see the EXIF. It's his/her choice after all.
 
No. Some remove it. It also gets lost if you 'save to web'. I must admit that I look at the exif of every shot I look at and am disappointed when it isn't intact.

kev.
 
*a-hem....embarrassed to ask* :nuts:

How do I find out the exif data?
 
klc_001 said:
*a-hem....embarrassed to ask* :nuts:

How do I find out the exif data?
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Hehe... don't be!

If you're using Firefox, install EXIF Viewer as an add-on. There are many others as well though for other browsers.

Then when you right click on an image you see an additional menu item allowing you to view the EXIF (if it's there).
 
I agree (unless of course the author doesn't want us knowing it). It would be helpful to all looking to improve themselves in some way. Especially me :)
 
Just Dave said:
yeh but OP is asking eg what kit (lens and what ever like filters) and how much PP not just exif
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Yep, good point Dave.

I do though feel it would be a little time consuming if people were asked to include details on the PP used for every shot they posted! EXIF can be embedded and posted automatically, but PP details are a little less straightforward to include. I am sure if someone is interested in finding this out for a particular image, then a request in the thread that the OP could reply to would suffice I'm sure.
 
Thank you all! Will download it now!

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theMusicMan said:
Yep, good point Dave.

I do though feel it would be a little time consuming if people were asked to include details on the PP used for every shot they posted! EXIF can be embedded and posted automatically, but PP details are a little less straightforward to include. I am sure if someone is interested in finding this out for a particular image, then a request in the thread that the OP could reply to would suffice I'm sure.
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good point , but some people dont like others asking PP details as i found a short while ago
 
mrgas said:
good point , but some people dont like others asking PP details as i found a short while ago
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Yep, you're right... and others tell you that you have got the PP wrong, rather than offer their opinion - when it is entirely subjective.:cuckoo:
 
Yea yea - know wall about Exif etc. But life is kind of busier that having to go digging for it all - and as has been said - its easy to exclude it. Just think that it would be good it it was included - even as a small add in at the end of the post. NOT from flashy point of view - just what you used to achieved what you got - thats all :)

Rog
 
RogWarham said:
Yea yea - know wall about Exif etc. But life is kind of busier that having to go digging for it all - and as has been said - its easy to exclude it. Just think that it would be good it it was included - even as a small add in at the end of the post. NOT from flashy point of view - just what you used to achieved what you got - thats all :)

Rog
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:bang: if posting exif became mandatory i would not be able to post here anymore:thumbsdown:
i have a rough idea of what i'm trying to achieve and a vague idea of how to make it happen.
and far from it being easy to add my exif and pp, for me it's practically impossible.:shake: i am always tweaking and twiddling and i never make a note of which slider went where or what the exact F# was.

also wouldn't it be better for you to experiment and learn for yourself, you may stumble upon a great combination no-one else has tried before.
otherwise you are just copying everyone else.
 
Does that not take a bit of the 'magic' away though? To carry on with that analogy is it not like going to a magic show then being upset that you weren't told how to perform that trick yourself? Isn't it part of the fun of photography to learn for yourself? If you just copy someone else how to you learn for the future?

Maybe it is just me, but I don't read any photography 'books' - I like to work out for myself how it all fits together and what is pleasing to some people and what other people hate etc. I like to look at a shot and think "hmm if only I had gone for a faster shutter speed" it makes me want to get out there and try again. If I got it all correct the first time and was following someones elses path through photography I would find it insanely boring :(

Strayed a little from the topic there :p but yeah, I won't be including how I processed a shot or what crop I used etc after each shot I post. On the other hand I am more than happy to help someone if they ask. I would show someone how I 'might' processes a shot, or how I might crop it, but I dunno I just find what I do to my photos something slightly more personal than just following how someone else did it, but then again I did learn HDR from using Pete's guide and that helped me get a jump start, but I like to think I have taken my own path and now I read his guide again i don't agree with plenty of it :p

....so yeah.....think there was a point in that all somewhere. Can you tell I am trying to put off doing some work? :p
 
andrew748 said:
:bang: if posting exif became mandatory i would not be able to post here anymore:thumbsdown:
i have a rough idea of what i'm trying to achieve and a vague idea of how to make it happen.
and far from it being easy to add my exif and pp, for me it's practically impossible.:shake: i am always tweaking and twiddling and i never make a note of which slider went where or what the exact F# was.

also wouldn't it be better for you to experiment and learn for yourself, you may stumble upon a great combination no-one else has tried before.
otherwise you are just copying everyone else.
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exif is automatic I think, so you do not need to manually input this.
 
Oooo Nooo - not saying posting Exif should be mandatory - just interesting thats all. AND as an assist to all our individual creativities.

Do we all fall in to the great TOG + great PP guru category? Nah - Some GREAT Togs & Some GREAT PPs here - some with both - some with neither (!) BUT all with the same passion.

R
 
Jimmy_Lemon said:
Does that not take a bit of the 'magic' away though? To carry on with that analogy is it not like going to a magic show then being upset that you weren't told how to perform that trick yourself? I
:p
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The thing is as a magician myself (its my work) We do tell other Magician what and how, and we have forums like this as well LOL
 
Knowing what kit a shot is taken with won't help anyone be a better photographer. I can see why someone may want to know what kind of focal length you might need to get a shot of a certain subject at a certain location, and lighting diagrams are useful, but the way to look at a photograph is to study the composition, look where the lighting is, figure out why the shot was taken where and when it was.
 
andrew748 said:
li'm on top off your bookcase hacking your wifi:suspect:
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I read that as wife :cuckoo:

Chaz Photos said:
The thing is as a magician myself (its my work) We do tell other Magician what and how, and we have forums like this as well LOL
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Really? Fair enough then, I am more secretive than a magician. Might add that to my signature :)

On a side note Toothie just pointed out to me on the irc chat room that you can actually see some processing info in the exif depending on the reader. On flickr for example you can see a fair bit for example here - http://www.flickr.com/photos/tom_holmes/3635626574/meta/ - you can see the crop I used and much more.
 
Northern Nik - gotta disagree - knowing what was used to create is kind of fundamental to helping people understand what does what and will help people be a better photographer - all part of the equation. I am talking about the tech - not the composition - THAT comes from the soul (Oooo deep!!). I am taking about simple facts - eg: shot on a 50d with a 85 1.2 - Centre cop approx 50%. Simple detail thats all.

R
 
RogWarham said:
Northern Nik - gotta disagree - knowing what was used to create is kind of fundamental to helping people understand what does what and will help people be a better photographer - all part of the equation. I am talking about the tech - not the composition - THAT comes from the soul (Oooo deep!!). I am taking about simple facts - eg: shot on a 50d with a 85 1.2 - Centre cop approx 50%. Simple detail thats all.

R
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So, as you have a 5D II, how is knowing someone took their photograph on a D700 going to help you? :thinking:
 
RogWarham said:
Northern Nik - gotta disagree - knowing what was used to create is kind of fundamental to helping people understand what does what and will help people be a better photographer - all part of the equation. I am talking about the tech - not the composition - THAT comes from the soul (Oooo deep!!). I am taking about simple facts - eg: shot on a 50d with a 85 1.2 - Centre cop approx 50%. Simple detail thats all.
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How? How does knowing that a photo was taken on a 50D help you? How can knowing that a shot's been taken on an 85mm f:1.2 help? Sure you can see the effect of the focal length, but that's not going to really teach you anything.

And composition has nothing to do with 'soul', it's a skill like any other. Some may have more talent for it, but it can be learnt by studying your own work and the work of others.
 
I can just imagine posting some of my PP work........all 17 steps of an action I've written.

I'm with Northern Nikon on this one, you do learn more by reverse engineering shots rather than just being spoon fed the information especially with lighting. Most of the EXIF is available in images and there is no harm in asking if you are not sure how it was done and want to learn more. Actually communicating, there's a novelty!

I've never had a problem looking at EXIF, it's a mouse click for goodness sake! :)
 
RogWarham said:
Hmmmm... So basically what you are saying to me is just shut up.
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not shut up so much as maybe a more selective enquiry on your part would help you more than a ton of mind melting data being thrown at you with every image that's posted.

so if you see something you like and want to try sure ask and the majority of us will be happy to tell you how we did it.
but to expect us to post it automatically is going to help no-one.

take drop shots as an example, they are pretty much a right of passage for the photographer.

very easy to do but still very eye catching and a lot of fun.
to me there are two categories of drop shot:

#1 is yay! look what i did..... and is usually a bit boring but shows that the poster has got the settings right.

#2 is the drop shot gone to the next level, with gels, different liquids etc and is almost always fantastic because it shows the personality of the poster and that they have gone and experimented for themselves.

:D
 
Jimmy_Lemon said:
Does that not take a bit of the 'magic' away though? To carry on with that analogy is it not like going to a magic show then being upset that you weren't told how to perform that trick yourself? Isn't it part of the fun of photography to learn for yourself? If you just copy someone else how to you learn for the future?

Maybe it is just me, but I don't read any photography 'books' - I like to work out for myself how it all fits together and what is pleasing to some people and what other people hate etc. I like to look at a shot and think "hmm if only I had gone for a faster shutter speed" it makes me want to get out there and try again. If I got it all correct the first time and was following someones elses path through photography I would find it insanely boring :(

Strayed a little from the topic there :p but yeah, I won't be including how I processed a shot or what crop I used etc after each shot I post. On the other hand I am more than happy to help someone if they ask. I would show someone how I 'might' processes a shot, or how I might crop it, but I dunno I just find what I do to my photos something slightly more personal than just following how someone else did it, but then again I did learn HDR from using Pete's guide and that helped me get a jump start, but I like to think I have taken my own path and now I read his guide again i don't agree with plenty of it :p

....so yeah.....think there was a point in that all somewhere. Can you tell I am trying to put off doing some work? :p
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If only you had posted that when I was getting slaughtered :bang::)
 
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