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So i'm sitting a test paper soon and I have to take a photo 'giving the viewer the perception of the subject in motion'

Now, when people take those photos of car light trails on a motorway/road would one of these count?

If you have any other ideas, i'd appreciate any help :)

Thanks in advance.
 
I'd go for a panning style shot myself (motion blurred wheels/background, etc). Light-trails would be my back up shot.

EDIT: Just in case you haven't seen it, here is a Panning Guide in the tutorials section.
 
sdb123 said:
I'd go for a panning style shot myself (motion blurred wheels/background, etc). Light-trails would be my back up shot.
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Hhhmm, if a panning style photo would come under that, what's the answer to 'a photo of a moving subject, making them appear motionless'.
 
I think that would be too long exposure...but what about opposite shot to panning? like 1/20sec exposure of a moving car?bike?or pedestrian ?
 
xSitara™;1564745 said:
Hhhmm, if a panning style photo would come under that, what's the answer to 'a photo of a moving subject, making them appear motionless'.
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That'd be a photo of a moving object taken at a high shutter speed to freeze the image with no panning...
 
ROFL2K9 said:
That'd be a photo of a moving object taken at a high shutter speed to freeze the image with no panning...
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xSitara™;1564755 said:
Ok now i'm confused as hell :(

I need sample photos :/
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This is a photo I took of a speeding ambulance with a high enough shutter speed and no panning. The effect is that the ambulance could easily be just parked stationary and you wouldn't tell the difference.

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ROFL2K9 said:
This is a photo I took of a speeding ambulance with a high enough shutter speed and no panning. The effect is that the ambulance could easily be just parked stationary and you wouldn't tell the difference.

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That's what's known technically as a "mistake" :lol:
 
ROFL2K9 said:
This is a photo I took of a speeding ambulance with a high enough shutter speed and no panning. The effect is that the ambulance could easily be just parked stationary and you wouldn't tell the difference.

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Oh wow ok, so it just looks like it's standing there. Now I understand the difference, I still need to figure out how to take that panning photo though :(
 
xSitara™;1564789 said:
Oh wow ok, so it just looks like it's standing there. Now I understand the difference, I still need to figure out how to take that panning photo though :(
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I'm sure one of the motorsport togs will be able to fill you in, it's not really my thing and I only took the photo of the ambulance cos it was whizzing past while I was photographing something else, hence the shetter speed was too high for a decent moving photo :D If your shutter speed is high enough you'll still get that effect while panning too. All I know is that when you do the panning shots, you're sposed to follow the object as soothly and evenly as you can and continue for a little bit after the shutter clicks, not sure about what shutter speeds etc. I guess it depends on what you're shooting and how fast it's moving :)
 
xSitara™;1564802 said:
You know, i've already lost my AF points, I can't damage it no more :( Canon wont fix it because my warranty card isn't stamped.
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As long as you have a receipt (or other proof, like a cc card receipt) from a UK Canon dealer they can't refuse - I don't think any of my warranty cards are stamped...
 
ROFL2K9 said:
I'm sure one of the motorsport togs will be able to fill you in, it's not really my thing and I only took the photo of the ambulance cos it was whizzing past while I was photographing something else, hence the shetter speed was too high for a decent moving photo :D If your shutter speed is high enough you'll still get that effect while panning too. All I know is that when you do the panning shots, you're sposed to follow the object as soothly and evenly as you can and continue for a little bit after the shutter clicks, not sure about what shutter speeds etc. I guess it depends on what you're shooting and how fast it's moving :)
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Who are the motorsport folks around here?

I guess, I can just try different techniques and a bit of my break dancing while i'm shooting to get panning shots and i'll be sorted :lol:
Flash In The Pan said:
As long as you have a receipt (or other proof, like a cc card receipt) from a UK Canon dealer they can't refuse - I don't think any of my warranty cards are stamped...
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I do, I emailed them several times asking if it's ok to send my product in with the proof of purchase, they said they require a stamped warranty card. :(
 
Panning shot = longish shutter speed (~1/100 or slower, depending on subject) and as you take the shot follow the subject in the viewfinder. Like this:



The longer the shutter speed the more blurry the background, but the harder it is to keep the subject sharp. Depending on the shot you don't even neccesarily need the long shutter speed - this is at 1/200 and (I think anyway!) gives a good sensation of motion.



And no panning at all on this one, but because of the timing and position of the subject the impression of motion is conveyed:



So in conclusion - panning WILL get the result you want, but it's not the only way. Maybe try and think about other ways you can achieve the effect that are less obvious.
 
xSitara™;1564838 said:
I do, I emailed them several times asking if it's ok to send my product in with the proof of purchase, they said they require a stamped warranty card. :(
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I'm stuffed then, Jessops didn't stamp the card for my G10 :suspect::lol:
 
ROFL2K9 said:
This might be helpful, it's a previous thread about "panning technique" :)

http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=8216&highlight=panning
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Thankyou :D
flyingmonkeycorp said:
Panning shot = longish shutter speed (~1/100 or slower, depending on subject) and as you take the shot follow the subject in the viewfinder. Like this:



The longer the shutter speed the more blurry the background, but the harder it is to keep the subject sharp. Depending on the shot you don't even neccesarily need the long shutter speed - this is at 1/200 and (I think anyway!) gives a good sensation of motion.



And no panning at all on this one, but because of the timing and position of the subject the impression of motion is conveyed:



So in conclusion - panning WILL get the result you want, but it's not the only way. Maybe try and think about other ways you can achieve the effect that are less obvious.
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Are they your photos?

Thanks soooo much this has helped me so much, I was really confused. I knew nothing about panning until now.

Which settings did you use for the last image. I love that first one it's perfect. Can I take these photos with my 50mm or kit lens?
 
xSitara™;1564866 said:
I don't think any of them do, Canon just trying to make things complicated, I mean I have the warranty why the heck is a stamp necessary. GHR!
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It's not, either take it back to where you got it, or take it to your local authorised Canon repairer
 
Flash In The Pan said:
It's not, either take it back to where you got it, or take it to your local authorised Canon repairer
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That's just the thing, I emailed Canon asking them about the AF points error, they said send it to borehamwood along with proof of purchase and your stamped warranty card. When I responded saying I don't have a stamped warranty card they said they can repair it.
 
xSitara™;1564879 said:
That's just the thing, I emailed Canon asking them about the AF points error, they said send it to borehamwood along with proof of purchase and your stamped warranty card. When I responded saying I don't have a stamped warranty card they said they can repair it.
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in that case go through the shop you bought it from
 
xSitara™;1564862 said:
Thankyou :D


Are they your photos?

Thanks soooo much this has helped me so much, I was really confused. I knew nothing about panning until now.

Which settings did you use for the last image. I love that first one it's perfect. Can I take these photos with my 50mm or kit lens?
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Yep, they are. And yes you can. The first two shots are with my Nikon 18-55VR kit lens, the last one is with my 50mm 1.8, and manual focused too 'cos it doesn't auto on my D60. The EXIF is on the flickr pages, but the first one (the motorbike) was at 1/100 - F10 - ISO400 - 35mm, the second one 1/200 - F4.5 - ISO100 - 18mm and the last one 1/125 - F6.3 - ISO100 - 50mm, with exposure comp +1.125. Then the usual tweaking in Photoshop, but not overly much.
 
If you have a friend who can help, there is an alternative to the panning shot possibly, if you fancy a play. It might be a bit easier to pull off if you are in a rush to get it (panning can be difficult to get right/sharp in the right places, and soft/blurred in the other right places)

It is a bit like car light trails, but with a person.

Take a reasonably dark room, use a small aperture, camera set on tripod, and the camera set to flash, second curtain sync.
Get the person to walk towards you and the camera, or across the field of vision, and press the shutter.
If all goes well, the person's original movement should be blurred by the slow shutter. When the flash fires, they will be 'frozen'
This will leave a kinda blurred trail behind their frozen image.
 
This months Practical Photography magazine has a pull-out section with a guide of how to take a number of shots (including panning)....could be helpful to the OP. :)
 
flyingmonkeycorp said:
Yep, they are. And yes you can. The first two shots are with my Nikon 18-55VR kit lens, the last one is with my 50mm 1.8, and manual focused too 'cos it doesn't auto on my D60. The EXIF is on the flickr pages, but the first one (the motorbike) was at 1/100 - F10 - ISO400 - 35mm, the second one 1/200 - F4.5 - ISO100 - 18mm and the last one 1/125 - F6.3 - ISO100 - 50mm, with exposure comp +1.125. Then the usual tweaking in Photoshop, but not overly much.
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Thanks alot for that, explains alot.

I can't tweak since i'm not allowed it's known cheating according to my tutor lol! But I will give it a go, thanks alot :D

The first shot it my favourite. <3
coldpenguin said:
If you have a friend who can help, there is an alternative to the panning shot possibly, if you fancy a play. It might be a bit easier to pull off if you are in a rush to get it (panning can be difficult to get right/sharp in the right places, and soft/blurred in the other right places)

It is a bit like car light trails, but with a person.

Take a reasonably dark room, use a small aperture, camera set on tripod, and the camera set to flash, second curtain sync.
Get the person to walk towards you and the camera, or across the field of vision, and press the shutter.
If all goes well, the person's original movement should be blurred by the slow shutter. When the flash fires, they will be 'frozen'
This will leave a kinda blurred trail behind their frozen image.
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Oh wow that sounds awesome, might have to try that with my sister. If you don't mind i'm going to save this all just so that I can remember.

Thanks for the tips :D
sdb123 said:
This months Practical Photography magazine has a pull-out section with a guide of how to take a number of shots (including panning)....could be helpful to the OP. :)
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Thankyou, will check it out :D
 
I think enough of my brass has gone to the "The green place".......:lol:

85 has paid for itself though..............:thumbs:
 
fracster said:
I think enough of my brass has gone to the "The green place".......:lol:

85 has paid for itself though..............:thumbs:
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I thought for a minute you were going to say you couldn't get it to focus on a black cat in a coal mine and you wanted your money back :lol:
 
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