image size with the D80 ?HELP

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Trying to understand the image size on the D80, such as L M S, If i change the size can i get nearer to an 10" x 8" for printing.
At the moment camera is set to L (3872 x 2592) the only way i can get all the image on paper is to print at, say A4= 11 3/4" x 8 /4", Trying to print at 10" x 8" i loss right or left of the picture. Bringing the camera settings down to S (1936 x 1296) will this make it closer to the 10" x 8" i am looking for ?...

does that make sense?.
I have checked the manual, but there is little there.

regards
 
Most DSLRs (apart from Olympus and other 4/3 cameras) produce images that have a ratio of 3units along the longest side x 2 units along the short side. 10 x 8 is a different ratio so unless you distort the image by stretching the short side (or shrinking the long side), you'll never get a perfect fit on 10 x 8 paper. The A series of sizes is closer, being 1 unit along the short side and 1.414 (or the square root of 2 to be more accurate) along the long side.

To fit your image onto 10x8, you'll either have to crop it or leave borders.

The image size you're talking about from the camera is always (in the D80) in the ratio of 3:2 - the different sizes are so you can fit more pictures on a card rather than to fit specific print formats.
 
In a word, no.

Changing the image size just changes the resolution, or the maximum size of the image printed without manipulation.

What you're struggling with here is the image ratio. Most SLRs shoot in 6:4 ratio. So basically if you want around A4 size you will want 12x8 (slightly bigger) or 9x6 (slightly smaller).

10x8 is a slightly narrower ratio, so you will have to crop the sides to print at 10x8.

Edit: Beaten to it by Nod.
 
Thanks Nod, although my maths is terrible and find it hard to grasp how you have explained some of it.But will re-read it and try and understand.

I think what i need to do is allow for cropping, my misfortune in taking some of the close up images of a family group has not allowed me to allow for cropping, there fore to get my image to fit a "10 x 8" i lose some of the edges, in this case arms and part of a face....
The above is somthing i have not concidered before, i suspect if i had a full frame camera i would not have to worry or would i ??..

regards

Nod said:
Most DSLRs (apart from Olympus and other 4/3 cameras) produce images that have a ratio of 3units along the longest side x 2 units along the short side. 10 x 8 is a different ratio so unless you distort the image by stretching the short side (or shrinking the long side), you'll never get a perfect fit on 10 x 8 paper. The A series of sizes is closer, being 1 unit along the short side and 1.414 (or the square root of 2 to be more accurate) along the long side.

To fit your image onto 10x8, you'll either have to crop it or leave borders.

The image size you're talking about from the camera is always (in the D80) in the ratio of 3:2 - the different sizes are so you can fit more pictures on a card rather than to fit specific print formats.
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Thanks frester, after my reply above, i think i'am coming to understand more, its all about cropping and allowing space to do so when photographying.

Thanks for the input..

Freester said:
In a word, no.

Changing the image size just changes the resolution, or the maximum size of the image printed without manipulation.

What you're struggling with here is the image ratio. Most SLRs shoot in 6:4 ratio. So basically if you want around A4 size you will want 12x8 (slightly bigger) or 9x6 (slightly smaller).

10x8 is a slightly narrower ratio, so you will have to crop the sides to print at 10x8.

Edit: Beaten to it by Nod.
Click to expand...
 
Hopefully this'll help a little.

This image is a "normal" DSLR image with a ratio of 3:2 fitted onto a 10x8 blank.
3944796950_ee96446169_o.jpg


This is the same image cropped to fill a 10x8 blank.
3944017651_ebe689f533_o.jpg
 
Rocket said:
i suspect if i had a full frame camera i would not have to worry or would i ??..
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No difference here. Although the sensor is bigger (i.e. the same size as a 35mm negative) it is still 3:2 ratio.
 
Hi Nod.
I can understand it now and thanks for the efforts, as i said before i should now allow for the crop, which i didn't in my family group. In your images below there is allowence for a crop with the loss of very little parts of importance, unlike my family group.
At least i still have the family group which can be printed and framed for A4, which i feel looks better.

Today has been a great learning curve for me.
all the best.:thumbs:



Nod said:
Hopefully this'll help a little.

This image is a "normal" DSLR image with a ratio of 3:2 fitted onto a 10x8 blank.
3944796950_ee96446169_o.jpg


This is the same image cropped to fill a 10x8 blank.
3944017651_ebe689f533_o.jpg
Click to expand...
 
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