iPhone vs Blackberry Storm?

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Sorry guys and girls it's another one of these threads but i'm really struggling with this. The storms gonna be free but the iphone is gonna cost me £87.11 because i'm a pikey and don't want to pay a hefty monthly fee. Any major differences between them?
 
I had the same dilemma and 'bought into' iPhone in the end.

No doubt I believe we get ripped of in the UK with iPhone, but its a brilliant tool, however its excellence is further enhanced if you have the ability to link it to a Mac! I run mine off my Macbook and it seamlessly integrates everything perfectly.

My Wife does likewise but off a PC and altho it works, it is slightly less integrated.

Having said that, as a toy that you use as an occasional phone it is stunning! Just a shame it's only available on O2...
 
I have an iphone. My mate had a Blackberry Storm. After 2 weeks he changed it and bought an iphone.

The screen on the Storm is not very touchy as you have to make a positive push to use it, unlike the iphone. Also I think it was slow to switch from portrait to landscape when flipping it round.

Just buy an iphone you gypo. :)
 
I have both.

I bought an iphone myself, the company bought me a Storm.

The storm is in my drawer at work, and I've gone back to using a previous blackberry.

IMHO the blackberry storm is the worst blackberry ever. They've got rid of the ease of use of the other devices purely to give people what they want - the touch screen. However, their implementation of it is vastly inferior to the iphone.
 
Sarin said:
Any major differences between them?
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Yes. The Storm is carp, the iPhone isn't.

Seriously, the Storm is widely regarded as one of the worst handsets RIM have produced. Maybe look at the Curve 8900 or slightly larger Bold if you want to explore the Blackberry route, although neither of these are touch screen handsets.

The choice is, ultimately, yours but I'd be surprised if after playing with both you chose anything other than the iPhone to be honest.
 
I've got a storm, and to be honest I can't fault it. My wife has an iphone and there isn't that much difference, although you don't get wifi with the storm.

As regards the screen, yes you have to physically push the screen, but its no great hardship, its only a problem when i'm using her iphone' when I always try to push my thumb through the screen:D
 
I went for the HTC Touchdiamond 2, slightly smaller screen that the iPhone but it integrates with all my work stuff perfectly. Screens responsive, nice and clear, I don't need to jailbreak it, perfect :)
 
I have an N95 8GB and borrowed an iPhone 3GS for last weekend. I ended up giving the 3GS back after about 6-7 hours because as a phone it was an effort to dial a number or send a text.

However I did like the application side of it so I bought an iPod Touch 2G and use my n95 for 'phone things' and my iPod Touch as an organiser / tool. Means two gadgets to carry around but they are both doing what they are best at.

Trev
 
Had an iphone since launch, wouldnt think of buying anything else. Did have a work Storm earlier this year - awful. Build quality seemed poor, awful touchscreen, nowhere near as easy to use.
 
I have an iPhone 3GS and have used several different Blackberries over the last few months. Personally, I find the iPhone a lot more intuitive and more responsive. No doubt the Blackberry is ok once you get to grips with it and fully understand how it works but the iPhone was easier to get to grips with.

The 3GS is a lot quicker than the 3G, as well. Everything loads faster and the UI is far more responsive. I have to type texts and emails in landscape orientation but other than that it's all good. The AppStore is a great resource, as well. A lot of rubbish on there but a few gems which really make life easier.

George.
 
Had an N95 before now an iPhone 3g. It just works.

Also great for showing potential clients photos and video on :D
 
I got a new Blackberry a few weeks ago, I had the Bold, Curve and Storm lined up in the shop and had a play with each of them. The Storm looked nice but that touch screen really annoyed me, you couldn't press the next button in a text message until it had finished with the last, that little delay annoyed me. I ended up with the Bold and love it!

I didn't really consider the iPhone as it was simply too expensive on o2.
 
DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT get a storm, it's bloody awful. We (5 of us at work) have just binned all of our storms and changed to Curves which are so much better its unbelievable. I'd go with the iPhone every day of the week rather than a storm. The touch screen is terrible and almost impossible to get accurate cursor movement, the os is very slow and almost grinds to a halt, and the very worst thing is that half the time no matter how hard you press the button or the screen symbol you can't answer the damned things when you receive a phone call - can't tell you the number of times I've had to ring people back coz I couldn't answer their call. Everyone I know with a storm had the same problems. Shame, coz it should be a superb piece of kit, my guess is they rushed it as the iPhone was killing their sales.
 
The thing is, for a lot of corporates, the iphone is not an option.

RIM should have stuck to what they do best, email and Voice. The rest is just nice to haves. My current Bold is great for emails, but the iphone just wipes the floor with it.
 
Part of my job is supporting 100+ blackberries. I have an iPhone which my work blackberry forwards to.
Enough said.
 
I support 300 at the moment. I have refused to allow Storms on oour BES. I also have a personal Iphone which i use for all voice calls, Bold is only for email.
 
I wasn't really happy with the wifes iPhone when I bought it for her earlier in the year, neither was she to be honest... and we're both Mac users too! I decided to get the Blackberry for myself but will admit that I am now starting to regret this decision.

Despite its failings and misgivings, I now would choose the iPhone over a BBerry and wish I had done before I renewed my Orange contract.
 
the_doctor199 said:
I got a new Blackberry a few weeks ago, I had the Bold, Curve and Storm lined up in the shop and had a play with each of them. The Storm looked nice but that touch screen really annoyed me, you couldn't press the next button in a text message until it had finished with the last, that little delay annoyed me. I ended up with the Bold and love it!

I didn't really consider the iPhone as it was simply too expensive on o2.
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You don't have to wait for the key strokes, you can just bash on and it'll catch up eventually, only problem is if you make a spellingmistookor don't rememberaspace, you had to delete everything backto that point to fix it, but the last update I ran gave you box that appears on he text that you can slide back and fore to move the cursor to the correct place. Its a bit fiddly but its better than it was.
 
The Storm is terrible, I tried it last November (along with te iPhone and a load of over touch screen devices) and it's not a patch on the other phones. The funny thing is one of the biggest issues with it (the positive pressure pressing) was also the big fanfair about the device, with it being called a brillinat idea by loads of tech blogs...

However I wound't go for the iPhone either. As a media device it's ok, but for everything else it's mediocre at best (although the update to the 3gs has relieved a lot of the problems). Have you had a look at any other phones? The Omnia 2 looks to be a cracking phone, however if you want one now then maybe the Diamond 2, Touch HD or the Hero. WM devices have the added benefit of syncing with Windows systems very simply (just plug and play, for file transfers and modems).
 
I love my iPhone! It does everything I want (not a corporate user, just looking for a phone with a few extra bells and whistles), and on a completely shallow level, it's so pretty! Seriously, it may have flaws, and there may be better phones out there, but play with one and you will almost definitely want one, trust me!
 
IPhone mate. I support in region the of 300+ users on BES and when it come down to the bones and gravy the Curve (8310) is about the best in terms of battery life, usability and genera all roundness. The newer BB's suffer from poor battery life the bigger the BBerry with more features the cra**er the battery life.

I have a Bold (9000) at the moment which i updated with the latest firmware this week which is SUPPOSED to resolve this issue of the battery life and to be honest it hasn't made much difference at all.

I have a Ipod Touch and love it for functionality its just so easy to do stuff with it. (once its been fixed ;) )

Hope this helps :cool:
 
Amp34 said:
However I wound't go for the iPhone either. As a media device it's ok, but for everything else it's mediocre at best (although the update to the 3gs has relieved a lot of the problems).
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it'll be interesting to see what your supposed issues with it are.

I suppose it depends on what you want it for. For me it's replaced my Palm as a map/diary/address book and pretty neat it links everything to a phone. Having my email with me is kinda useful also

Being a hobby photographer, I've never really been bothered about the camera on a phone, but I love the screen on the iPhone and ability to carry a portfolio around with me.

I don't make lots of calls, or use lots of text, but the web link/applications are pretty neat too i.e. I have my 50D users manual on it, a sunrise calculator (invaluable in Sri Lanka) etc.

The media stuff is ok, use it a bit, I suppose that's one of the big points of the iPhone. Lying in bed at night using itunes to grab podcasts is pretty neat.

Poor stuff. Battery life can be poor, but no real difference to other high spec equivilant phones. Usually mine gets to about 75% battery at the end of the day and gets a recharge on the pc for about an hour when I sync it. On holiday when it didn't get used much I was charging it every three days with approx 40-50% battery left.

iTunes needs getting used to and is a poor piece of software at times, but then it's becoming almost a standard piece of software these days with the number of ipods sold.
 
I wouldn't use any other phone than my iPhone. As a Mac user with a MobileMe subscription, it works perfectly for me in every way possible, and I can run my business from it as well with a minimum of fuss. It also saves me having to carry an iPod separately which is a big plus for me.

Only downer is the battery life for me. If I was buying one from new, I'd personally get the 3G one for free rather than pay for the 3GS, I don't think the updates are worth the extra money. If you want to, as I have, you can always jailbreak it anyway, I have pretty much all the features of the 3GS on my 3G as a result, plus more.
 
Byker28i said:
it'll be interesting to see what your supposed issues with it are.

I suppose it depends on what you want it for. For me it's replaced my Palm as a map/diary/address book and pretty neat it links everything to a phone. Having my email with me is kinda useful also

Being a hobby photographer, I've never really been bothered about the camera on a phone, but I love the screen on the iPhone and ability to carry a portfolio around with me.

I don't make lots of calls, or use lots of text, but the web link/applications are pretty neat too i.e. I have my 50D users manual on it, a sunrise calculator (invaluable in Sri Lanka) etc.

The media stuff is ok, use it a bit, I suppose that's one of the big points of the iPhone. Lying in bed at night using itunes to grab podcasts is pretty neat.

Poor stuff. Battery life can be poor, but no real difference to other high spec equivilant phones. Usually mine gets to about 75% battery at the end of the day and gets a recharge on the pc for about an hour when I sync it. On holiday when it didn't get used much I was charging it every three days with approx 40-50% battery left.

iTunes needs getting used to and is a poor piece of software at times, but then it's becoming almost a standard piece of software these days with the number of ipods sold.
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At the risk on degenerating this thread into an "iPhone is rubbish" one (which it isn't) i'll try and answer.

I'm sure you already know the main arguments against the iPhone (MMS, Video, copy and paste to name the big ones), which have all finally been resolved with the Gs (which is why I stated the 3Gs has relieved most of the problems), but there are still a few major issues with the phone, to start with (multitasking, closed system and having to use third party software to connect it to your PC and the lack of security for corporate customers as well as a couple of others), these issues mean even though the rest of the phone is quite good it doesn't stand up to the competition for a lot of people (unless you want a basic phone that's just a bit snazzier than a normal Samsung, Sony Ericsson or Nokia).

As for your specific examples:

By map I assume you don't mean google maps (available on all smart phones), but sat nav programs (which have only just started selling versions of their mobile products for the iPhone after years of being available for the rest of the smart phone OS's)? As for diary and address book, that's standard on all phones I know of. As for email, the iPhone isn't too bad, however compared to either a Blackberry or WM phone it's mediocre at best.:)

I personally like a good camera on a phone (which a lot of smart phones seem to lack, but generally they are ok) due to not needing to carry a compact around when I don't have my DSLR. The screen on the other hand is a standard feature on most smart phones (and arguably not as good as WM phones due to the low resolution, WM phone screens are a lot sharper).

Apps wise, yes the iPhone has loads of apps, but so do the other smart phones (in fact the iPhone is way behind WM and possibly by Symbian as well). Both the examples and more are available for WM devices for a start (I have "apps" that do the same thing on my Touch HD). I hear a lot of iPhone users boasting about facebook integration, not realising this is a standard feature on most Smart Phones (not that I use it...). The one benefit on the apps front is the apps store, which is only now being copied by other companies. However this has it's drawbacks, the closed system mentioned earlier. You can only install apps that Apple allow (which is partly why so many people jailbreak their phones)...

Grabbing podcasts can be done by any smart phone, however generally you don't need to install any software with it, it will just "work".

There is quite a difference battery life wise between similarly specced phones, the original iPhones would only last a day (if that) with reasonable useage, the 3Gs has sorted this a bit but there seems to be some kind of QC issue coming in, as a lot of people mention no change in the battery life compared to older ones. In comparison my HD (which is better specced than the 3Gs) will last 2 days with heavy useage, and over a week with standard useage (short phone call or two, few texts, some music, internet etc.). That's not dissimilar to most WM and Android phones.

iTunes is terrible (IMO obviously, some people love it..:cuckoo::p) however what I really detest is the forcing of you to use it if you buy an iPod or iPhone. There is no reason for Apple to do this, all other phones and mp3 players don't need specific software so why Apple products? It's not particularly standard even now, add that to the pain it is (if possible at all) to allow more than one "i" device to connect on the same account.

After all that i'm not saying its a bad phone, in fact it's pretty good (especially the 3gs), however it's not miles ahead of anything else (or arguably ahead at all). Yes the UI is good most of the time, but it's not that much better than any of the other OS's out there, IMO it also looks a bit dated. The UI also hides the main issues of the phone, that there is nothing unique or revolutionary about the phone, and in some ways it is still behind a lot of the others (although the 4th version may change that, Apple seem to have listened to most of the criticism about the two previous versions). The lack of those important features (as mentioned at the start of the post) are IMO why it is a mediocre device (at the moment, it used to be a poor one, but as mentioned before the 3Gs solved a lot of the issues).

I think a lot of the social issues with the phone are because a lot of people just take the iPhone as some kind of revolutionary device, they flash it in peoples face, and anyone tech savvy gets a bit annoyed at being told standard features on their phone are apparently unique to the iPhone (Apples adverts for it don't help either... "G-sensor", fancy that... VIDEO!!, wow..., Copy and paste!1111!!!, erm... ok...:lol:).
 
I agree that the main features aren't anything new, my HTC WM device was doing most of them years ago. However it is the way that the iPhone does them that makes the difference.

Also it is possible to connect more than 1 iPod/iPhone to an itunes account, I do it almost every day. The software from the 3Gs is also available on the 3G, so MMS/ C&P etc work fine on the 3G.
 
Amp34 said:
At the risk on degenerating this thread into an "iPhone is rubbish" one (which it isn't) i'll try and answer.

I'm sure you already know the main arguments against the iPhone (MMS, Video, copy and paste to name the big ones), which have all finally been resolved with the Gs (which is why I stated the 3Gs has relieved most of the problems), but there are still a few major issues with the phone.
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Without meaning to sound pedantic, although I know I will, the 'problems' you state there have nothing to do with being 'solved by the 3GS', they were solved by the 3.0 software and are available on any 3G iPhone.
 
Amp34 said:
At the risk on degenerating this thread into an "iPhone is rubbish" one (which it isn't) i'll try and answer.
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Nope just interested in your opinion, thanks for that. I see others have answered a few points above, but you'll see I agreed with you about iTunes :D
 
Having been an extremely long time user of Windows Mobile (about 9 devices from the time of windows CE) I can say that the Iphone is streets ahead of Windows Mobile.

It's more stable by a long way than any windows mobile device I've had.
 
barneyrubble said:
It's more stable by a long way than any windows mobile device I've had.
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I guess there's an element of personal experience here. I'm onto my third WM device and really haven't had an issue with stability with any of them.

If yours were unstable how much customisation, if any, had been done to them? Mine have all been pretty much as they came out of the box apart obviously from email accounts. I don't have music, videos, photos etc on them so there's really no clutter.
 
When you say customisation, no hacks to the OS were done, just running a number of applications, bluetooth, gps etc.

I had 4 HTC devices, a couple of Ipaqs, a couple of o2 xdas.

Having been on forums such as XDA developers, i know a lot of the issues that have been happening on there too. One of the beneits of the Iphone is that it is a closed system. Some people may not like it, but it does mean that there's more QC in the applications.
 
Got my iphone yesterday....had iTunes crash 5 times while syncing and Safari 3 times on the phone.

Apart from Safari being a big steaming pile of turd compared to Opera, it is a nice device :)
 
Thanks for the replies guys, have decided on an iphone. Now just the problem of actually getting one, apparently there are none in the country due to Apple launching to the rest of the world this week. *sigh*
 
Craikeybaby said:
I agree that the main features aren't anything new, my HTC WM device was doing most of them years ago. However it is the way that the iPhone does them that makes the difference.

Also it is possible to connect more than 1 iPod/iPhone to an itunes account, I do it almost every day. The software from the 3Gs is also available on the 3G, so MMS/ C&P etc work fine on the 3G.
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I know there used to be a problem, but it's been fixed now? (I was a bit vague on this).:)

Dman said:
Without meaning to sound pedantic, although I know I will, the 'problems' you state there have nothing to do with being 'solved by the 3GS', they were solved by the 3.0 software and are available on any 3G iPhone.
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I realise that, just didn't want to make the post any longer than necessary.:D

The 3GS however does have some added benefits the 3g doesn't (such as the battery life), does the 3g also do video now? That is one benefit that Apple do give however, they update the previous hardware with new software, however other OS's would find it very difficult to do due to the range of hardware they are on.

Byker28i said:
Nope just interested in your opinion, thanks for that. I see others have answered a few points above, but you'll see I agreed with you about iTunes :D
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Cool.:)

As for stability, well I have very few problems with my WM device, I also know that the iPhone also has the occasional problem.:)
 
I have had my Blackberry Storm for nearly a year now, and it is PANTS. I am tied into a contract with Vodafone, so I am "stuck". The Battery life is dreadful, lasts about 6 hours, Vodafone have even sent me a replacement battery, free of charge, which says a lot, regards the battery.

Often the phone "crashes" and I have to take the battery out to re-boot the phone. I synch'd the phone and lost all my contacts......oh boy.##

My advice is "stay clear of the Storm"

Dave
 
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