Is this effect possible with a digital camera?

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Have fallen in love with this dark, grainy effect. The image is by Jerry Berndt and shot in the sixties. Have tried recreating the grain and darkness - cranked up ISO - but not very successful. :shrug: Am working on Nikon D200 ... any ideas much appreciated. When first tried was using 18-135 lens now have hands on long and short lenses.

Ask as would love to do moody street portraits - black and white and colour.

By way ... first post so hope the link comes out ok :)

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No...but I've seen images processed with it and they look good. Try a search on Flickr, bound to be some there to give you an idea
 
Could take a lot of practice eh Pete. Maybe it's just me but I'm wondering why anyone would want to create a picture that looks like that :-)
 
You either get the look or don't. I do.

However I think its best to just use B&W film anyway for this effect rather than software
 
Could you explain it further so there are people who either get the look but don't like it or maybe get the look and do like it or who don't get the look and like it or even don't get it and don't like it? :)
 
petemc said:
Could you explain it further so there are people who either get the look but don't like it or maybe get the look and do like it or who don't get the look and like it or even don't get it and don't like it? :)
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Yes you could.

like anything really
 
Well, to me it's a nice "antiquey" sort of look which is pleasent to look at, either like it or dont.
Like HDR

It's a revival of an old style look.
 
richpips said:
You talking to me?
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Nope.

ryank said:
Well, to me it's a nice "antiquey" sort of look which is pleasent to look at, either like it or dont.
Like HDR

It's a revival of an old style look.
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:rollpies: @ HDR. I'm familiar with peoples ability to like or not like something. I don't need examples :p Anyway, even in 1968 they were able to focus their camera. So what makes the out of focus look work?
 
The alienskin plug-ins will do this sort of thing, but i have to say it's normally the sort of thing i do when i make a mistake!
 
I believe if the subject matter is interesting that it can be a bit out of focus and still work ok.
 
So what makes the out of focus look work?
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In the eyes of some, the same as that in others who find lurid colours on heswall beach pleasing on the eye.
 
Ok so the out of focus b&w photo works because its not a HDR that I took at Heswall Beach last week? Awesome. So much clearer now. *sigh* I guess HDR photography means its ok for people to treat you like **** these days.
 
Ok so the out of focus b&w photo works because its not a HDR that I took at Heswall Beach last week? Awesome. So much clearer now. *sigh* I guess HDR photography means its ok for people to treat you like **** these days.
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I was merely defending the right of others to see what they like in their photography. Yourself included of course. You were the one who started using the poking stick.
 
Nope. I made a tounge in cheek reply of how to do it and then asked what really makes the image besides it being something people either like or dislike. I certainly didn't bring anyone elses work into it or make it personal.
 
Im probably not the best to ask, as I simply just like the look! Not necessarily oof but B&W with grain does it for me!

This is no doubt because 'The Americans' got me into photography.
 
I do love grainy b&w shots. I would have hoped that I was as known for that as HDR.
 
Nope. I made a tounge in cheek reply of how to do it and then asked what really makes the image besides it being something people either like or dislike. I certainly didn't bring anyone elses work into it or make it personal.
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Tongue in cheek maybe. It certainly came across that you were criticising anyone who would want to create such an effect?

Just had a quick look, there are a good few pictures out there that aren't in focus, but still have enough form to convey their subject.
 
Your image is just a red X on my monitor here but if you are after Film effects with digital then try http://www.dxo.com/uk/photo/filmpack DXO Labs.

I know someone who has used it and was impressed.

You can mimic most of the film emulsions
 
richpips said:
Just had a quick look, there are a good few pictures out there that aren't in focus, but still have enough form to convey their subject.
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So have to agree with this .... I don't see the image as a photograph that's out of focus ... surely it's so much more than that. To me the image is about atmosphere and one I feel that would be lost should the image be sharp.

But that's the thing about photography ... an image can grab one person and be lost on the next. Part of it's allure surely?

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I think you're gonna struggle to recreate the look of film grain, its nothing like digital noise, I would start with a clean noise free digital file and add/alter that, noise could just interfere with PP.
 
foodpoison said:
Good luck with the look of film grain. 'virtual film grain' just doesn't really work.
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Hmmm ... beginning to think that but one day though perhaps - may even be close now with the software.

This whole discussion (and it's been lively) has really got me thinking :thinking:.... going to dig out and dust down an old skool 35m camera (Canon) I was given and to my shame have never used. Time to experiment. :)
 
I've just had a quick play with a similar type of shot and I'd recommend a plugin called silver efex, I'd say it's better than alien skin 2. Defo start with noise free if possible, digital noise is a bit, er, linear (?) if you know what I mean.
 
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