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[Mike Jackson]

A roll of 127 film into my Kodak Model B Vest Pocket camera. It was a bit fiddly but I think I managed it okay. Now I need to find some suitable subjects for my first foray into the world of vintage cameras.

 

[Musicman]

Where do you find 127 film these days?

 

[TheBigYin]

Here ?

 

[joxby]

And here

http://www.silverprint.co.uk/ProductByGroup.asp?PrGrp=229

 

[Mike Jackson]

I got it from http://www.ag-photographic.co.uk/

Not sure where I'll get it developed though. I'm not sure Tesco can handle 127 film

 

[colpepper]

Good news that old formats are being kept alive. It's to be hoped other sizes are revitalised by intrepid individuals or companies to give dead cameras a new lease of life.

 

[s162216]

I got it from http://www.ag-photographic.co.uk/

Not sure where I'll get it developed though. I'm not sure Tesco can handle 127 film

If I were you I would get it developed and contacted, the lenses on most 127 cameras were not good enough to be able to resolve enough detail for enlargements so it was common practise to develop and contact.

I have been thinking of getting a 127 camera and asked Peak Imaging how much it would cost for a develop and contact. They told me that they could develop it for the same price a 120 film (£3.75) and then contact it for £4.95.

http://www.peak-imaging.com/htmls/film_processing.htm

What size image does your 127 camera take? Most took 4cm x 4 cm, but others used 3cm x 4cm or 6cm x 4cm. The advantage of the last one is that its the same aspect ratio as 35mm so you can get prints if you want, without cropping.
Fuji Digital Imaging Service will do 6"x4" for £10 but it might be worth asking about if they would do them another size for you if your camera takes 4cm x 4cm or 3cm x 4cm pictures, so that theres no cropping.

http://www.photofilmprocessing.co.uk/110filmprocessing.html

If its black and white your shooting Ilford Lab should do it as well as they say they will do other unusual film formats and its similar to 120 film, so contact them about it. Its a little more expensive than most black and white services but the quality is great as they print it on actual black and white paper and not colour.

http://www.ilfordlab.com/page/57/Black-and-White-Prints-from-Film.htm

Hope this helps

EDIT:

Just looked up your camera, it takes 6.5cm x 4cm pictures, quite an unusual size so it would be best to either get the images contacted (reccomended as the lens is unlikely to be good enough for enlargements) or get the images printed and bear a slight bit of cropping off the sides. If you want scanning it might be difficult as the lab might not have the necessary equipment to scan 127.

Personally I would love it if someone would start making 110 film again, Kodak stopped a couple of years ago and only out of date stock is available. Although I am seriously considering making a film slitter and making some then loading it into an old 110 cartidge, theres plenty of old Kodak stock on ebay to nick the cartridges off. I've always wanted to try one of those little Pentax Auto 110s that are so small that one journalist used to hide one in his shoe when going to concerts, stand up commedy etc to get it past security and get the pictures published before anyone else.

 

[Musicman]

Ah. Ta. I'd been under the impression nobody was making it any more - and happily it seems I'm wrong.

 

[Mike Jackson]

Thanks Samuel.

I'll probably go the develop and contact route and scan the negatives at home. I'm not expecting any great results just curious as to what sort of results I can get. I've got two films to play with at the moment and probably won't be getting any more.

 

[cowasaki]

I was just clicking on the links to find out what 127 film was and found 110 film. Haven't seen that for years other than the single one I have in my fridge that I can't get developed. I will leave it till I eventually give in and buy all the C41 stuff to do colour having enjoyed doing the B&W so much

 

[TheBigYin]

if its just developing you're talking about with C41 it's a simple choice really... colour chem's tend to come in kits, no mix and match, just a single box with the dev,blix and stabiliser in it... 3x1L bottles and you're in business

But definitely get to the point you can do B&W dev. on autopilot first, the speed of processing on the colour stuff, and the critical timing of the process for consistent colour requires being pretty comfortable with the whole routine.

Dunno how you'd go about loading the 110 film into a spool though

 

[cowasaki]

if its just developing you're talking about with C41 it's a simple choice really... colour chem's tend to come in kits, no mix and match, just a single box with the dev,blix and stabiliser in it... 3x1L bottles and you're in business

But definitely get to the point you can do B&W dev. on autopilot first, the speed of processing on the colour stuff, and the critical timing of the process for consistent colour requires being pretty comfortable with the whole routine.

Dunno how you'd go about loading the 110 film into a spool though

Thanks, I had no plans to look at C41 yet! I am not sure either yet

 

[TheBigYin]

If I knew how to load it up, I'd process the 110 for you, but it would be a hell of a short spiral

Edit: found a tank that has 110 capabilities

 

[cowasaki]

If I knew how to load it up, I'd process the 110 for you, but it would be a hell of a short spiral

Thanks, It was one of the kids films from maybe 10 years ago! It has been in the fridge for 5 years though.

 

[s162216]

The same place as I linked to above for the 127 processing will also do 110 for the same price (6"x4" £10). There are quite a few other places that do it and other older formats as well but this one seems the most easy. Just don't use oldfilmprocessing (the kodak service) because as I have said before, they charge you sometimes four times the amount than other places do.

http://www.photofilmprocessing.co.uk/110filmprocessing.html

110 film is just 16mm roll film in a cartridge, the patterson spirals that my dad has with his (long unused) development stuff claim to be able to do 110 (along with 135,126,127 and 120) so I don't see why modern ones shouldn't be able to. Take a look at the link below to see how to open the cartridge, it also has some interesting information on how to reload the cartridges with 35mm or 120 film cut down to 16mm.

http://www.subclub.org/darkroom/roll110.htm

The difficulty though is that you need cartridges, which are getting scarce as the last remaining Kodak and Fuji 110 stocks are getting used up. But hey if you can still get frozen disc film then I bet you'll still be able to get 110 in a few years. The other main problem is that there were only two film speeds with 110, 80/100 (depending on the camera) and 400. The camera reads whether a notch on the cartridge is there or not so you also need a cartridge with the correct notch. As I said I would love to do this and use one of those little Pentax Auto 110 SLR's.

Look at it compared to the size of a Pentax K100d SLR

 

[TheBigYin]

110 film is just 16mm roll film in a cartridge, the patterson spirals that my dad has with his (long unused) development stuff claim to be able to do 110 (along with 135,126,127 and 120) so I don't see why modern ones shouldn't be able to.

The modern Patterson reels have a minimum depth that is just right for 35mm film - there's no way to get any narrower that I can see, having spent half a hour of faffing with one last night!