Large format ink longevity study: winners and losers

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This concerns pigment ink printers, and will be orders of magnitude better than any dye based solution.

http://www.wilhelm-research.com/Canson/WIR_Canson_Fine_Art_and_Photo_Papers_2019-10-20.pdf
Z9 http://www.wilhelm-research.com/hp/WIR_HP_Z9+_Print_Permanence_Ratings_2019-11-11.pdf
IPF8300 http://www.wilhelm-research.com/canon/WIR_Canon8300_2010_09_02.pdf

Best is HP Z3200 and Z9 line, followed by new Epson, and older Canon IPF line.

The losers are the new Canon PRO x000 line (same as Pro 1 and Pro 10), and old Epsons. They longevity is as little as 37 years vs over 200 of the best ones. It may still be OK for every day applications but it's not something I would be comfortably calling "archival".

My older Canon IPF6450 is somewhere in the middle. While everyone is improving, Canon is regressing according to this study. HP looks like the one to get next.
 
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I'd be right in thinking that HP don't do anything close to the 17" printer that an "advanced amateur" might want to invest in? I'm thinking something that competes with the Epson P800 or the Prograf-1000. Both of those are my replacement buy when mine conks out. Unless I go for the P5000 (which having just checked is now discontinued!!)
 
24" are still perfectly manageable for home use as long as you can avoid stairs. The benefits of this size include canvas printing as well as larger prints, and much more roll media available on the market.
 
LongLensPhotography said:
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Heh, I guess it depends upon your home... The 17" SP4800 I have is upstairs in the office and takes up a significant (too much if I'm honest) space. A 24" printer isn't practical for me as I don't have the space downstairs for it. I would if I was single though... Still, the HP 24" printers are way out of my price range. I was hoping for something mid sized, but it seems all they do is sub-£200 printers for the masses, and >£2k printers for design offices and businesses.
 
Harlequin565 said:
Heh, I guess it depends upon your home... The 17" SP4800 I have is upstairs in the office and takes up a significant (too much if I'm honest) space. A 24" printer isn't practical for me as I don't have the space downstairs for it. I would if I was single though... Still, the HP 24" printers are way out of my price range. I was hoping for something mid sized, but it seems all they do is sub-£200 printers for the masses, and >£2k printers for design offices and businesses.
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lol. If you think about it there is probably some space under the staircase, at the back of the garage or somewhere... but sure it is not for everyone.

It needn't be terribly expensive either if you look for used ones (Z3200). I'll probably get one so less competition there :)
 
LongLensPhotography said:
This concerns pigment ink printers, and will be orders of magnitude better than any dye based solution.

http://www.wilhelm-research.com/Canson/WIR_Canson_Fine_Art_and_Photo_Papers_2019-10-20.pdf
Z9 http://www.wilhelm-research.com/hp/WIR_HP_Z9+_Print_Permanence_Ratings_2019-11-11.pdf
IPF8300 http://www.wilhelm-research.com/hp/WIR_HP_Z9+_Print_Permanence_Ratings_2019-11-11.pdf

Best is HP Z3200 and Z9 line, followed by new Epson, and older Canon IPF line.

The losers are the new Canon PRO x000 line (same as Pro 1 and Pro 10), and old Epsons. They longevity is as little as 37 years vs over 200 of the best ones. It may still be OK for every day applications but it's not something I would be comfortably calling "archival".

My older Canon IPF6450 is somewhere in the middle. While everyone is improving, Canon is regressing according to this study. HP looks like the one to get next.
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Are the last 2 links supposed to be the same links?
 
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