LCD loupe users beware !

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A warning here folks....

For the past few weeks I've been using a Loupe on the LCD of my 1D3 for Liveview focussing for macro shots....some tripod work and some hand-held. The tripod stuff was mainly hoppers, crickets and spiders in the grass and brambles. It involved setting up the tripod, roughly focussing and then snipping the odd blade of grass or a leaf that was interferring with the composition before accurately focussing and taking the shot.

After a few days, I started to see randomly shaped yellow spots on the LCD screen...hmmmm :thinking:

It seems that the loupe has focussed the sun and burnt areas of pixels so that they just show up yellow. Nothing to be lost now so I tried some quick tests to see what angle and how quickly the damage is done....clearly some of the damage occurred whilst carrying the tripod mounted camera over my shoulder.

My Zacuto Z-Finder will focus the sun from an angle of 30 degrees to the lens axis....ie, quite a way off being directly pointing at the sun.
With the sun over your shoulder, it's possible to burn some LCD pixels in only 4 seconds!....much less time than it takes me to stealthily trim the odd leaf or blade of grass. Increasing the angle increases the time to destruction but not by much.

The lenses on Hoodman or LCDVF loupes may have a slightly different spherical surface to the Z-Finder but that will only increase or reduce the angle whereby the sun can do its dirty deed.

Carelessness has left me with a hefty repair bill unless I face life with all my subjects looking like a jaundiced Mr Blobby on the review screen or Liveview. Anyone else using one of these should make sure it isn't left uncovered for even the shortest time when the sun is out (if it does still come out overthere?)

Bob
 
Have you reported this to Zacuto and received their official response on this yet?
 
Wow. I'd never have thought of that happening.

I use a very basic loupe with no diopter adjustment on my 5D2 for video. I doubt it could focus the sun that well but I will not be taking any chances now.
 
Have you reported this to Zacuto and received their official response on this yet?
I don't really see it as a Zacuto problem, just carelessness on my part. The Z-Finder is equipped with a lens cap that would have prevented this if I'd used it but it's easy to be wise after the event.
It's a simple fact that a lens will focus the sun.....just trying to make others aware of how quickly it can happen. I tried focussing it on my hand and it takes a fair while before it gets painful but LCD's are obviously damaged quite quickly by the heat.

that pritty bad, and there not cheap either.
Excellent piece of kit IMHO.....just that they can be dangerous to LCD's when used by careless idiots :'(

Bob
 
Wow. I'd never have thought of that happening.

I use a very basic loupe with no diopter adjustment on my 5D2 for video. I doubt it could focus the sun that well but I will not be taking any chances now.

Focus your loupe on a bit of black plastic (at the same distance that the LCD would be) and see if you can scorch it. It may take a while but LCD's seem to be less tolerant.

Bob
 
I don't really see it as a Zacuto problem, just carelessness on my part.

Well, perhaps, but was there no warning or anything that this could happen if you're not careful? This is the first time I've heard of anything like this happening.
 
This appears on the website...
- The Z-finder is a magnifier and as such will magnify the sun and could damage the LCD screen if the sun is allowed to shine directly through the Z-finder lens. This is not a defect but a physical property. Caution should be taken to avoid sun magnification.

It's not the fact that it can happen that's the surprise for me, just how quickly the LCD pixels can be cooked.

Bob
 
And, apparently, how easily it'll see the sun and focus it onto the LCD.
 
I tried focussing it on my hand and it takes a fair while before it gets painful but LCD's are obviously damaged quite quickly by the heat.


Hands are not as easy as an LCD screen to repair :lol:
 
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