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So me and the Girlfriend bit the bullet and booked our holiday the other night, Egypt! :D I've been abroad once to the states and that was in 2005 with my ex and her parents.
so, getting all excited for a trip 8 months away, I want to do all the research over the next few months and save cash for items I might need so there will be other threads but this is the make one.
I'll either be hiring a lens, or buying one (currently using the kit lens off my 500D). I'm looking at hiring either Canon's 15-85 3.5 -5.6 is or the 17-55 2.8 is. Or buying a Tamron 17-50 2.8.

so my question is...what would you guys suggest? My main concerns is for the dark bazzar's where I may want to take photos. which is why I was considering something with a large aperture. But I'd like to hear some suggestions before I commit to an idea, and any other suggestions anyone has?

Going with me will most likely just be my 500D and 70-200 f4 L and if I can find a light-ish tripod that will do 2 weeks, one of them.

John
 
John,

I've been egypt a couple of times. You'll actually be fine with the Kit lens but the 500D is only good up to ISO3200 when well exposed so you may want to buy a tamron 17-50 f2.8 for evening shots in Nnama bay etc.

Word of advice: Egypt is great until you come in to contact with the egyptians! They are so bad at just letting you look around. Be prepared to get frustrated with "come in, take a look, good price!!" ...I counted the average amount of times they ask you to come and look at their stock is around 9 lol

Anyway, inside the resorts are always very good. Amazing standard of service and as soon as you hit the red see it's worth going.

My advice: don't think about a new lens for your existing kit, think about something that can go underwater - you'll want / need it!

A few from my trips:

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Underwater video

#4, 5 & 6 were taken on this camera so I think your 500D won't have ANY problems :)
 
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Can't be any worse than New Yorkers, looking for tips for anything they do, whether you ask them to or not. Open a door for you while you're carrying some bags in ... stand there waiting for tips. The Bell boys see you trying to hail a cab "I'll do that for you Sir" - expects a tip for raising his hand when you were doing it already! :D

I have heard about trips to Egypt, friends of mine have been, and they do indeed say the locals are frisky.

I can say John, that the Tamron 17-50 is a cracker for the price. It was my most lens over my last 2 bodies [D200, D90] and only sold it on when going full frame as it was strictly a Dx lens. That with an 85 1.8 maybe?
 
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I'm off to Sharm on the 7th, and all I'm taking is a 18-55, 70-200L F4, for my 400d, so with us being in a similar position, when i get back, I will ensure to let you know of anything I felt I could of done with or was lacking :)
 
When you say Egypt which bit do you mean? Are you just going to the red sea or will you be taking in Cairo and the other ancient sites and cities?

Two very different places.
 
my suggestion is cancel and go somewhere else,the Egyptians really are a pain in the rear. Having said that +1 for the underwater case,something like this http://store.aquapac.net/explore-product-range/waterproof-camera-cases.html

we went snorkeling at a place called shark bay its easy to get in the sea theres a beach unlike most places where you have to jump in off a jetty.
It might be worth taking a small light tripod and going on the stargazing trip into the sinai desert the highlight of our trip.

non camera advice

You WILL get the trots and the locals will recommend something called Antinal be very careful its a broad spectrum antibiotic and kills all the bacteria in your bowel,good and bad,we went in September and are still not back to normal in the toilet department yet.My other half went to see her doctor about it and he said it could take up to 6 months to sort itself out.
I would also recommend some antibacterial hand gel to carry around with you as I was told a lot of germs are passed around on the money.
speaking of money theres only 2 places in sharm where you can change travellers cheques your better of taking cash (preferably english and change it over there its a much better exchange rate) or using the cash machines over there.
 
I took my 30D with 28-105, it's my usual holiday kit these days.

Wouldn't bother with a tripod but take plenty corks for your bum!
 
I go to Egypt regularly on business.

You just need to be polite but firm. I went once with a colleague who couldn't say 'no' and it was a nightmare. We ended up getting fleeced several times.

Just say a polite but firm "No thanks." when they ask you to come look at the stuff then walk on. Some will respect it, others will chase after you and insult you, call you rude etc. They'll do anything to make you go into their shop.

Never go with a 'guide' off the street. Your hotel can sort you one out cheaply if you really want one. The car company I used supplied a translator who had a degree in archeology to take me around the museums for £20 the entire day. I ended up giving him a big tip cos the guy was utterly amazing.

As for lenses, I'd just take something cheap like a Tamron 17-55 f2.8 with you. It isn't the safest country to be lugging around expensive kit.
 
Cheers for all the replys and advise guys! really appreciate it all. Even the non photo related info. After some thought at work today, it'll probably be more cost effective to buy the tamron lens and invest in a small lightweight tripod (which I honestly don't plan on spending much money on, about £20/30) and a waterproof camera, or atleast a case for one to go in.

We're planing to visit Cairo for a day and a few other places, but we're still looking so nothing bar Cairo is set in stone.

As for medical issue's...I was pretty much aware we will definitely get some form of stomach illness and spend a fair bit on the throne. I've got ibs, so a trip to the doctors a few weeks before hand is already on the table.

Any more info is welcome and greatly appreciated. And anymore photos!

Cheers!
 
You don't have to have an upset stomach. make sure you don't eat anything uncooked like fruit and salad, and make sure that all cooked food has been freshly cooked, preferably within sight of yourself, and has not been left to stand. Avoid rice and ice.

As far as being pestered is concerned, don't make eye contact, don't answer, just keep moving. They rely on your good manners to reel you in! Oh, and they've all got cousins with shops you should visit and that are just round the corner. Taxi drivers always have an extra destination you shouldn't miss!

Egypt is an mazing place and, even if you don't have an underwater camera, just go snorkelling for an hour. You'll return after several hours it's so good...
 
You don't have to have an upset stomach. make sure you don't eat anything uncooked like fruit and salad, and make sure that all cooked food has been freshly cooked, preferably within sight of yourself, and has not been left to stand. Avoid rice and ice.

As far as being pestered is concerned, don't make eye contact, don't answer, just keep moving. They rely on your good manners to reel you in! Oh, and they've all got cousins with shops you should visit and that are just round the corner. Taxi drivers always have an extra destination you shouldn't miss!

Egypt is an mazing place and, even if you don't have an underwater camera, just go snorkelling for an hour. You'll return after several hours it's so good...

Regarding the stomach thing...

It's caused by bacteria and avoiding coming into contact with it is a lot more difficult than just avoiding certain foods. Touching money and then eating for example.

Trying to avoid it will just lead to a miserable holiday and you probably won't be successful anyway.

To be honest, I'd either;

1) expose yourself to the bacteria when you get there (intentionally drink tap water etc) and then once you're exposed will only last a couple of days until your immune system wins the fight.

2) take a broad spectrum antibiotic for the duration of your holiday such as amoxicillin. The likelyhood of you being able to teacher this option is not very high but in theory should provide protection.

Using any medication apart from antibiotics will be unsuccessful contrary to popular belief...

Best just go, enjoy your holiday and expect the *****s. It won't last for long and you'll feel ok after a couple of days.

If you expect it, it won't surprise you and will not ruin your holiday.

Oh and watch out for the Egyptian pharmacists...last time my girlfriend went to buy some paracetamol for a headache she was told to be put on a drip for being "severely dehydrated" ...I laughed and we left.

John, where are you staying???
 
I go to Egypt regularly on business.

You just need to be polite but firm. I went once with a colleague who couldn't say 'no' and it was a nightmare. We ended up getting fleeced several times.

Just say a polite but firm "No thanks." when they ask you to come look at the stuff then walk on. Some will respect it, others will chase after you and insult you, call you rude etc. They'll do anything to make you go into their shop.

Never go with a 'guide' off the street. Your hotel can sort you one out cheaply if you really want one. The car company I used supplied a translator who had a degree in archeology to take me around the museums for £20 the entire day. I ended up giving him a big tip cos the guy was utterly amazing.

As for lenses, I'd just take something cheap like a Tamron 17-55 f2.8 with you. It isn't the safest country to be lugging around expensive kit.

Going to put the cat amongst the pigeons as it were here... Tipping is bad... Egypt has a problem, the problem being a lot of the most skilled people leave their professions (be that teaching, medicine, sciences etc.) to become tour guides because they make FAR more money than most other industries. Part of that is due to tipping. It warps the society and means there are problems with getting good people into necessary jobs. Egypt is warped enough (tourist industry being more important than anything else, to the deficit of the average Egyptian) without making it even more warped by paying big tips.

Anyway, that's my feeling on it.
 
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Regarding the stomach thing...

It's caused by bacteria and avoiding coming into contact with it is a lot more difficult than just avoiding certain foods. Touching money and then eating for example.

I forgot the money. In general, it's filthy: dirty, grubby and soggy. Hand sanitiser and as little contact as possible are recommended!

Having just returned from nearly three weeks in India, which has a similar reputation for stomach upsets, the precautions I suggested, along with minimal contact with banknotes and regular use of hand sanitiser, prevented us from any stomach upsets at all.

I really don't recommend that anyone deliberately exposes themselves to the risk of a stomach bug. It might not be a relatively 'innocent' bug that you pick up and even the milder bugs leave you feeling very weak for days after. Not a good way to spend a holiday..
 
Going to put the cat amongst the pigeons as it were here... Tipping is bad... Egypt has a problem, the problem being a lot of the most skilled people leave their professions (be that teaching, medicine, sciences etc.) to become tour guides because they make FAR more money than most other industries. Part of that is due to tipping. It warps the society and means there are problems with getting good people into necessary jobs. Egypt is warped enough (tourist industry being more important than anything else, to the deficit of the average Egyptian) without making it even more warped by paying big tips.

Anyway, that's my feeling on it.

Blame the Americans. Tipping mad! Their bad habit creates expectations around the world.
 
So me and the Girlfriend bit the bullet and booked our holiday the other night, Egypt! :D I've been abroad once to the states and that was in 2005 with my ex and her parents.
so, getting all excited for a trip 8 months away, I want to do all the research over the next few months and save cash for items I might need so there will be other threads but this is the make one.
I'll either be hiring a lens, or buying one (currently using the kit lens off my 500D). I'm looking at hiring either Canon's 15-85 3.5 -5.6 is or the 17-55 2.8 is. Or buying a Tamron 17-50 2.8.

so my question is...what would you guys suggest? My main concerns is for the dark bazzar's where I may want to take photos. which is why I was considering something with a large aperture. But I'd like to hear some suggestions before I commit to an idea, and any other suggestions anyone has?

Going with me will most likely just be my 500D and 70-200 f4 L and if I can find a light-ish tripod that will do 2 weeks, one of them.

John

Egypt is a big place. Where exactly are you going or looking to photograph? I've lived and worked there for the last 4 years so could offer some hints but need more detail as to where you're heading.

Lots of contrasts from the flat open white and black deserts to the mountainous sinai, obviously the temples, inner city slums to the fake plastic bucket and spade resorts like sharm and hurghada (where you certainly wont find bazaars!).

To be honest, lens wise the 70-200 and kit lens will be ok. Ideally a wide angle zoom for some things might help as well.
The Tamron 17-50 f/2.8 is a really nice lens if you were thinking of buying one.
A tripod yes if you're staying in the desert taking night shots or similar but you aren't allowed to take them into the main antiquities sites without a more expense entry fee (usually 2-3 times the normal cost) and if you try to set it up in a town or city expect the local police to stop you and demand a "licence fee" (ie bribe) so just be a little cautious.
On that subject make sure you don't get any army or especially police in photos or you're likely to be arrested or "fined". If you see any troubles kicking off, get out of there, do NOT get the camera out as it WILL be smashed by the authorities.

The city bazaars yes are dark streets and bustly but to be honest not that photogenic - you can use flash if needed but most of the time you'll just get hassled and asked for money from anyone and everyone in the photo.

As others mentioned above, EVERYONE is out for money. People who will let you "look around" will want money. Security in tombs (no photography zones) will practically demand you take a picture and ask for money. ANYONE in or near the camera will (I) go "take picture, take picture" then (II) demand money for it. The worst for money demands are likely to be the police, they'll invent plenty and expect payment to "allow" things.
You need to be firm to the point of rude otherwise you'll get nowhere.`


If you give more detail of where you're going i can help a bit more - its a vast country of massively different types of terrain. If you're in sharm el shiite you're 9 hours from Cairo. If you're in Cairo you're 12 hours from Luxor and so on. You really do need a firim itinerary due to the size. There ARE overnight buses between the major centres and the ARE very cheap but obviously you lose a large chunk of the trip planning then. Since the revolution the security and corruption has got 10x worse than ever so some routes are now not open to foreigners to travel. HOWEVER, internal flights are cheap, plentiful and reliable. Its about £50 to fly from Cairo to Sharm for example and takes 45 mins. That compared to £10 but anywhere from 6hrs to 16 hours by bus depending what mood the checkpoints are in on the bus.

Some suggestions:- Cairo... Obviously the pyramids - get there EARLY. You do NOT need a guide although they'll try to claim you do. The citadel / mohammed ali mosque has some nice city and architecture views so it is worth going to. The Egyptian Museum is certainly worth a visit - no cameras are allowed inside BUT its also on Tahrir square so don't even consider going to it on a Friday as thats usually when they riot (pretty much weekly).
The standard bazaars i'd avoid like a plague - just constant hastle (and if you're a woman 100x worse along with groping), petty crime and tourist tat.


Some really nice places people tend to skip is the Sakarra pyramid site (the step pyramid) and museums there. Much quieter, only 20 mins south of the city and on a plateau overlooking the city. For the more adventurous again, try Dashur - the original first build pyramids only 10 mins south again and ive been quite literally the ONLY person there so had 3 pyramids to myself without another human in sight.

I'd spend 3-4 days in cairo and i'd get a private driver for the day (the UK embassy has lists). These will cost maybe £30 a day max but they'll take you where you want, wait for you, you wont need to fight for taxis with constant arguments and the convenience is really really worth it.

A bit further afield you have the Siwa oasis in the east - stunning but a good 14 hour drive from Cairo. A bit nearer is Faiyum Oasis which is lovely and an hour south of Cairo. Heading east you can do a 1 or 2 overnight trip through the Black desert (hundreds of small cone volcanos) and white desert (amazing rock formations).

Further south in the country you've got Luxor (Karnak temple is to me the most impressive complex ive seen anywhere on earth) along with valley of the kings (no cameras even allowed into the valley itself now!) and Hapetschut's temple. Right at the bottom of Egypt you have the Aswan dam and Abu Simbel but you're talking 1000 miles from Cairo.

Heading to Sinai you've got Sharm, Dahab and plastic tourist resorts, some lovely desert canyons (white, coloured and more) and Mount Sinai (amazing desert mountains especially for sunrise) although theres currently an FCO advisory about going to these.


The place is huge so you need to work out how long to spend, where and so on.


I wouldn't worry about the upset stomach thing - it really is overhyped in the main. I deal with literally a few thousand people per year going through and the number that get it is tiny. Mostly its caused by (i) over drinking alcohol (ii) dehydration or (iii) swimming pools.

The salads and food are fine (or as safe as anywhere else) - there IS no water mains so its all washed with bottled water anyway. Like anywhere else in the world including the UK, if it looks bad or smells bad don't eat it!
The doctors and pharmacists though as above WILL over-prescribe massively to get the most money they can out of you and insurance companies. A slight dehydration headache you can expect them to try to put you on a drip and so on. I've seen some trying to charge $100usd for a packet of penicillin (when by law in Egypt the price, 5LE so 50p or so is written on the packet in arabic numerals).

Ultimately i'd go with kit lens (or buy a 17-50) , 70-200 and maybe hire a 10-22 or similar wide angle. One thing for sure you'll need - a decent circular polariser filter. You're going to get blue skies most of the time and more than enough light to survive with a CPL at all times. The desert scenery is truly amazing there and the night sky view from the middle of nowhere you're almost blinded by the brightness of the stars. It really is a beautiful place.
 
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Blame the Americans. Tipping mad! Their bad habit creates expectations around the world.

Doesn't mean you have to follow that trend. It's not just Africa that is the problem, for example I'm looking at small group trips where the guide is a local (in places like Africa), when you multiply the daily tip recommendation by the number of days and number of people you're looking at a guide on very near the average UK wage... A tour guide, in Africa!:cuckoo: No wonder they all leave the important jobs..

On the other hand it does benefit us as the tourist, you're more likely to have someone smart, good and ready to look out for you because they don't "need" to fleece you of money because they get enough already, even if their employers don't pay them much/anything.
 
we'll be staying in Sharma el shiek. I wouldn't say where we're staying is a tourist resort, its slightly out of the way. I have said to the other half that I want to go to Cairo, and she's agreed to go if I take her snorkeling. Win win really ;). I am tempted to go to Luxor, its my 25th in April so I might ask for that trip for my birthday :P.
I've already said to myself, I'll be buying the lens in march once I get my bonus. I work for a rather big department store, and were up a hell of a lot on last year...so I expect it to be big. A circular polarizer will be getting bought, without doubt. possibly a few nd filters aswell. I've got a little velborn tripod, its not great, but it's light, I'm considering just taking that and dealing with it.maybe see if I can get a decent gorilla pod or something too.

As for stomach bugs, I will be avoiding to catch something. it won't ruin my holiday as compared to getting an illness would. I have bad Ibs, so if I catch something, it usually kicks in and makes it worse. If I get something, I'll deal with it obviously. But I'm not going to knowingly try and give myself an illness.

I'm really appreciating all the info about the country, its really really appreciated. I'm not nearly a fifth through my questions I have down.Info on the locations I want to visit ect. So I may start a new thread in the related section later if I need info.
 
Sharm is certainly not a "slightly out of the way" tourist resort - nowhere in the place is. Its huge, sprawling and just an endless line of hotels many miles long. Then you have na'ama bay which is chain bars, chain fast food, chain shops etc. Its basically blackpool only hotter.

If you do Cairo you can do organised trips but they're frantic and restricted (some use a bus so its endless), far better doing it yourself by booking flights and staying a night or two. Likewise you can "do" Luxor as a day trip from sharm with a flight. Lots of companies organise it and its not too bad a trip - they usually fly you out at 6am, you do Hapsechut's temple, valley of the kings then after lunch Karnak and Luxor temples flying back about 8.30pm. A long day but lots of content.

If you go snorkelling the best bet is to get a boat trip to Ras Mohammed - the reef there is less battered and certainly more to see. Its about a 45min boat trip from Travco jetty or an hour from Sharks Bay. Failing that, go 45 mins the other way on a boat to Tiran - decent snorkelling reef and if you're lucky sharks.
 
Best advice?

Don't worry about the locals, they're generally pretty cool if you know how to say no.

BUT...

Beware the Russians! and I thought British tourists were bad (as this thread ably demonstrates...).

Anyway, as for cameras. Don't worry about taking expensive kit, it's as safe as anywhere but I would probably recommend a do it all zoom lens. The light is such that you needn't worry about slow apertures and given all the sand you don't want to be changing lenses too often plus you'll probably be wanting to take pictures of Ospreys one minute and Pyramids the next so versatility is the key.
 
Wow... the different experiences people have!

We spent a few weeks in Egypt, never got ill, only minor hassle (and that was only in Cairo) and had a fantastic time. Put your Britishness to one side, say "No" (Not "No Thank you"), or actually "La shokran" which works even better.

If you're worried about getting ill - just go veggie for the trip. We've racked up 53 countries and never once had issues with food. Egypt (all of North Africa in fact) has excellent veggie food. If you don't want to go veggie. Only eat fish near the sea, and eat meat only at restaurants with local kids in.Though TBH, if you're near Sharm, there's such a strong tourist trade, the food is pretty safe.

One big thing - SAND! Be super careful changing lenses out in the open. Last third of our photos came back with sensor spots from changing lenses at the Pyramids in a light wind.
Also, UV filters on everything for the same reason.

Chris - "My suggestion is cancel and go somewhere else,the Egyptians really are a pain in the rear". Wow. Righting off an entire country? How many times have you been?
Egypt was one of our favourite places in the Middle East - the number of evenings spent smoking shisha, chatting to locals and losing convincingly at backgammon. They were all super-friendly, very honest and kind people.
 
The Egyptians in general are fine, much like most other countries populations. Unfortunately the only Egyptians most tourists meet are those that either serve (waiters etc.) you or want something from you. That skews the prospective, luckily the main resorts are a mixed blessing. People know how to treat tourists (i.e. not the same way they try and sell to locals) but also know the tourist tricks of the trade... Just say "no thank you" firmly and keep walking. There is always room to be polite, just don't stop for them.

Veggie isn't really going to help either, most bugs will come from food left out at buffets (all food, including salads just as much as meat) and a significant amount more from water/ice used to clean fill drinks, however the big resorts will use bottled water for these situations.

The problem with Egypt is that most of the best locations have become charactures of themselves... Egypt has become a tourist mecca, it's even changed in the last 7 years and the tourist locations are just aweful. But then I can't stand spending more time in retirement homes (all inclusive hotels) than I have to!

I've only ever got bugs 3 times on trips abroad, both times in Egypt and the third time in Tunisia... North Africa doesn't agree with me, even in the non touristy areas... :lol:
 
If I were you, I'd definitely push for the Luxor trip. The Valley of the Kings (and of the Queens) is a photographer's heaven. Just be prepared for a monster long day.
 
went on a Nile river trip last year and would strongly recommend a good UV filter. Watch out for pick pockets and don't take too money if shopping. One person on the cruise had £300 equivelant picked out of pocket, they are experts on it. Best wear a body money belt.

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If I were you, I'd definitely push for the Luxor trip. The Valley of the Kings (and of the Queens)

When was that? As far as im aware (including personal experience twice) cameras have been banned there since at least 2010 and nothing has changed.
Enforced to the point that people even had security pointing guns at them for using a mobile phone just in case it had a camera. This is in the valley itself not the tombs. Cameras have to be physically left at the gate.

Of course, plenty of touts INSIDE there selling fairly ****** quality picture postcards for laughable sums of money instead...
 
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Cameras are banned in many sites you can do stills of the Aswan Dam but not video. There are plenty of signs in English telling not to take photos so no real problem there. Did valley of the kings but told valley of the queens wasn't worth it and taken to the artists tombs instead who did the paintings in the valley of the kings tombs. Well worth a visit to the artist tombs. Did the Nubian Village- Memphis -Abu Simble- Great pyramids at Giza- most of the temples along the Nile- Luxor Walked down the main shopping street,saw the broken obelisk .Went on one of those boats with the big sail (sorry forgotten what they are called). Also did Cairo museum while there. Plus a lot more.

Have to say it was an amazing trip with the tour company we used, stayed at the Mercure le Sphinx hotel in Giza overlooking the pyramids(before flying down to Luxor to catch the boat) and what a beautiful hotel one I would definately recommend.

Forgot to mention the lens I used almost exclusively was my Nikon 24-120mm which was adaquate for there in my opinion

Would I do that trip again? like a shot try stopping me. Have to agree with Richard, only take photos where allowed, there are 3 types of police there, military -civic and tourist. It the tourist ones that mingle with the crowds, we saw someone trying to use a camera phone and they were quickly grabbed and marched away, don't know what happened afterwards, but just be aware - photo where permitted -and you are ok


Nubian Village main street not far from the Aswan Dam

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Temple of queen Hatshepsut

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Possibly so as I only took that lens and a 50mm so I didn't come across that problem. Like any "tourist" places in the world, as long as you go by their rules you are ok. We didn't have any problems in China -Brazil -USA or any of the med cruise countries

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I managed to take 1266 photos in 10 days while in Egypt not including videos, Would love to post them all but!!!!!!!

every minute the river view changes so you constantly have a camera up to the eyes


3 men in a boat (egyptian style)










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only take photos where allowed, there are 3 types of police there, military -civic and tourist. It the tourist ones that mingle with the crowds, we saw someone trying to use a camera phone and they were quickly grabbed and marched away, don't know what happened afterwards, but just be aware - photo where permitted -and you are ok

Not always, even if you think something is OK, if someone says no, DONT. Plain clothes goons wander as said above and generally the higher ranking you are in the police the more jeans and t-shirts you wear.
Really don't try to pull any "photographers rights" stuff if told no - you WILL be arrested, your gear WILL be seized and destroyed and you personally might get a beating. It's not worth it. It's a 3rd world country with a huge and growing security and corruption problem - take that into consideration, use common sense and you'll likely be OK. Push things at all, you wont be.

Take care with any long lenses away from the usual tourist places - people have been arrested and accused of being israeli spies (its the common charge/excuse) for simply wandering in the wrong area too close to a police station (which they may have been unaware of).
 
When was that? As far as im aware (including personal experience twice) cameras have been banned there since at least 2010 and nothing has changed.
Enforced to the point that people even had security pointing guns at them for using a mobile phone just in case it had a camera. This is in the valley itself not the tombs. Cameras have to be physically left at the gate.

Of course, plenty of touts INSIDE there selling fairly ****** quality picture postcards for laughable sums of money instead...


Didn't know that. Went there a long time ago (c. 20 years). Oh well, it saves me pushing for another trip there.
 
As Richard has said, if you are aware of their rules then you should be ok.

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Thanks for all the reply guys, its taken a few days for me to look up and check certain do's and donts in areas of Egypt regarding photos.

But I've been contemplating putting extra cash by and maybe picking up a second hand 50D. That would be including a new lens also. All in all, I'm thinking I'll have a budget of around £500. Think its feasible?
 
gnirtS said:
The 50D is going to be no better than the 500D. It's not worth it.

Depends what you're shooting, it's not just sensors that maketh the camera!

It's the better camera so...
 
gnirtS said:
In terms of the photos it'll produce there is nothing the 50D will do that the 500D wont on this trip. Spend the money on decent glass.

Same could be said for any camera?

Glass is always the best option if you don't already have good lenses.
 
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Not always, even if you think something is OK, if someone says no, DONT. Plain clothes goons wander as said above and generally the higher ranking you are in the police the more jeans and t-shirts you wear.
Really don't try to pull any "photographers rights" stuff if told no - you WILL be arrested, your gear WILL be seized and destroyed and you personally might get a beating. It's not worth it. It's a 3rd world country with a huge and growing security and corruption problem - take that into consideration, use common sense and you'll likely be OK. Push things at all, you wont be.

Take care with any long lenses away from the usual tourist places - people have been arrested and accused of being israeli spies (its the common charge/excuse) for simply wandering in the wrong area too close to a police station (which they may have been unaware of).

Higher ranking police officers don't get their hands dirty by arresting photographers, lol!
 
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