low speed tripod shots

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Geof
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i did the family group on timer and tripod
i had the tripod centre column up to maximum..about 10 inches
the total height to the camera about 5 feet 6 inches...an ancient slik alloy leg model...fairly sturdy

with the speed at 1/3 i hoped the shot would be pin sharp...it was inside with fill flash
but it is a bit ..erm..unsharp

my camera has a 2 second mirror up function...the oly e-420... and i think i should have used this

anyone got any advice for my next shoot...christmas
cheers
Geof
 
Well at 1/3 of a second and using flash there's be quite a lot of ambient exposure to possibly cause blurring after the flash had died away.

You'd have been better off setting a proper flash sync speed unless of course you were trying to capture some of the ambient room light too. This is a problem with longer exposures as you do need to tell your subjects to keep as still as they can during the exposure.
 
is there anyway of posting the photo with exif data intact so that we can have a look at the settings?
 
Wow! 1/3 of a second is a long time. Was there a paricular reason for that rather then the normal synch speed?

People tend to move as soon as the flash has fired so unless you were using rear curtain then that'll likely account for some of the problem.

It also doesn't help to have the centre pillar extended - it's far less stable than the tripod itself and even slight vibrations on the floor get magnified and can be significant with such a long exposure time.
 
cheers chaps...
yes i was wanting to use ambient with slight and the flash for eyelighting
i didnt really want the full flash type of shot
my son and daughters have sworn me...after doing loads of ahhhh shots of their kids...
not to post them on the internet...which i respect...and perhaps should for strangers as well..??
but i have got the exif data for you to look at
the kids did move but we...and especially me sat rigid and still seems a bit softish in the detail

Make
OLYMPUS IMAGING CORP.
Model
E-420
Aperture
11
Exposure Time
0.3
Lens ID
Olympus Zuiko Digital 17.5-45mm F3.5-5.6
Focal Length
17.0 mm
Flash
On, Fired
File Size
3.3 MB
File Type
JPEG
MIME Type
image/jpeg
Image Width
2736
Image Height
3648
Encoding Process
Baseline DCT, Huffman coding
Bits Per Sample
8
Color Components
3
X Resolution
400
Y Resolution
400
Software
OLYMPUS Master 2.30W
YCbCr Sub Sampling
YCbCr4:2:2 (2 1)
YCbCr Positioning
Co-sited
Exposure Program
Manual
Date and Time (Original)
2011:10:27 16:44:13
Max Aperture Value
3.5
Metering Mode
Spot
Light Source
Unknown
Color Space
sRGB
Custom Rendered
Custom
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Manual
White Balance
Auto
Digital Zoom Ratio
1
Scene Capture Type
Standard
Gain Control
None
Contrast
Normal
Saturation
Normal
Sharpness
Normal
F Number
11
Exposure Compensation
N/A
Focus Mode
Single AF; S-AF, AF sensor
Flash Mode
On, Fill-in
ISO
100
Compression
JPEG (old-style)
Orientation
Horizontal (normal)
 
as a caveat .. i do think all my settings and tripod...even though on a concrete floor with tiles over was asking for trouble...
i could have used a higher iso...which is not me!
and perhaps a smaller aperture for the distance and lens setting...35mm/35mm
i am really ****ed off since all my family see my other shots and thought this one would be fairly good
its ok at 5x7...but as i look at the image more closely i can see the poor parts
cheers
Geof
 
If you had used ISO 400, you could have used a faster shutter speed of 1/12th sec,
If you had used f/5.6 instead of f/11 along with ISO 800 you could have used a shutter speed of 1/50th (which is what I probably would have done).
 
I'd say you have a combination of things

1. Subject movement. 1/3 is quite a long time to be totally still.
2. Slight camera movement from the shutter slap - 1/3 second is right in the range where that will make a different.

I'd be tempted to up the ISO to 400, up the power of the flash a bit and get your shutter speed to at least 1/30th
 
RichardtheSane said:
I'd say you have a combination of things

1. Subject movement. 1/3 is quite a long time to be totally still.
2. Slight camera movement from the shutter slap - 1/3 second is right in the range where that will make a different.

I'd be tempted to up the ISO to 400, up the power of the flash a bit and get your shutter speed to at least 1/30th
Click to expand...

:thumbs:
i hear you all
till next time
 
Graham00 said:
You can get a sharp shot handheld using 1/40th with flash. even in near darkness.
Click to expand...

yes using the strobe speed of around 1/10,000 of a second iirc
then the ambient sources are minoritised

i was arse for tit and trying an ambient speed of 1/3 with flash purely for fill and catchlights in the eyes...

i have learned my lesson now and discovered the mirror up feature on my menu and set it for all tripod shots

cheers
Geof
 
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