Apple's response has mainly been to ignore those issues until either it's too public to ignore or they lose a class action lawsuit
Sometimes they can be really good from things others have reported, but apart from when they actually made the sale, my experience has not been particularly positive.
I have two relatively local Apple Stores, and whenever I visit them (usually at the weekend) they are rammed. My lad worked in the Bristol store for a while, he said that 90% of the faults that people report are "user error", but he also said they hated an IOS update, as that always generated more enquiries/complaints.
It's slightly self-fufilling. Many (not all by any means) who choose a Mac do so because it 'just works' and they have minimal understanding of computer systems. Change how something works (and some apple changes have been every bit as obtuse as if the originated in Redmond) and they're lost because things don't work as they did before. Just like I noted in the Toxic forum thread, the democratisation of computers and the internet means that everyone now expects to be able to use them, and a bit of operator failure goes with the territory.
Most people that I know who use a Mac do so because, after 5 years and a number of OS upgrades, it still works perfectly, unlike all of my Windows based machines that, after about 3 years, almost grind to a haunt. I will admit that my first generation iPad mini is pretty useless now though, most of the apps are too big, but it’s still good for email and browsing.
I think it’s the usual crap about looking good in Starbucks that gets on people’s nerves. Not from you I might add.
Anything that came with W7 should still be quite usable with software of a comparable age.
You may find that your anecdotes aren’t as good as others’.But that's my point, a 5 year old Windows machine with an up to date version of office runs like an old dog. How come virtually all my old Windows machines ended up with either HDD or PSU failures, when I've never had anything like that on my Macs? In fact, my son still uses my old iMac (about 10 years old) for his music production.
But that's my point, a 5 year old Windows machine with an up to date version of office runs like an old dog.
Anything that came with W7 should still be quite usable with software of a comparable age
You may find that your anecdotes aren’t as good as others’.
But that's my point, a 5 year old Windows machine with an up to date version of office runs like an old dog. How come virtually all my old Windows machines ended up with either HDD or PSU failures, when I've never had anything like that on my Macs? In fact, my son still uses my old iMac (about 10 years old) for his music production.
Unfortunately, if you build a Mac thread, they will come.Sometimes the subject of a topic and the very first sentence can be a good clue as to the sort of info the OP is after!
And as with all good conversations the content drifts to other things, or of course we could have a forum of answers consisting of yes, no and one comment answers.Sometimes the subject of a topic and the very first sentence can be a good clue as to the sort of info the OP is after!
I am currently considering selling my iMac and buying the new Mac-mini and an EIZO 27" monitor. Such a combo should last me another 8+ years and be better value than a new iMac. I don't do video or play games and so the Mac-mini will suffice and it has a wide range of spec options from Apple. Apple are rumoured to be bringing out a stand alone monitor like they used to but I doubt it will be as good as an EIZO.
“They” assuming you mean people who use a PC? The debate regarding pc vs Mac pretty much always revolves around on thing and that is which is best, well in terms of looks it’s Mac, in terms of performance per pound spent it’s PC, in terms of upgrade ability it’s PC, in terms of OS, both have issues, if your using a mixed networked environment then windows wins, hardware failure they are both the same, but try installing a HDD in an iMac, or a screen fail on an iMac and it’s goodbye entire machine.Unfortunately, if you build a Mac thread, they will come.
Can happen with PC threads too, but not as much.
A fully spec’d mini comes in at £3800 plus a monitor which for a machine with a integrated graphics card is simply bonkers.So am I. fully spec'd the Mac Mini and it came in at £2600 with all the extra RAM and 6 core etc. It's either that or an all singing all dancing dell in a larger more traditional case which aids cooling (plus for the same money a dual processer). My worry with the Mac Mini is cooling, or the lack of it and thus its longevity. Some more computery sorts on here might be able to address that point more factually than I can.
A fully spec’d mini comes in at £3800 plus a monitor which for a machine with a integrated graphics card is simply bonkers.
And as with all good conversations the content drifts to other things, or of course we could have a forum of answers consisting of yes, no and one comment answers.
“They” assuming you mean people who use a PC? The debate regarding pc vs Mac pretty much always revolves around on thing and that is which is best, well in terms of looks it’s Mac, in terms of performance per pound spent it’s PC, in terms of upgrade ability it’s PC, in terms of OS, both have issues, if your using a mixed networked environment then windows wins, hardware failure they are both the same, but try installing a HDD in an iMac, or a screen fail on an iMac and it’s goodbye entire machine.
We use both commercially and as a business we have seen both sides of the argument, the iMacs have sort of stood the the test of time, the oldest being about 7 years old, but only because we have moved them from their post production roles to say being just a tethered computer, But then again we have a 5 year old XP’s that’s still used in post production. I use iPads and iPhone, so have nothing against apples product, I just feel after using both commercially PC’s are a better option for us.
Your must be mad we will never go near a mac again
A fully spec’d mini comes in at £3800 plus a monitor which for a machine with a integrated graphics card is simply bonkers.
“They” assuming you mean people who use a PC? The debate regarding pc vs Mac pretty much always revolves around on thing and that is which is best, well in terms of looks it’s Mac, in terms of performance per pound spent it’s PC, in terms of upgrade ability it’s PC, in terms of OS, both have issues, if your using a mixed networked environment then windows wins, hardware failure they are both the same, but try installing a HDD in an iMac, or a screen fail on an iMac and it’s goodbye entire machine.
We use both commercially and as a business we have seen both sides of the argument, the iMacs have sort of stood the the test of time, the oldest being about 7 years old, but only because we have moved them from their post production roles to say being just a tethered computer, But then again we have a 5 year old XP’s that’s still used in post production. I use iPads and iPhone, so have nothing against apples product, I just feel after using both commercially PC’s are a better option for us.