Male & Female Spider ID Required Please

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Can't ID these two I think the smaller redish spider is the male and the large one on the rhs the female. I came to this conclusion only by their actions, the smaller spider seemed to be trying to mate the female along with a few other males. Found in a dried out river bed in reeds.
I do have much better images of both however they are not together, but can post if required.
Thanks
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These are a male and female Garden Orb web spiders (Araneus diadamatus). The male is trying to mate, but quite often the bigger female will kill and eat him.

A few years ago I got a squence of a female killing and eating a male trying to mate with her.

Thanks Mike,
That makes sense there were a few males around, who said it isn't a tough life being a man!

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