Memory card longevity and how to keep them healthy

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Info only - do with it what you will. This is culled from a hand-out that we issued a while back after experiencing some card-write problems.

Memory cards rely on an implantation process which forces the electrons into an insulating layer within the chip itself. They get trapped there.
Because of that process of implantation, earlier memory cards had a very limited lifetime. Current ones are a lot better and reliability has increased to about a million write cycles.

A single write cycle is not merely the action of writing a single image to the card. The cards write a single block at a time; this may total a couple of kilobytes each.

Even if the computer is not interfering with the data on the card it still continuously accesses the card. This action is similar to a write cycle. The longevity of your card is directly affected and can be decreased quite significantly.

A lot of photographers i know plug their card into the computer and read the image directly from the card. If you think about how many millions of times the computer will be accessing the card just to read parts of the picture, by reading and reading and rewriting — even small changes — you run the risk of reducing that card’s life expectancy by half just by reading a single picture.

Some helpful tips on extending the life of your card:

The best approach is to load your memory card, copy the images on it directly to your hard drive. Then take the card out.

Keep the card in the computer no longer than necessary. Do the image downloading from the card, then extract it. Left in the computer it will continuously access the directory, checking the byte order, to see if there are any changes etc. This action is identical to a write cycle so the life of your card is reduced. Don’t work on the image while it’s still on the card. You could easily knock out half of the life expectancy of the card just by doing that with a single image.

Top Tip: Load your card, copy the images from it directly to your hard drive. Then take the card out.

Deleting accidentally.

If the image is deleted, have they really gone?
In many cases, commercially available software will retrieve images that have not been overwritten already, but sometimes even this won't bring them back.
Remember that a card is a removable device as far as the computer and camera are concerned. It behaves in the same way as a small hard drive.

The card has an area called the directory. That area is very important as it keeps track of the files on the disc and on which sectors they’re written.
While that information may be missing, the rest of the data is still there but can’t be retrieved. Damage the directory and the card is useless — but you can’t access it in a meaningful way… the files are no longer complete entities.

The directory is ultra important. Many of the problems people encounter are caused by a damaged directory: it may have been overwritten or there’s a hardware problem with the card… some sectors cannot be read.

More tips to keep your memory card healthy:

After a shooting session, download the pictures, then reformat the card in the camera. The camera then writes a clean directory, dispensing with leftover and unrelated entries. Reformat the card frequently.

If you have accidentally erased the card in the camera, the pictures may still be recoverable. It’s only when a camera has performed a ‘long erase’ that you may be unable to recover the images.

Tips For Healthy Memory Cards

It helps to follow these tips to maintain a card’s health and preserve your precious images.

Always reformat the card in your camera each time, after you have downloaded the images to your computer.

Deleting the images on your card while it is in your computer after downloading is not the same thing as reformatting the card in the camera.

Never load nor remove a card into/from the camera during the image transfer process.

Never force a card into a camera.

Always handle your memory card by its edges. Don’t touch the card’s contact points. Keep them away from dust and moisture. Don’t bend or twist it.

Always turn off the camera’s power before you load the card or withdraw it.

When using a card reader always move the icon of the card to the trash (Mac), use the safe-eject procedure (PC), then wait a few moment before removing the card from the reader.

Always keep your camera batteries fully charged. If power fails while data is being written to the card both card and data may be damaged.

Keep away from any high static charges, strong magnetic charges and extreme heart and cold — and be very careful when handling cards in dry, low humidity zones.

Before editing the images, always transfer them to the hard drive.
 
Thanks for that, very informative and usefull! :shrug:
 
Even if the computer is not interfering with the data on the card it still continuously accesses the card. This action is similar to a write cycle.

Wrong, wrong, wrong. Brimming over with wrongability. Total rubbish. 100% gen-u-wine shullbit.

A read cycle is not similar to a write cycle. It can have zero influence on the lifetime of a card.

And the whole idea of worrying about limited read/write cycles is pure, unadulterated FUD.

Suppose the card can handle 10,000 read/write cycles (100,000 is more likely). That means a 16 GB card can have 10,000 x 16 GB = 160 TB written to it. At 25 MB each that would be 6.4 million 7D raw files. That means you could shoot 100 images a day, every day for seven years before the card started thinking about the possibility of failure.
 
I merely pass on the information we were given by the people that did our data retrieval.
If you know better by all means educate us but be sure to list your qualifications at the same time - otherwise it's simply more 'opinion' veiled as fact.
 
Qualifications are meaningless. But if you want them -

MRSC, BSc (1st Class), Dip Chem, Cert Phys, Cert Nat Sci. There may be a few others I've forgotten.

But I recommend that anybody in any doubt do their own research. That way they'll find who's the one talking bullocks.
 
what is todays date?
 
But, Hollis - is he right about re-formatting the cards more often.

The Lexar cards I used in the D2X bodies I had were formatted once in their lives, when I first put them in the camera. I never formatted them again and they did hundreds, if not thousands of JOBS, not images, JOBS. I never had a problem with them by simply deleting the images en masse after downloading and then using the card again.

The D3 bodies I now use have 2 cards each, I rarely overflow to the 2nd card, so some of th ecards are getting well used, while the others are just sitting there "just in case". I do swap them around every now and then, just to share the workload about, but again, they have only been formatted once and those cameras were supplied the week the first container arrived. I had them before the D3 was officially launched at Focus, whichever year that was, so they have been formatted once in however long that is (I've lost track of time) It must be 3 years though because I am sure they are out of warranty now, and they came with a 3 year warranty

So, never mind who is talking digested grass, what is the best way to look after cards? I have never had a worry about them, because they have saved me the best part of £750 a month in film! Which leads me to ask, how do Calumet stay in business now?
 
hollis_f said:
Wrong, wrong, wrong. Brimming over with wrongability. Total rubbish. 100% gen-u-wine shullbit.

A read cycle is not similar to a write cycle. It can have zero influence on the lifetime of a card.

And the whole idea of worrying about limited read/write cycles is pure, unadulterated FUD.

Suppose the card can handle 10,000 read/write cycles (100,000 is more likely). That means a 16 GB card can have 10,000 x 16 GB = 160 TB written to it. At 25 MB each that would be 6.4 million 7D raw files. That means you could shoot 100 images a day, every day for seven years before the card started thinking about the possibility of failure.




But some of the info he posted is important. Like always reformat the card, that can fix a corrupted card and its happened to me. I always reformat in camera. Besides its just good practice to transfer to computer, make backups, then reformat the card. Theres nothing worse than being on a shoot and wondering if you have saved the images on the card you are about to write over.

The batteries dying is another, always replace camera battery before it dies completely. These things can happen, I was using a d300 with grip set to use camera battery first, when grip battery went flat the camera locked up in err mode. When put new battery in card was corrupted. I rescued the files when I got back but it just shows what can happen.

These might not seem like big issues to a lot of people but for sports shooters, weddings, news, any risk of data corruption is a very big deal.

Another problem with batteries is as they run down they can heat up more especially if you are driving it hard. Now I have heard on some cameras this extra heat can affect the sensor, increase noise etc. Because the battery is in close proximity to it. Now that one might be rubbish, but I would like to hear from anyone with more info on that.
 
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Wrong, wrong, wrong. Brimming over with wrongability. Total rubbish. 100% gen-u-wine shullbit.

A read cycle is not similar to a write cycle. It can have zero influence on the lifetime of a card.

And the whole idea of worrying about limited read/write cycles is pure, unadulterated FUD.

Suppose the card can handle 10,000 read/write cycles (100,000 is more likely). That means a 16 GB card can have 10,000 x 16 GB = 160 TB written to it. At 25 MB each that would be 6.4 million 7D raw files. That means you could shoot 100 images a day, every day for seven years before the card started thinking about the possibility of failure.

This is absolutely correct - then there is the wear levelling algorithm to factor in... :)
 
Why is it necessary to be so rude and aggressive?

Ok, maybe the OP is wrong, but why not point out statements that you disagree with and rectify the post?

That's what is wrong with fora. Rudeness, aggressiveness and the lack of politeness.
 
All interesting stuff but excuse my lack of knowledge, what would i need for the USB port to read just my CF card ? plugable card reader ?
thanks.
 
Yep, a usb card reader. Have a look on 7dayshop.com
 
Why is it necessary to be so rude and aggressive?

Ok, maybe the OP is wrong, but why not point out statements that you disagree with and rectify the post?

That's what is wrong with fora. Rudeness, aggressiveness and the lack of politeness.

I see no rudeness or agressiveness in any of the above replies. :shrug:

Perhaps you need a cuddle? :hug2:
 
Ok, maybe the OP is wrong, but why not point out statements that you disagree with and rectify the post?

Because there was so much that was wrong and I didn't have the time to go through it line-by-line correcting it.

That's what is wrong with fora. Rudeness, aggressiveness and the lack of politeness.

In your opinion. In my opinion one of the main faults is that there are too many people giving totally false information - either because of mindless repetition of 'facts' they've read on the interwebs or because they've misunderstood something.

Anyway, here's that point-by-point analysis.


Info only - do with it what you will. This is culled from a hand-out that we issued a while back after experiencing some card-write problems.
This is a hand-out? I pity the people who had it handed to them.
Memory cards rely on an implantation process which forces the electrons into an insulating layer within the chip itself. They get trapped there.
Because of that process of implantation, earlier memory cards had a very limited lifetime. Current ones are a lot better and reliability has increased to about a million write cycles.
Actually, it's the other way round. In the past SLC chips would be used in high-end cards. These do have 1,000,000 program/erase cycle lifetimes. Newer cards all use MLC which has a limit of around 100,000. It is highly possible that smaller architectures will result in a smaller P/E limit.
A single write cycle is not merely the action of writing a single image to the card. The cards write a single block at a time; this may total a couple of kilobytes each.

Even if the computer is not interfering with the data on the card it still continuously accesses the card. This action is similar to a write cycle. The longevity of your card is directly affected and can be decreased quite significantly.
As already pointed out, reading from the card is nothing like writing to the card and has zero effect on its lifetime.
A lot of photographers i know plug their card into the computer and read the image directly from the card. If you think about how many millions of times the computer will be accessing the card just to read parts of the picture, by reading and reading and rewriting — even small changes — you run the risk of reducing that card’s life expectancy by half just by reading a single picture.
No you don't. This is pure and utter garbage. It is also likely to cause undue worry in people that read it. We already have loads of people who think that a jpeg's quality drops every time they open it. Now people are going to think that chimping will cause their cards to die.
Some helpful tips on extending the life of your card:

The best approach is to load your memory card, copy the images on it directly to your hard drive. Then take the card out.
Woot! Something correct. Even if it is for the wrong reason. Ideally you always want your images in two places. By copying to the hard drive you've achieved that. Once you've made a backup of those images you can clear them from the card.
Keep the card in the computer no longer than necessary. Do the image downloading from the card, then extract it. Left in the computer it will continuously access the directory, checking the byte order, to see if there are any changes etc. This action is identical to a write cycle so the life of your card is reduced. Don’t work on the image while it’s still on the card. You could easily knock out half of the life expectancy of the card just by doing that with a single image.
Same rubbish as before. Totally wrong.
Top Tip: Load your card, copy the images from it directly to your hard drive. Then take the card out.

Deleting accidentally.

If the image is deleted, have they really gone?
In many cases, commercially available software will retrieve images that have not been overwritten already, but sometimes even this won't bring them back.
Remember that a card is a removable device as far as the computer and camera are concerned. It behaves in the same way as a small hard drive.

The card has an area called the directory. That area is very important as it keeps track of the files on the disc and on which sectors they’re written.
While that information may be missing, the rest of the data is still there but can’t be retrieved. Damage the directory and the card is useless — but you can’t access it in a meaningful way… the files are no longer complete entities.

The directory is ultra important. Many of the problems people encounter are caused by a damaged directory: it may have been overwritten or there’s a hardware problem with the card… some sectors cannot be read.

More tips to keep your memory card healthy:

After a shooting session, download the pictures, then reformat the card in the camera. The camera then writes a clean directory, dispensing with leftover and unrelated entries. Reformat the card frequently.

If you have accidentally erased the card in the camera, the pictures may still be recoverable. It’s only when a camera has performed a ‘long erase’ that you may be unable to recover the images.
What a load of contradictory stuff here. It says - if the card's directory (I presume they mean FAT - File Allocation Table) is damaged then the files are gone, and that an in-camera format will destroy the old FAT. But image recovery software can easily get stuff from a formatted card.
Tips For Healthy Memory Cards

It helps to follow these tips to maintain a card’s health and preserve your precious images.

Always reformat the card in your camera each time, after you have downloaded the images to your computer.

Deleting the images on your card while it is in your computer after downloading is not the same thing as reformatting the card in the camera.

Never load nor remove a card into/from the camera during the image transfer process.

Never force a card into a camera.

Always handle your memory card by its edges. Don’t touch the card’s contact points. Keep them away from dust and moisture. Don’t bend or twist it.
At last, some sensible points.
Always turn off the camera’s power before you load the card or withdraw it.
It makes no difference. Just make sure it's finished writing to the card.
When using a card reader always move the icon of the card to the trash (Mac), use the safe-eject procedure (PC), then wait a few moment before removing the card from the reader.
Dunno about Macs, but I've not used the 'Safely remove ...' thing in Windows for many years.
Always keep your camera batteries fully charged. If power fails while data is being written to the card both card and data may be damaged.

Keep away from any high static charges, strong magnetic charges and extreme heart and cold — and be very careful when handling cards in dry, low humidity zones.
Magnetic fields have zero effect on memory cards. I know because I've tested it. The lab I used to work in had a 600 MHz NMR spectrometer, with an incredibly powerful magnet (it could pull steel coins from my hand from a meter aaway). I tried rubbing a CF card against it and there was zero loss of data.
Before editing the images, always transfer them to the hard drive.

The worst misinformation was the claim that just viewing images on a card can shorten the card's lifetime. That is just plain wrong.
 
Why is it necessary to be so rude and aggressive?

Ok, maybe the OP is wrong, but why not point out statements that you disagree with and rectify the post?

That's what is wrong with fora. Rudeness, aggressiveness and the lack of politeness.

I blame all that time at uni interacting with students, rather than humans. :naughty:
 
I've never used cards in card readers. I always read them via the camera. Never had a problem with any cards that are generally formatted once in the camera and never formatted again.

Is there any difference in longevity in cards that are left in the camera to be read and then wiped or ones that are always taken out and read in a reader?
 
Drum-roll..ba-doom-tsh... April...F***

You lot are way too easy. Only one person spotted it for what it was?
C'mon...

Admirable, you get the 'notional' crate of beer, well done.
The rest of you - oh dear...

I thought that disguising the [PLEASE DON'T TRY TO BYPASS THE SWEAR FILTER] with some genuine 'factoids' might confuse one or two...maybe... but nearly all of you bought it by the look of things.

Hollis...mate, you need to get out more... it's only the internet.
 
Drum-roll..ba-doom-tsh... April...F***

You lot are way too easy. Only one person spotted it for what it was?
C'mon...

Admirable, you get the 'notional' crate of beer, well done.
The rest of you - oh dear...

I thought that disguising the [PLEASE DON'T TRY TO BYPASS THE SWEAR FILTER] with some genuine 'factoids' might confuse one or two...maybe... but nearly all of you bought it by the look of things.

Hollis...mate, you need to get out more... it's only the internet.


All April fools finish at 12 noon so you cheated;)
 
When using a card reader always move the icon of the card to the trash (Mac), use the safe-eject procedure (PC), then wait a few moment before removing the card from the reader.

That's actually a good practice. While it may be rare, you can end up with corruption. It's more important for HDDs though. I've had it happen before, but was able to repair the damage.

But it doesn't seem like a very good AF joke... I suppose A for effort though. :)
 
Drum-roll..ba-doom-tsh... April...F***

You lot are way too easy. Only one person spotted it for what it was?
C'mon...

Admirable, you get the 'notional' crate of beer, well done.
The rest of you - oh dear...

I thought that disguising the [PLEASE DON'T TRY TO BYPASS THE SWEAR FILTER] with some genuine 'factoids' might confuse one or two...maybe... but nearly all of you bought it by the look of things.

Hollis...mate, you need to get out more... it's only the internet.

I point the honorable gentleman to post #2. :razz:
 
Drum-roll..ba-doom-tsh... April...F***

You lot are way too easy. Only one person spotted it for what it was?
C'mon...

Admirable, you get the 'notional' crate of beer, well done.
The rest of you - oh dear...

I don't think you can really blame those of us who were 'fooled'. After all, your impersonation of a clueless imbecile was faultless.
 
What is, however, very strange, and quite unusual for an 'April' Fool, is that this rubbish was first put on the interwebs in May - May 2009.
 
I didn't say I was the first to post it, did I? It was sent to me via email on Friday morning. I just tidied it up and re-posted.

BTW Frank, Your impression of an unrelenting pedant was equally impressive...:thumbs:
 
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I find that if your having trouble with a card, a quick wash in the machine helps. To protect the exterior, put it in a trouser pocket as it goes through the full cycle. Clean sa as whistle afterwards ;)
 
I find that if your having trouble with a card, a quick wash in the machine helps. To protect the exterior, put it in a trouser pocket as it goes through the full cycle. Clean sa as whistle afterwards ;)

Done it more times than I'd care to admit...:bonk:
 
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