Thanks fir that Kev.Hi
I don't print at home, but prefer my i1display pro compared to the spyder3pro I had as it would not calibrated dual monitors correct.
I tried displaycal on my machine and could not get it to profile both correctly, must be a user error in my case.I use the Spyder Pro 5 but don't use their software. I could never get consistant colours with their software and could never match my two screens. the issues is that they only read a small number of colour swatches and calibration is quick.
DisplayCal is free and give a much better calibration but it does take a long time. I can get both of my screens identical (1 x 5k imac and 1 x 2k iMac) but calibration does take around 3 hours per screen but then again is reads 500-600 colour swatches
Luckily, I only do it every few months. Actually did one last night and the other will be done tonight.
I tried displaycal on my machine and could not get it to profile both correctly, must be a user error in my case.
Would be interested to see how you get on with this...?Thanks for the comments, I think I'll be going for the ColorMunki Display, I feel it's a good balance between cost and features.
http://www.wexphotographic.com/x-ri...duct=1526087&gclid=CIO0yaDQ39ICFQsR0wod1NMF1g
Will do, BTW your Flickr doesn't work, I was hoping to see some aircraft shotsWould be interested to see how you get on with this...?
After much deliberation I chose the ColorMunki Display and I'm very happy with it.Thanks for the comments, I think I'll be going for the ColorMunki Display, I feel it's a good balance between cost and features.
http://www.wexphotographic.com/x-ri...duct=1526087&gclid=CIO0yaDQ39ICFQsR0wod1NMF1g
Ok initial prints looking a bit darker than both the display and what I'd like to see.... blues look a bit dark ( clothing) in particular and blue skies are a little grey/ washed out ... but with the shots I'm using it was a little grey that day as I recall... so maybe the backlit display is affecting that but the print is close to what I actually got on the day... went into the iMac display settings and reduced the brightness and that gets a closer result exposure wise but still the blue/ grey issue.... might have a go at re calibration tomorrow....interested to hear how footman is getting on....!
Download DisplayCal. It's much more accurate that the 10 minute calibration offered by spyder software.
OK. Just had a look at DisplayCal. Says I need Argyll CMS because I have no hardware.Download DisplayCal. It's much more accurate that the 10 minute calibration offered by spyder software.
OK. Just had a look at DisplayCal. Says I need Argyll CMS because I have no hardware.
Argyll CMS offers me 10 downloads. How do I know which to choose for Windows7?
Presumably not the Allpe/Linux variants, but what are all the rest?
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OK. Just had a look at DisplayCal. Says I need Argyll CMS because I have no hardware.
Argyll CMS offers me 10 downloads. How do I know which to choose for Windows7?
Presumably not the Allpe/Linux variants, but what are all the rest?
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Thanks. Done that. Then I went to the installation instructions. What language is that? Sorry, but I don't understand geek speek. Ah well. Back to the drawing board.Click the Windows link - it takes you to a page to choose 32-bit or 64-bit versions.
Thanks. Done that. Then I went to the installation instructions. What language is that? Sorry, but I don't understand geek speek. Ah well. Back to the drawing board.
Thanks, but that's just as bad! There are words in there I've never seen beforeYes, it looks a bit fiddly, as it's all command-line setup. There are some graphic front-end options, like this one:
http://www.russellcottrell.com/photo/LittleArgyllGUI.asp
- it may help with setup, but I've not delved into it as yet!
Not sure about that.Don't worry about the comp!Icated command lines. Argyll CMS is the engine and displayCal is the GUI.
Once installed everything is done through the GUI
That's interesting, what are the others then?I find the ColorMonki the best it will calibrate you screen and printer, I have use others but find this to be the best, as it a colour spectrophotometer, unlike most of the others.
Not sure about that.
Downloaded Display cal, but the Calibrate & Profile button is greyed out. Trawled through the options and it suggested I had to install the Argyll stuff. I let it do all that for me, but it still won't un-grey the button.
Something seems to be missing in the setup.
Just downloaded and used DisplayCal, it took 1hr 20mins to go through the calibration sequence. Difficult to assess objectively but this profile looks the best to me. As I said I can't print until next week.
Edit: My wife has had a look at a recent photo of us taken by a friend that our daughter wants framed.
She prefers the image when viewed with the 2nd Spyder profile and not the new DisplayCal profile and frankly so do I........aaargh, this is starting to do my head in
Download DisplayCal. It's much more accurate that the 10 minute calibration offered by spyder software.
Can you tell me what you set up is? As in-
Do you use a spyder pro
Are you on an iMac
What's your printer
What's your opinion on the display view versus the print
Sorry to be a pain but it's a bit of a learning curve and tbh I thought the spyder software results would be better?
I use a Spyder Pro 5 with DisplayCal. displayCal gives me a better more consistent calibration and makes my two screens identical side by side. I could never achieve that with the Spyder software. The two screens where always slightly different and every time I ran a calibration I got a slightly different result.
I have 2 iMacs (1 x 5K as the mains computer and an older 2012 (non 5K) iMac which I use as the second display.
Printer is Epson SC-P600 used with Marrut ink, Marrut papers and Marrutt supplied paper profiles.
My prints are pretty much spot on. You must remember to look at your print in the right light. Screens are backlit and your image will always appear brighter on screen. Soft proofing can help with this.
What you have to remember is that just because you calibrate your screen does not automatically mean that your prints will be perfect. Screen calibration is just the first step. Certainly with more expensive printers such as the Epson SC-P600/800 and the Canon 10/100 etc come with print profiles specifically for their inks and certain types of paper. I buy my inks and paper from Marrutt and they supply a standard set of profiles which can be installed and these appear to work very well for me. They will also provide a free print profile service if you buy their products where you print a set of colour swatches and post it to them. The will profile the print and send you a corrected profile based on your print.
If you have a cheaper, consumer printer then it not going to have specific colour profiles and will be there or thereabouts which is good enough for the average user.
You can buy consumer print profilers but they are quite expensive and as with screen calibration they will scan a smaller number of colours to build your profile so not as accurate as the commercial profiles which will scan more colours to get a more accurate profile. This is similar to Spyder software and DisplayCal. Spyder only scans a small number of colours, whereas default settings n DisplayCal scan around 660 colours.
Thanks for the reply... and the detail... I'm on iMac with a pro 100 printer , canon paper and using canon profiles... tbh the results aren't that bad at all but dropped on a spyder pro at the photography show ...I'll give displaycal a go...! Appreciate the backlight issue!
Can I ask how you are using soft proofing with your set up... think I've only seen it under print options...?
I use soft proofing in the print module and just load up the paper profile for the paper I'll be printing to. I must admit that clicking the simulate paper option doesn't seem to work very well and the image on the screen shows a duller, less contrasty image to what is actually printed, but it gives me an idea of the brightness of the print.
It will be wrong if you have not calibrated your monitor to your computer, also a print is reflected light whereas a screen it emitted light. Most screen are too bright unless you have set it with your ambient light in the room.