Hi BrynI'm interested in looking for a monopod and Head suggestions for bird photography as I don't really get on with Tripods.
So;
- What setup do you use?
- How do you rate it?
- Things to look for?
- Things to avoid?
Thanks in advance
Bryn
Do yourself a huge favour and spend some time learning to hand hold properly, i have missed many a shot messing around with supports that never seem to be the right height.
I've still got all the gear but never use it and just use a blackrapid strap, of course that's just IMHO after lugging kit around for the last 10 years![]()
....I wholeheartedly agree about learning to handhold steadily but there are plenty times when you have spotted your wildlife subject and need to simply hold station for considerable time either in readiness for a behaviour or in anticipation of the subject moving into your preset position - That's when EVERY photographer needs support from either a monopod or a tripod even if you weight train several tons nearly every day (as a photographer mate of mine does).
....I wholeheartedly agree about learning to handhold steadily but there are plenty times when you have spotted your wildlife subject and need to simply hold station for considerable time either in readiness for a behaviour or in anticipation of the subject moving into your preset position - That's when EVERY photographer needs support from either a monopod or a tripod even if you weight train several tons nearly every day (as a photographer mate of mine does).

@Tintin124 Bryn, I can post pics tomorrow of what I describe in my Reply #13 if you want me to. I want to take some anyway because it may be helpful to people (and because I'm really pleased with what I have done). It's a relatively expensive solution but it works seriously well and is superfast. I have less excuses for missing the shots now!![]()
Do yourself a huge favour and spend some time learning to hand hold properly, i have missed many a shot messing around with supports that never seem to be the right height.
I've still got all the gear but never use it and just use a blackrapid strap, of course that's just IMHO after lugging kit around for the last 10 years![]()
What's the holding station for considerable time, not trying for the loch ness monster are we
I know plenty of women who had hold long lenses so i'm not sure where the weightlifter technique comes from and maybe it's just down to a lack of physical fitness.
Like i said my findings are after 10yrs using what some might call "MEGA HEAVY" kit.
This is something else I wondered, I think I'm pretty handy handheld but needs practice and maybe I'm thinking that the failure rate is unacceptable but would actually be reasonable in real terms. Also I like the idea of being able to lean etc.
....I don't know what your problem is with what I posted, Neil - I agreed with you that handholding (cameras!) was ideal but I also explained circumstances which you seem to be intolerant of. Your tone is spikey and seems to be implying that someone can't be a real man unless they can do what YOU prefer to do and don't use a monopod/tripod. I would even go as far as saying that your claims lack credibility. You need to be more tolerant of others and realise that your way is not the ONLY way.![]()


I've just started using a monopod & ball head when using my 400 2.8 & x 2 tele cos damm thats a lump....
The monopod is a 3LT Brian, very solid, robust, just not as slick as a Gitzo - although its brand new & only used for a morning so may get slicker....
I only handhold my 300 2.8 with a 1.4 tele - & thats fairly easy once you get the hang of it. - although may also be considered a lump....
Seeing as I have the right to express my opinion, here goes. If you don't want to listen/read it then that's fine as well.
I tried a monopod once. I hated it with a passion. Once I had extended it, it was a right royal pain in the backside. I didn't have a clue how to move with it (I was trying to follow the instructions by not putting it over my shoulder). I ended up walking around with a 6ft pole sticking out in front of me. Needless to say, I haven't tried again! I just went with hand holding after that. Admittedly, my camera and lens only weighed about 2.7kg at the time.
I'm probably going to end up with a heavier lens soon and will be carrying nearer 4kg. I imagine I will still shoot that hand held most of the time. There are times I use a tripod though and will be getting a new head for that. I've used my own "pop-up" hide once to wait for an Otter and having the camera on a tripod made that a lot easier. Also whilst waiting for Red Squirrel's when I was sat inside a holiday cottage it made sense just to put my camera on a tripod.
So, whilst I'm walking around I will handhold. When I'm sat stationary (and know in advance that I will be) I would try and use a tripod. Other times I just rest my lens foot on the nearest fence post etc. I may knock-up a beanbag to give my lens something more comfortable to lie on.
So, whilst I'm walking around I will handhold. When I'm sat stationary (and know in advance that I will be) I would try and use a tripod. Other times I just rest my lens foot on the nearest fence post etc. I may knock-up a beanbag to give my lens something more comfortable to lie on.
Can I ask a question with no intention of stirring the pot at all, but im really interested as someone who has never used a tripod or monopod for birds at all, so this is a question for those that only shoot birds using some form of support, how do you manage to get shots of birds flying high or overhead ? to my limited knowledge this must be very difficult, of course I could be and am probably wrong, but im genuinely interested.
My type of birding is usually walking the cliffs of West Cornwall, where birds can pop up an disappear again in seconds, so im always interested in trying to make life easier for myself.
Hi Neil @Neil B - I think we may have both over-reacted to each other's posts above and so I apologise for my part.
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Lol Great opinion... Can I ask what ball head and tripod you use? How do you find it etc.
....Instead of carrying a beanbag, I have the thick neoprene camouflage covers on only the lens hoods of my telephoto 300mm and 400mm prime lenses (now for sale). This allows me to rest the lens on a rock or rough post etc without any concern of scratching or similar damage.
If you use the sort of tripod which folds down short enough and is also lightweight enough (carbon is best), you can easily carry it in a bag slung across your back complete with a ballhead fitted. Currently my only tripod is a Manfrotto MT293C4 and the Manfrotto bag (an extra purchase) is big enough to actually carry my Gitzo monopod at the same time if I want to do so (not yet so far!). This tripod is stable enough for a Canon 100-400mm when needed but I would say nothing much heavier. It's perfect for low macro shots of insects etc which is primarily why I bought it.
A technique I have learnt recently is to bunch the extended tripod legs together to form a 'monopod' if I need any support. And then all I have to do is spread the legs if I want better support (said the bishop to the actress)![]()
....Capturing shots of birds in flight is usually easier and more successful when handheld with no 'pod to tie you down.
A camera lens with fast autofocus and a body with focus tracking capabilities also makes it easier - An L lens on a Canon 7D Mark II, for example.
Thank you for answering my question Robin, so basically your saying saying im better off to carrry on as I am, well that will save me a few quid so thanks for that.
I know you did not add the camera lens info only my benefit, but I have no idea what an L lens is or the capabilities of the Canon camera you mentioned as im a Nikon user with a D7100 plus a Nikon 500mm F4 ED VR, which I would have thought would have similar capabilities to the kit you mentioned.
I don't recommend the Acratech as a serious replacement to a Gimbal (or any other "side mount" option). I have the UniqBall and I can recommend it with a couple minor caveats (I put review on YouTube). I think the Markins' separate pan/tilt adjustments would be "better," but no leveling and more expensive. And as "a ballhead" I think the Markins would be better....I've been on the look out for ballheads that can be used as an alternative to a gimbal. Things like the Acratech ballheads, Uniqball, Markin's BV-Head etc. A proper gimbal would be too large and heavy for my needs.
I use a monopod w/wo a Sirui L-10. I have several monopods, a Gitzo 3551, and old aluminum Gitzo reporter, and a Mo-Go Pod. The Mo-go is the fastest to adjust, but longest at minimum height. The Reporter is the lightest and most compact of the bunch.
I don't want to be a jerk, but Robin just purchased his setup less than a month ago and probably doesn't have a lot of use on it... and almost certainly not a lot of comparative experience with other options. Here's the thread that lead to his decisions.
TBH, I don't see an issue with his choice of Gitzo and Acratech with the head used in gimbal orientation. It's essentially a pan tilt head when used like that. I just don't see the benefit of panning head function on a monopod. And I find a ballhead to be a PITA on a monopod. Basically, I think Robin's choice is functional for the needs, but a rather expensive way of getting there. (I have also used an Acratech GV-2 on a monopod)
I would definitely put a price/budget on the purchase... IMHO, you can get to the same level of durability/stability/usability at ~ $250 total as you can by spending $650. The *only* reason I own the Gitzo 3551 is because I stole it (bought used)...