My canon 450d has issues
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xSitara™;1433118 said:Oh well, i've figured it out now, basically my camera is ruined...
How come? What has led you to that conclusion?
When it's in auto (everything auto, the camera, the lens, everything), what does it do when you half press the button? Does it hunt around for the focus? Does it do nothing? Does it make any noise? What DOES it do?
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xSitara™;1433120 said:
See if you can borrow one and try it. Or take it to the shop you bought it from and see if you can try one of theirs.
Personally I think this sounds like a lens issue rather than a camera issue. Can you get the lens to focus in MF ok?
It does everything you say, it hunts around, lightly flashes as it does and makes a noise BUT i'm still afraid that I ruined it because before in MF I could get red dots now I don't.
I will go to currys, basically my view finder is not showing red dots AT ALL!
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xSitara™;1433137 said:
KISS - green box mode, full AF.
What happens when you try to focus and stop being so bloomin' vague!
Does the lens hunt for focus? Does the lens find focus quickly?
Do you get focus confirmation in your viewfinder (little green circle bottom right)?
Do you get any red lights?
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xSitara;1433149 said:
no :thumbsdown: the sensor and autofocus are different things
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xSitara™;1433149 said:
No it wont be the sensor, that has nothing to do with the focus points. If you damaged that you would just see a scratch or unusual image on the photo.
If you go to manually select the focus point, can you see the red dots illuminate when you change them through the viewfinder? It could be something wrong with the LEDs themselves.
By camera contacts I mean the metal 'pins' between the camera body and the lens.
Please don't speak to me like that.
I didn't say they were the same thing :/ I just said that when I was cleaning the inside of the camera, I must've messed something up!
I'm soo confused right now and people getting frustrated at me for not understanding very well aren't helping either
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I believe the OP had some issues finding which bit was the sensor, and spent a while cleaning the mirror by accident.... not sure if that could have damaged it or not though?
Chris
Edit: I just read this through, and it sounds like I'm making fun...I'm not, just letting people know what the cause of the problem could be. No offence meant
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Ok, get your manual out and look at the section which is titled "SELECTING THE AF POINT". Follow the instructions and you can change which focus point hte camera uses. You can switch though the points manually and the point will ight up telling you which one is selected.
Try that.
Try that.
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xSitara;1433166 said:Please don't speak to me like that.
I didn't say they were the same thing :/ I just said that when I was cleaning the inside of the camera, I must've messed something up!
I'm soo confused right now and people getting frustrated at me for not understanding very well aren't helping either
We are trying to help you but you are adamant it is broken and aren't being overly forthcoming in information.
Rather than worrying about a specific problem start from the beginning. Green box mode with autofocus. What happens?
Does the lens hunt or does it find focus quickly?
What noises happen? does the lens grind in anyway? Does the camera beep to confirm focus? (depending on your setting it may never have done this)
Does the camera confirm focus with a green circle in the viewfinder?
No darling, I cleaned the sensor not the mirror, i turned the mirror off.
Please go away.
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I think people should have a look at xSitara's thread from lastnight / this morning http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=124587 My guess is that when you tried to clean the sensor before mirror lock up you have somehow damaged the mirror and that will have caused the current problems.
Sorry I have no advice on a fix for this one.
Sorry I have no advice on a fix for this one.
Not from him, he's plain rude. If you have a problem then please you leave too.. I'll go and get it fixed somewhere else I have enough on my plate with this issue already instead of helping you're screwing at me.
It's ok i've decided to speak to Canon about it...
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xSitara;1433184 said:
Years working on a service desk taught me to start from the beginning and work logically up to the point where things no longer work.
I'm sorry if you felt that this wasn't a suitable way to progress.
Hope you get it fixed without too much hassle
No it's what you thought I did, I wasn't cleaning the mirror I know that the sensor is BEHIND the mirror at the far back of the camera.
Is that what happens to you when you get frustrated at slow customers? When someone starts saying 'don't be so bloody vague' it makes me want to give up and look for advice elsewhere.
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xSitara™;1433201 said:
O.K, I'm just going on what you said in the other thread. I think you're right in going to Canon about it, as it's incredibly hard to tell what's actually happening without having the camera physically here. Good luck with getting it sorted, I hope it goes o.k.
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xSitara™;1433184 said:
I'm screwing at you? Eh? I was just trying to help you to get to the bottom of your camera problem, and didnt realise I was 'screwing' with you, sorry.
Canon are the experts, but still, I'd take it to Currys first and try and get a replacement. Canon will see the sensor has been touched or damaged and that'll invalidate your warranty. Currys arnt so sharp, they may well replace it for you without even properly looking at it.
Thanks, no harm in just finding out from the specialists, I think i've already messed it up I don't want to cause anymore damage, I'm gonna go with what Jay said and not try and fix anything myself.
I'm sorry i'm just frustrated and that 'vague' dude isn't helping.
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Hope that its nothing too drastic for you
Me too.
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Not intending on being rude here, but if you only have one lens, how did the hair get onto the sensor?
I am not sure how quick Curry's are, but perhaps you should not mention that the sensor has been cleaned, just that the Focus Confirmation Points, (not just Auto-Focus points) are suddenly a lot dimmer than they were previously, and unusable because of this.
And not intending on being patronising here, but when I started to look into getting a DSLR, one of the nice chaps in the shops took me through a simple way of reducing the chance of getting dust and dirt into the camera, they didn't see what all the fuss was about, with these sensor vibrating things that are meant to shake off the dirt, their opinion was it shouldn't be getting in there.
When you eventually get another lens (I am assuming that you keep your 1 lens on the camera all the time here), try taking the lens of in the following manner. Obviously, turn your back to the wind first. With the camera at a good length on the strap around your kneck (for confidence!) point the lens down towards the ground. Take the lens going on (or the cap), and loosen it, so it comes off the lens cap with one hand. I take the lens on the camera in my right hand, and press the lens release with my left. Then, pick the new lens up with the left, remove the old lens with the right, and at the same time swap them over. Putting the old lens onto the cap should be childs-play, don't worry about screwing it in. Offer the new lens up to the camera, so there is very little time that the hole is open to the elements. Once you are comfortable that the old lens in your right hand is not going to fall over and roll away, take your right hand back to the camera, line up the lens without rushing, and rotate it into the slot. Once it has clicked into place, then you can sort out the old lens, but screwing the cap on.
That is how I do it, I suspect that some people might even advocate performing it in two stages, putting the full front-cap onto the camera, then off again.
I am not sure how quick Curry's are, but perhaps you should not mention that the sensor has been cleaned, just that the Focus Confirmation Points, (not just Auto-Focus points) are suddenly a lot dimmer than they were previously, and unusable because of this.
And not intending on being patronising here, but when I started to look into getting a DSLR, one of the nice chaps in the shops took me through a simple way of reducing the chance of getting dust and dirt into the camera, they didn't see what all the fuss was about, with these sensor vibrating things that are meant to shake off the dirt, their opinion was it shouldn't be getting in there.
When you eventually get another lens (I am assuming that you keep your 1 lens on the camera all the time here), try taking the lens of in the following manner. Obviously, turn your back to the wind first. With the camera at a good length on the strap around your kneck (for confidence!) point the lens down towards the ground. Take the lens going on (or the cap), and loosen it, so it comes off the lens cap with one hand. I take the lens on the camera in my right hand, and press the lens release with my left. Then, pick the new lens up with the left, remove the old lens with the right, and at the same time swap them over. Putting the old lens onto the cap should be childs-play, don't worry about screwing it in. Offer the new lens up to the camera, so there is very little time that the hole is open to the elements. Once you are comfortable that the old lens in your right hand is not going to fall over and roll away, take your right hand back to the camera, line up the lens without rushing, and rotate it into the slot. Once it has clicked into place, then you can sort out the old lens, but screwing the cap on.
That is how I do it, I suspect that some people might even advocate performing it in two stages, putting the full front-cap onto the camera, then off again.
I reverse my lens to take macro shots which means taking the lens off.
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if when you were having problems cleaning yesterday you cleaned the part shown in this picture thats why you are having issues as you have probably damaged the focus screen which is where the red focus point are.
if when you were having problems cleaning yesterday you cleaned the part shown in this picture thats why you are having issues as you have probably damaged the focus screen which is where the red focus point are.
I'm sorry which picture?
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xSitara;1436790 said:
The bit in the top half of the camera its shown with the circular bit in the centre in the photo.